There Are No Tangents

There Are No Tangents

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There Are No Tangents episodes

  • Shifting Gears with Karrie Brandt and Dominique Woodward, Part 1

    Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! We are thrilled to share the first part of our next Shifting Gears installment with Karrie Brandt and Dominique Woodward, coaches and co-hosts of the Awakened and Alive (After 40) podcast.


    01:20 - Excited to introduce our special guests

    03:03 - Parallel paths (“Podcast twins”)

    04:00 - Dominique Woodward’s journey to trauma-informed coaching and Quantum Human Design

    06:23 - Karrie’s journey to creating her own life, including her Enneagram certification experience

    08:00 - Karrie and Dominique’s friendship origin story and the planner community

    15:45 - Awakened & Alive (After 40) origin story

    18:15 - Karrie’s shifting gears - big moves, including life in Spain, and career transitions

    28:50 - Lisa interjects with a Human Design question 

    34:30 - Overlap of Enneagram and Human Design

    35:50 - Karrie’s internal shifts and stepping out of rigid structures


    Karrie, certified Enneagram coach, is on IG @ennalignmentco

    Dominique, Human Design and trauma-informed coach, is on IG @dominiquekwoodward

    Please subscribe to their delightful podcast wherever you get your pods and check them out on IG as well @awakenedandalivepodcast 


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    Contact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on Instagram


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    42 min
  • Real Talk: feelings, emotions, and avoiding the flood

    Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! Straight up...we didn't know if we were going to release this conversation or not. Yet, here we are. After an extremely emotional week, we thought it would be worthwhile to discuss how our body, heart, and mind tend to deal with big feelings and emotions. Spoiler alert: we both cry in this episode, so there's that. How do you process big feelings and emotions?


    0:00 Intro

    1:20 "We are a hopeless bunch today."

    3:10 Don't be shy, Emma. Tell us how you really feel. Go off.

    4:15 Let's discuss the body, heart, and mind

    5:20 Lisa reveals her meditation patterns. Shocker...it's more 9 stuff.

    8:10 Emma responds in kind and, once again, tries to nuance differences between head types and body types

    12:00 "Until I can get into my body, I can't tap into my heart"

    12:24 Emma is bitchy today, and Lisa likes it

    12:50 Everything feels inextricably linked. Lisa explains her experience of gratitude.

    15:15 "It all feels painful."

    17:55 Our respective approaches to processing emotions; being cryptic; clawing people's eyes

    23:30 "The heart feels untrustworthy."

    24:22 Lisa lightens the mood with a question about trifix and Emma is relieved.

    26:40 More tears. Emma's experience of the heart space. Fear of the flood.

    30:55 "Well, shit."

    31:50 Lisa's turn to cry again.

    32:35 "If people will watch us, they will be instantly charmed."

    33:25 Emma gives Lisa an internal tingle



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    35 min
  • Neurodiversity, Ableism, and Finding Balance with Tiffany

    Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! Our friend Tiffany is with us to share about her personal journey with parenting her daughter who is autistic, living with ADHD, and advocating for change in the disabled community. We learned a lot from Tiffany in this episode and we know you will as well.


    Some links/resources that Tiffany provided so that you can go deeper into understanding more about autism, disability, and neurodiversity:


    *Disability Reframed on Instagram @disabilityreframed

    *Neurodivergent Rebel on Facebook @neurodivergentrebel

    *Hvppyhands on Facebook @HVPPYHANDS

    *Two Sides of the Spectrum podcast: https://two-sides-of-the-spectrum.simplecast.com/

    *Why everything you know about autism is wrong TedTalk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1AUdaH-EPM


    0:00 Intro

    3:10 A bit about Tiffany & introducing the topic of neurodiversity

    6:50 Tiffany's background in special education, having her second child (Bayley), and internal shifts

    11:30 Recalling patterns and differences she started noticing in Bayley's first year of life

    14:30 "I think she's autistic."

    16:00 The arrival of 2020 and challenges during the pandemic

    16:50 Tiffany explains terms. "Pro-neurodiversity" language.

    22:13 Early intervention, evaluations, and praise for Bayley's therapists

    24:40 Shifting away from "Autism Spectrum Disorder". Tiffany explains what is meant by the word "spectrum" and clarifies misconceptions

    32:20 What shifted after Bayley received her diagnosis

    33:10 Shout out to Adrienne Shortridge! A shift in perspective: "It wasn't Bayley that needed to change...we needed to change."

    34:40 Tiffany notices her own neurodiversity and receives an ADHD diagnosis

    37:15 Lisa shares her journey. OCD? ADHD? HSP?

