In this episode, we’re joined by Christian Watson, artist, creative director, and the designer behind the Pro-Child Politics book cover, to talk about the deeper meaning of art—what it says, what it lasts for, and what it’s pointing toward.Christian shares his journey from vintage-obsessed teen to sought-after designer, and why his work is rooted in truth and beauty, not trends. He calls on Christian creatives to break free from the cycle of copying secular culture and start making art that actually shapes culture—art that points to God by being excellent, honest, and beautiful.From the story behind the book cover to reflections on cathedrals built over centuries, this conversation is a rallying cry to believers: stop reacting, and start building. Because good art isn't just good for culture—it's good theology.Jenn and Christian also chat about why Christian's company chose the year 1942, and how he brought Katy's vision for the Pro-Child Politics book cover to fruition.See more from Christian:https://1924.us/https://www.instagram.com/1924us

Can caring for the environment and prioritizing kids go hand in hand? In this episode, Chris Barnard, president of the American Conservation Coalition, joins Jenn to challenge the mainstream narrative around environmentalism. Instead of pitting people against nature, Chris advocates for a balanced, conservationist approach that views humans, not as the problem, but as capable stewards of creation.They unpack how failed forest management has led to child-harming wildfires, why preservationist ideologies can be anti-human, and how pro-child policies must include responsible care for the earth. This is an episode that brings clarity, nuance, and hope to a conversation often filled with division and guilt.See more from Chris and the ACC at:

https://acc.eco/ https://x.com/chrisbarnarddl

From a director at Planned Parenthood to one of the most effective and well-known voices for LIFE, Dr. Abby Johnson wrote our chapter on the topic in

Pro-Child Politics: Why Every Cultural, Economic, and National Issue Is a Matter of Justice for Children.

See more from Abby at

https://abbyj.com/

https://x.com/AbbyJohnson

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwhoNHBWsizek-3cc0KlQRQ

And don't forget to pre-order your copy of #ProChildPolitics today!

What is really happening at the southern U.S. border and is it possible to consider even something like immigration from a children's rights perspective?

Our Pro-Child Politics author featured today is Lora Ries, the Director of the Border Security and Immigration Center at the Heritage Foundation. You'll finish this episode feeling much more informed at the children's rights violations happening at the border and some ideas for what can be done to make it right.

Follow Lora on X https://x.com/lora_ries

and read more of her work at

*Disclamer: We discuss mature themes in this podcast*

In this episode, Jon Schweppe from the American Principles Project joins us to shed light on his powerful chapter in Pro-Child Politics, fighting back against the porn industry. Jon exposes some big lies about pornography, the impact on minors and how we can fight back. Discover why the government has both the power and the duty to regulate this dangerous material and how we can safeguard our kids in the digital age.

Pre-Order Pro-Child Politics today!

In this episode, Jenn introduces the Them Before Us audience to TBU's Executive Director Josh Wood and they chat about TBU's new book, Pro-Child Politics, a compilation of authors presenting major political topics from the perspective of children's rights. Josh chats about the resource this book will be before the election and his contribution to the book, the conclusion.

Pre-order your copy today! https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Child-Politics-Cultural-Economic-National/dp/B0D6LT3ZB3

While the Nordic model for healthcare and education often gets high praise in the USA, Madeleine Wallin pulls back the curtain on some surprising downsides. Discover how Swedish mothers who prefer to care for their kids at home face societal pressures in a system that prioritizes institutional care. Jenn and Madeleine chat about her experience as a mother of five in Sweden, exploring how what the government prioritizes and promotes is impacting Swedish women and vulnerable children.

As a bonus, they foray accidentally into European geopolitics and learn Madeleine is going to spend time living in a house off the grid right by Russia.

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Madeleine Wallin is the Secretary General of FEFAF, European Federation of Parents and Carers at Home and on the Board and in International Relationships for the Swedish organization Haro.

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Other notes from things mentioned in the show:

Erika Komisar is a great resource in these conversations about daycare, raising children at home. Website

Madeleine is going to live in a house off the grid that used to belong to this extremely famous Finnish children's book author. Website

Join us for an inspiring episode of the Them Before Us podcast as we sit down with Kristin Hall, a fellow advocate for children's rights who proves that passion and determination can make a difference.

Kristin, who like many of us does not have formal credentials in law or advocacy, is passionate about living out her calling to champion the rights of children in her community and context. Her story exemplifies the core message of Them Before Us—that advocacy isn't defined by titles or influence, but by the unwavering dedication of everyday adults who refuse to see children victimized.