Them Before Us Podcast

In this powerful conversation, Delano Squires, Heritage Foundation fellow and author of the Pro-Child Politics chapter on race, joins Jenn to unpack the lies about race that are hurting children in America today.Delano exposes how media narratives, activist agendas, and race-essentialist policies twist the truth and distract us from what really matters: building strong families and safe communities for all kids, regardless of skin color.He challenges the belief that racial disparities always equal racism and warns against the seductive but destructive push for “good” discrimination as a fix. Instead, Delano offers a child-centric lens grounded in truth, dignity, and equal justice. He calls us back to biblical principles, consistent standards, and the moral courage to speak honestly, even when it’s unpopular.This episode isn’t just a critique, it’s a clear call to love children more than politics and to fight for policies that truly protect and empower the next generation.You can also hear from Delano on TBU episode #038 and see his work on X, @DelanoSquires, at The Blaze https://www.theblaze.com/u/delano_squires, and at Heritage Foundation.

In this TBU episode, Jenn has a conversation with Scott David Allen, President of Disciple Nations Alliance and author of a new book, ⁠"10 Words to Heal our Broken World⁠." They focus on two of the words being redefined by culture to the detriment of children: sex and marriage. Check out this episode and Scott's book!

Katy hosts Moms for Liberty's Tiffany Justice, one of our Pro-Child Politics authors who wrote our chapter on Education. They talk about the cultural lies that teachers are the experts, that children "belong to all of us," that unions care about kids, and more. You'll feel empowered hearing about how parents are stepping up and taking on ANY institution that doesn't have their children's best interests in mind.

See more from Tiffany at:

https://x.com/4TiffanyJustice

https://www.momsforliberty.org/m4lu/

As we approach the Abundant Life Conference on October 19th, Katy Faust will join a number of pro-life speakers and organizations to promote children-first policies before and after babies are born. One of the speakers from the conference, Daniel Parks, joins us to talk about his organization Love Life and the work they're doing to support babies and mothers around the country.

Check out more at

https://lovelife.org/

And register for the Abundant Life Conference at https://www.abundantlifewa.org/conference/

Long-time fellow advocate Katherine Breckenridge joins the podcast to share about her book, "Silent Sorrows: Let's Talk About Abortion, Reproductive Technologies, and Adoption." This is a great resource about the ethical problems with IVF and other technologies, primarily from a Christian perspective. Between this and the TBU book, you'll have comprehensive secular AND Christian arguments for the rights of children.

At Them Before Us, we want to highlight things that might be a great resource for individuals and families engaging in politics and culture. Our sphere is particularly marriage & family but The Center for Biblical Unity has many great resources for Christians considering cultural topics like LGBT ideology, racism/race/CRT/DEI and more. Krista and Monique are great friends of TBU and have also brought our resources to their audiences. Check them out!

Katy, Josh & Jenn breakdown the Vice Presidential debate and the remarkable difference in tone and substance compared to the folks at the top of the ticket.

In this episode, journalist and Breakpoint host Maria Baer joins us to unpack one of the most urgent questions of modern parenting: Is our digital world robbing children of an embodied childhood?As a contributing author to Pro-Child Politics, Maria explores how digital tech, especially in education, is subtly but profoundly reshaping what it means to grow up. This isn’t just about screen addiction or online bullying. It’s about how technology is replacing real-world, bodily, human experiences that children need to grow, learn, and flourish.We talk about why education isn’t just about information, why physical presence matters, and how even good tech can’t replicate the relational, tactile, and spiritual formation that comes through embodied living. Plus: practical steps parents and schools can take to reclaim a more analog, more human way of raising kids.This one’s a must-listen for anyone raising or educating kids in a tech-saturated world, and for advocates who want to put children’s needs first in our cultural and policy debates.Check out more from Maria at:https://mariabaer.substack.com/https://breakpoint.org/breakpoint-podcasts/

In this episode, we’re joined by Christian Watson, artist, creative director, and the designer behind the Pro-Child Politics book cover, to talk about the deeper meaning of art—what it says, what it lasts for, and what it’s pointing toward.Christian shares his journey from vintage-obsessed teen to sought-after designer, and why his work is rooted in truth and beauty, not trends. He calls on Christian creatives to break free from the cycle of copying secular culture and start making art that actually shapes culture—art that points to God by being excellent, honest, and beautiful.From the story behind the book cover to reflections on cathedrals built over centuries, this conversation is a rallying cry to believers: stop reacting, and start building. Because good art isn't just good for culture—it's good theology.Jenn and Christian also chat about why Christian's company chose the year 1942, and how he brought Katy's vision for the Pro-Child Politics book cover to fruition.See more from Christian:https://1924.us/https://www.instagram.com/1924us