    39:20 Discussion about overlap between HSP and other forms of neurodiversity

    44:50 ADHD confirmed. Shifts that have occurred since starting medication and implementing new supports

    51:35 Ableism and how it impacts our perception

    58:30 "What gives you hope about shifts you're seeing (and what still gives you major pause)?"

    1:08:40 "Is there a lesson or takeaway from all of the gears you've shifted?" Giving people grace when they are resistant to change. Finding balance.

    1:13:15 Expressing our gratitude for Tiffany



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    1 hr 16 min
  • The Thing About Moving Is...

    Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! It is with mixed emotions that we discuss Lisa’s imminent move and the prospect of making new friends as an adult. Stay tuned until the end of the episode for details on a special announcement - or else.


    1:35 - What job offer? And related emotions

    3:45 - Maybe we should do an intro…but first, Emma goes emo

    4:20 - Emma is stuffing

    4:43 - Good morning, except there’s an omen

    5:25 - Back to shifting gears - our own

    5:56 - PSA: Lisa is moving to Asheville

    7:05 - If you’ve made it this far, stay tuned until the end for another PSA

    8:45 - How this move came about, in which Lisa uses the word “transpired” for the first time in this episode and shares at length the similarities between the upcoming move and the move to Kentucky

    15:30 - Emma doesn’t like it

    23:30 - Return to emo

    26:12 - Upcoming Emma+Lisa collab

    27:00 - The thing about moving is that you have to make new friends

    29:50 - Difficulties of making friends as an adult and the friend filtration system

    36:16 - Interlude: Speaking of socially awkward….

    45:35 - Ruptured friendships

    48:04 - Inclement weather (the omen)

    48:40 - The second PSA - check our IG @notangents for all the details

    53:30 - Convo to be continued



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    Contact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on Instagram


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    55 min
  • Shifting Gears with Mary Beth Murray


    Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! We’re excited to be joined by esteemed guest, dear pal, and friend of the pod Mary Beth Murray. In this conversation she vulnerably shares her shifting gears experience related to health issues, work/life balance, and more. 


    1:00 - First ever No Tangents guest!

    3:20 - Mary Beth’s bio

    5:50 - Mary Beth’s bladder cancer diagnosis

    11:00 - Trying to balance regular life with self-care

    12:45 - The gifts of the challenge

    13:30 - Inner strength and alternative healing modalities

    18:00 - Bladder cancer patient advocacy 

    19:45 - Yoga and health restoration

    21:45 - Spiral dynamics / time as a spiral 

    23:25 - Return to Danville and another health scare

    26:20 - Changing circumstances that force decisions vs. initiating changes

    27:35 - Returning to the workforce and the effects of the pandemic on motherhood

    30:45 - Work/home balance and part-time work

    33:20 - Asking for what we need

    42:00 - Comfort in contingencies

    43:45 - Learning patience and flow

    45:30 - Grief and gifts in transitions

    46:30 - Ready for big transitions

    47:00 - Recap 

    47:53 - Our popping email

    48:40 - Farewell to our coveted friend Mary Beth



    For cancer support and resources, please visit https://www.cancersupportcommunity.org and BCAN.org. First Descents, which offers outdoor adventures for young adults impacted by cancer, (https://firstdescents.org) is another organization Mary Beth recommends.



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    Contact Emma: emmascottcoaching.com or @theenneagramconnection on Instagram


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    50 min
  • Shifting Gears: Career Transitions & Finding Our Groove

    Welcome to Season 2 of There Are No Tangents podcast! One difference you can expect: We will have guests! More to come on that...


    We can't wait to bring you more fresh content, as we explore the topic of change and transitions -- something we've all experienced in our lives to some degree.


    In our first episode of Season 2, we discuss a topic that's been top of mind for us for the last year or so...starting and adapting our businesses.


    If you've been curious about what we do and what brought us here, listen in!


    0:00 Intro

    1:10 Happy New Year!

    1:50 Shifting gears and starting our businesses

    3:43 Lisa recalls a coaching session: "Creative Communication"

    7:33 Coaching + Graphics = Brand Identity

    9:30 Creating Emma's website

    11:00 Brand identity sweet spot and expertise

    15:00 Setting yourself and your business apart

    16:30 Example of Lisa's coaching process

    19:55 Emma's massage therapy experience/making connections

    24:00 Synchronicity and being magnetic

    24:50 Surprise: We dislike networking events

    28:12 Human Design: helping us make sense of our strengths

    30:30 Marketing, persuasion, and meeting people where they are

    32:00 Emma gets edified by Lisa and Emma attempts to receive it

    37:37 Enneagram provides a new lens and language

    39:45 Circling back to Human Design & pining for a guest expert

    44:54 Emma discusses her biz, the challenges her clients face, & struggles with "finding a niche"

    49:20 Shifting from "self-improvement junkie" to self-acceptance

    50:50 Thoughts on healing, wholeness, and integration

    53:00 The concept of "ego" as a future topic

    54:12 The joy of parallel journeys and evolving business plans

    58:26 Outro


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    59 min
  • Season Finale: Shifting Gears

    Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! We cannot thank our listeners and viewers enough for hanging with us through our first season. In this episode, we intro our new series: Shifting Gears.


