The Zone 2 Podcast

Usually, we like to stay in Zone 2, but we love a good race recap too! Enjoy this episode, featuring our dear friend and 5x marathoner Anthony Wiryaman. Today we're recapping Francis's experience running the Copenhagen 5k, what it's like running/racing abroad, and highlights from Boston Amateur Athletics's international debut! We're also looking forward to our future goals and the rapidly approaching track season along with the every-changing world of running. All this and more in today's episode!

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For more race-day recaps, check out the following episodes:

48: Boston Marathon Recap

⁠⁠36: From Miles to Meaning with Adi Bandekar⁠⁠

⁠⁠35: There Once Was a Race on Nantucket with Ted Trozinski⁠⁠

⁠⁠29: It's Mobbin Time: Mob Mile Recap⁠⁠

⁠⁠17: Maple Syrup and Marathon Splits: with Zach Schrull⁠⁠

⁠⁠15: Break to BQ with Aidan Kindopp⁠

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🎧 Created, Written, Edited, and Produced by hosts: Francis Criscione & Brian Coven

🎙️ Guest: Anthony Wiryaman

Did you miss us? After taking the summer off from the pod, Francis and Brian are back to recap our summers over some homemade iced lattes.

The tall ships (and the Scots) came to Boston, Francis got some shirts with a bunch of holes in them, Brian ran a mile in scrubs, both of the guys had euro trips, and it's somehow September already! Stick around until the end as we look ahead to fall races, and stay tuned on instagram for new interviews, collabs, events, and merch??? Thanks for listening, and happy running!

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In this week's episode we sit down with New Balance Research Engineer, Ben Hazelwood, to discuss what goes into testing and evaluating some of the best shoes on the market. We reference a few different studies in this conversation and we've linked them here:

Papers on modeling marathon performances by Michael Joyner:
https://journals.physiology.org/doi/abs/10.1152/jappl.1991.70.2.683
https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/ejournals/abstract/10.1055/a-2539-1381
Paper about foot strike and response to super shoes:
https://www.ovid.com/jnls/acsm-msse/abstract/10.1249/mss.0000000000003411~the-influence-of-super-shoes-and-foot-strike-pattern-on
An abstract from Ben's master’s:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19424280.2025.2489682#d1e145

Getting Technical with Russell Wells

Carbon Plated and Elated: The Super Shoe Revolution

The "Truth" about racing with Sam Truax

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Check out more of our shoe specials here:

⁠Getting Technical with Russell Wells⁠

⁠Carbon Plated and Elated: The Super Shoe Revolution⁠

⁠The "Truth" about racing with Sam Truax⁠

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🎧 Created, Written, Edited, and Produced by hosts: Francis Criscione & Brian Coven

🎙️ Guest: Ben Hazelwood

The Boston Marathon is the oldest and arguably the most popular of the world major marathons. We had the amazing privilege to be involved with the Adidas activations in the city and meet some really cool people!

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For more race-day recaps, check out the following episodes:

⁠⁠36: From Miles to Meaning with Adi Bandekar⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠⁠35: There Once Was a Race on Nantucket with Ted Trozinski⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠⁠29: It's Mobbin Time: Mob Mile Recap⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠⁠17: Maple Syrup and Marathon Splits: with Zach Schrull⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠⁠15: Break to BQ with Aidan Kindopp⁠⁠

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This week, the Zone 2 crew sat down with South African record holder, 2x Olympian, and 5x NCAA champion Dom Scott! We discuss running origins, burnout, the transition from collegiate to professional running, motivation, shoes (or lack thereof) and robot runners! This episode has something for everyone (except clankers)!

As referenced, check out Cardiac Cowboys wherever you get your podcasts!

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Check out these interviews with some other professional athletes!

39: Elise Cranny

30: Marielle Hall

18: Meg Morgan

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🎧 Created, Written, Edited, and Produced by hosts: Francis Criscione & Brian Coven

🎙️ Guest: Dom Scott

What does it mean to run a major marathon in your home town? In this episode, we chat with three-time guest, Devin Miller, to discuss his approach to running the 2026 Boston Marathon and what being able to run it means to him.

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For more race-day recaps, check out the following episodes:

⁠36: From Miles to Meaning with Adi Bandekar⁠⁠

⁠⁠35: There Once Was a Race on Nantucket with Ted Trozinski⁠⁠

⁠⁠29: It's Mobbin Time: Mob Mile Recap⁠⁠

⁠⁠17: Maple Syrup and Marathon Splits: with Zach Schrull⁠⁠

⁠⁠15: Break to BQ with Aidan Kindopp⁠

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🎧 Created, Written, Edited, and Produced by hosts: Francis Criscione & Brian Coven

🎙️ Guest: Devin Miller

Enjoy this interview with runner, videographer, and cinematographer Pat Fogarty! In this interview Pat talks all things storytelling in the running space as we follow his journey from running cross-country in high-school and college to capturing the icons of the sport.

