Then Again, Maybe I Won't

What does it take to manage high-stakes maritime finance? Robert Toney shares the realities of a niche, high-pressure industry.

In this episode of Then Again, Maybe I won't, Daniel Bryant sits down with Robert Toney to discuss the complexities of the maritime world. They explore the operational side of the industry, focusing on the specialized field of maritime finance and the logistical demands of repositioning vessels.

Robert breaks down the grit required for asset repossession and the nuances of high-end yacht sales. This conversation offers a look at how specialized business leadership functions when the stakes are tied to physical assets on the water. It is a guide for anyone curious about the mechanics of a misunderstood sector.

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What separates great entrepreneurs from everyone else?

In this episode of Then Again Maybe I Won't, Daniel Bryant sits down with entrepreneur, investor, and business leader Tim Stojka to discuss the mindset behind building successful companies, raising capital, navigating economic cycles, and leading with character.

Tim shares lessons from decades of building businesses, investing in innovation, and adapting through major technological shifts including the rise of AI. From fundraising strategies to servant leadership, this conversation is packed with practical insights for entrepreneurs, executives, investors, and anyone looking to build something meaningful.

In this episode, you'll learn:

•  Why raising capital is a strategy not validation 
•  The biggest fundraising mistakes entrepreneurs make 
•  How great leaders build resilient companies 
•  Why character compounds over time 
•  Leadership lessons across generations 
•  The impact AI will have on business and investing 
•  Why reinvention is essential for long-term success 
•  How purpose creates high-performing teams 

Whether you're launching a startup, leading a team, investing in businesses, or preparing for the future of AI, this episode offers timeless leadership principles that apply across every industry.

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What if wealth management was about more than just investments?

In this episode of Then Again, Daniel Bryant sits down with Brice Pelliccioni, CEO of Trilith Wealth Management, for a conversation about reinvention, leadership, and why the future of financial advising goes far beyond managing assets.

Brice shares his unconventional journey from preparing for medical school to stepping into the family business and how he’s helping reshape the modern financial advisory model.

In this episode, we discuss:

Why Brice walked away from the traditional path to wealth management
What it’s really like working alongside family in business
The evolution of financial advising from relationship-driven to tech-enabled
How AI is transforming client service and operational efficiency
Why investments should come last not first in financial planning
Building an integrated business that combines wealth management, insurance, and tax strategy
What success looks like for today’s business leaders

This conversation explores what it means to challenge industry norms, think long-term, and build a business around client experience rather than convention.

Key Takeaways:
✔ Great wealth management starts with planning, not portfolios
✔ Technology should enhance human connection—not replace it
✔ The best businesses solve problems before clients know they have them
✔ Sometimes the smartest move is refusing to stay in the lane everyone expects

🎙️ Then Again is a podcast about reinvention, reflection, and the moments that lead us to choose a different path.

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In this episode of Then Again, Maybe I Won’t Daniel Bryant sits down with hedge fund manager and CEO Karim Mawji of Eagle Talon Partners for a deep conversation on investing, leadership, and the hidden psychology behind successful businesses.

Karim shares how growing up across multiple countries shaped his ability to understand people  a skill that eventually became the foundation of his unique investment philosophy. Instead of relying solely on spreadsheets and financial models, Karim focuses on leadership judgment, company culture, and the ability of CEOs to execute under pressure.

From Wall Street and Morgan Stanley to building Paragon Intel, Karim explains:
• Why leadership often matters more than financial data
• How hedge funds evaluate CEOs behind the scenes
• The difference between conviction and restraint in investing
• Why some “perfect” leaders still fail
• The importance of judgment in business and life
• How AI is changing investing and decision-making
• The hidden dangers of short-term thinking in markets

This episode is packed with insights for entrepreneurs, investors, executives, and anyone interested in leadership and decision-making at the highest level.

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In the first episode of Then Again... Maybe I Won't, I sit down with Sophia Shaw, former President & CEO of the Chicago Botanic Garden, nonprofit leader, and co-founder of PlanPerfect.

In this conversation, she shares insights from her distinguished career in the nonprofit sector. As a guiding light in nonprofit leadership, she discusses her time as president and CEO of the Chicago Botanic Gardens. Her experience extends to nonprofit management, where she educated MBA students on nonprofit organization governance through the Kellogg Fellows program.

This episode is about more than leadership. It’s about redefining success, embracing uncertainty, and realizing you don’t have to follow the path others expect.

Key Takeaways:

We lead differently at every stage of life
Purpose doesn’t fade—it evolves
Life is hard, but we can do hard things
Don’t wait. Live and give like the future is wide open

🎙️ Then Again is a podcast about reflection, reinvention, and the moments that change our direction.

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00:00 – Nonprofit Leadership Journey | Sophia Shah Intro
01:05 – Career Transition After Success | “Then Again, Maybe I Won’t”
02:23 – Financial Freedom & Career Decisions | What’s Next After CEO?
05:11 – Nonprofit vs Corporate Leadership | Key Differences Explained
08:31 – Fundraising Strategies for Nonprofits | Authentic Leadership Wins
11:32 – Nonprofit Board Governance & MBA Leadership Training
14:54 – Nonprofit Software & Strategy | Building PlanPerfect
21:00 – Finding Purpose in Life & Career | Reinvention at Any Age