    We'll be back the first week of January 2023. In 2023, you can expect us to feature some guests on the pod! If you've been enjoying the podcast/YouTube channel, please consider subscribing, rating, and sharing with others. Sending love your way as 2022 comes to a close!


    0:00 Intro

    1:14 Feeling spacey & emotional

    3:15 Introducing our new series: Shifting Gears

    5:34 Call to action: Do you want to be a guest on our pod?

    6:50 Lisa's coaching session inspiration

    9:12 Transitions: when there's choice involved vs not

    11:05 Excited about our future guests

    11:30 L & E get into some of their shifts

    12:43 Emma remembers Lisa's life better than her own

    13:03 Lisa gets into some gears she's shifted

    13:50 Lisa recalls approaching 40

    16:00 Dabbling in interior design

    18:10 Lisa's learning style

    19:04 A big light bulb moment for Lisa

    20:55 Cycles that come with parenting & family life

    21:40 "The only constant in life is change" and how it can feel unsettling

    22:25 Emma's move back to KY

    23:10 Emma's previous job, discernment, and moving on

    27:10 Switching tasks, control issues, HSPs, & organization or lack thereof

    37:00 Let's tangent back to career shifts and discuss it in depth in the next episode...

    37:58 Outro


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    39 min
  • Gratitude

    Thanks for joining us for today's tangents…aka Gin & Tangents Pt. 2. But really, it’s all about gratitude. Or mostly about gratitude. You get the idea.


    We encourage you to view this episode on our YouTube channel - There Are No Tangents Podcast - in order to get the full experience. :)


    Intro

    1:00 Hoods

    3:20 Thrust and divulge

    4:20 Tonight’s topic: Gratitude

    5:04 “I’m not going to tell you anything”

    5:25 Branch off: Manifestation

    7:07 Lisa’s tenets of gratitude that she sort of remembers: Being honest, being specific…and being regular

    9:35 Emma is naturally charismatic?

    11:40 We may or may not put this out as an episode

    12:10 Lisa is grateful for Emma (Is the feeling reciprocal?)

    12:54 “This is verging on a fetish”

    13:40 Back to the topic at hand: Emma’s recent gratitude experience

    15:00 Emma was just a corpse looking at a corpse of a tree

    16:05 There is a creepy disruption

    17:00 Felt sense of gratitude vs. “head exercise”

    17:25 Gratitude in children vs. adult interpretation

    20:20 Gratitude/joy relationship

    21:20 A welling up


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    24 min
  • Listener Question

    Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! In this episode, we are excited to answer a question posed by one of our listeners! The question is: "Where's a travel location you're most excited to visit next, if it could be anywhere, and budget didn't matter?"


    We'd love to hear from you, too! How would you answer this question?


    0:00 Intro

    1:20 Confessions, identity crisis, musical obsessions

    6:55 We've gotten some listener questions!

    8:00 Let's talk Egypt

    14:45 Lisa's other travel preferences

    16:30 Traveling with kids

    17:25 "Is there a place you've visited that you would return?"

    20:10 Parisian terror and love

    27:36 Trying to re-live a past experience

    30:00 E & L plan their NYC trip

    35:00 Requesting listener feedback

    35:40 Making ourselves laugh

    37:05 Farewell


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    38 min
  • Instinctual Drives: Social dominance, loneliness, sociopathy, tickled fancies, and so much more

    Thanks for joining us for today's tangents! As promised, here’s a deeper conversation on the instinctual drives and stackings. 


    Check out our Instagram (@notangents) to take a look at our collages. Then, create your own and share them with us via Instagram or email.


    CHAPTERS:

    01:00 Brunch beverages in David Kring mugs + a brief convo on the 4 clairs

    04:00 Intro to the instincts: social, self-preservation & sexual

    12:30 Collage exercise & instinctual stackings

    18:00 Shocker: We probably have the same instinctual stacking

    21:45 Connection and missing people 

    29:00 Is Lisa a sociopath?

    32:45 Experience of loneliness

    36:00 Getting back to the social instinct

    40:00 Social and the effects of the Covid lockdown

    46:30 Instinctual stacking archetypes

    49:30 Emma’s fancy is tickled


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    55 min

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We’re Emma and Lisa, friends who talk a lot.



We are both deeply curious, and one thing we have in common is a fascination with the human experience…