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Check out these other interviews to hear about more taste-makers in the running space!

22: Heartbreaker, Dream Maker with Chief Heartbreaker Dan Fitzgerald⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/episode/3DjRktS4AdzTLxrOq5UR0g?si=39de005b62784b4b⁠⁠ 

24: Sun’s Out, Tum’s Out with Not Yet Named Run Club Founder Alex Hermanson⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/episode/4HfWRgvL81UYNg0sEG4Xq8?si=6393709404a641e9⁠⁠ 

26: Building Strong Foundations with Brick Layers Union Founder Ben Weingart⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/episode/0WWDa5FZyMu7QNwJ2uUJOr?si=443b1c1c8e994213⁠⁠  

33: Capturing Momentum with Fidelis Teixeira

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ehohVxbJ47vSNh6KOgqyq?si=fb4526a77ee749a7

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🎧 Created, Written, Edited, and Produced by hosts: Francis Criscione & Brian Coven

🎙️ Guest: Pat Fogarty

Enjoy this interview with Dan Epstein, a miler turner marathoner who made his start in the running community at Heartbreak Hill Running Company, and now leads Endorphins Running Boston. In this interview, we talk about community, the importance of showing up, and Dan shares some tips and tricks for getting your runs in amidst a busy travel schedule. As always, we wrap things up with a discussion about footwear and a sneak peak ahead at what's coming up for Dan in 2026.

Want to run with Endorphins? Check them out at their website linked above, on instagram, and download their app!

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Check out one of our all time favorite interviews with Yü Wu, "The City Runner", who creates guides for runners to explore the cities they travel to:

28: Getting to Know Yu Wu

https://www.thecityrunner.com/

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🎙️ Guest: Dan Epstein

Enjoy this interview with Lead Product Line Manager for Performance Footwear at Puma, and OG Heartbreaker, Conor Cashin! In this interview Conor talks all things performance footwear as we follow his journey from running cross-country in the capital region to designing the next seismic shift in performance running shoes.

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Check out these other interviews!

8: Running the Show with Castle Island Track Club founder Nora Johnson⁠ https://open.spotify.com/episode/2R2jO9J6Voom4eiarKRM4R?si=f9a197a4550a4d0f⁠ 

16: This Episode is a Banger with Brighton Bangers founder Seth Wolfman:⁠ https://open.spotify.com/episode/1xRANt3hVd6WMjmF3fUV20?si=999cbc7e281a4ff1⁠ 

22: Heartbreaker, Dream Maker with Chief Heartbreaker Dan Fitzgerald⁠ https://open.spotify.com/episode/3DjRktS4AdzTLxrOq5UR0g?si=39de005b62784b4b⁠ 

24: Sun’s Out, Tum’s Out with Not Yet Named Run Club Founder Alex Hermanson⁠ https://open.spotify.com/episode/4HfWRgvL81UYNg0sEG4Xq8?si=6393709404a641e9⁠ 

26: Building Strong Foundations with Brick Layers Union Founder Ben Weingart⁠ https://open.spotify.com/episode/0WWDa5FZyMu7QNwJ2uUJOr?si=443b1c1c8e994213⁠  

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🎧 Created, Written, Edited, and Produced by hosts: Francis Criscione & Brian Coven

🎙️ Guest: Conor Cashin

Enjoy this interview with Leader of Gansett Run Club, Heartbreaker, founder of November Project Providence, Abbott 6-star finisher, and self-proclaimed out-of-shape runner Steven Blais! In this special interview, Steven shares his incredible story and talks about what it means to give back through running. Tune in and learn what helps set Gansett apart!

Run with Gansett every Wednesday at Narragansett Brewery in Providence at 6pm. Want to learn more? Check them out on instagram! https://www.instagram.com/gansettrunclub/ 

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Check out these other interviews with run club founders!

8: Running the Show with Castle Island Track Club founder Nora Johnson https://open.spotify.com/episode/2R2jO9J6Voom4eiarKRM4R?si=f9a197a4550a4d0f 

16: This Episode is a Banger with Brighton Bangers founder Seth Wolfman: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1xRANt3hVd6WMjmF3fUV20?si=999cbc7e281a4ff1 

22: Heartbreaker, Dream Maker with Chief Heartbreaker Dan Fitzgerald https://open.spotify.com/episode/3DjRktS4AdzTLxrOq5UR0g?si=39de005b62784b4b 

24: Sun’s Out, Tum’s Out with Not Yet Named Run Club Founder Alex Hermanson https://open.spotify.com/episode/4HfWRgvL81UYNg0sEG4Xq8?si=6393709404a641e9 

26: Building Strong Foundations with Brick Layers Union Founder Ben Weingart https://open.spotify.com/episode/0WWDa5FZyMu7QNwJ2uUJOr?si=443b1c1c8e994213  

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🎙️ Guest: Steven Blais