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What happens when you trade the corporate playbook to build something from the ground up?In this episode of There Is No Alternative, Tina Bou-Saba, founder of CXT Investments, sits down with Matt Mullenax, Co-Founder and CEO of Huron, to talk about the mindset, grit, and optimism it takes to turn a founder’s own problem into a brand that’s rethinking men’s personal care.Matt shares how his years as a college football player shaped his leadership style and his approach to entrepreneurship. From long days filled with “no’s” to the belief that “the mark of a good leader is irrational optimism,” this conversation dives into what it really means to build something from nothing, with purpose, endurance, and heart.They talk about the scrappy early days of Huron, why he chose to leave the safety of investment banking and private equity, and how vulnerability became the secret to connecting with customers. It’s a story about betting on yourself, learning through doing, and leading with empathy in an industry that’s ripe for change.If you’re building, investing, or simply curious about what it takes to create a modern consumer brand, this one’s for you.In This Episode:• Why embracing imperfection fuels resilience.• How “irrational optimism” keeps founders moving forward.• The unglamorous daily habits that define great leadership.• Why building trust, with customers and yourself, is the real differentiator.Chapters:[00:00] Trading Playbooks: From Athlete to Entrepreneur[02:45] Starting from Zero: The Scrappy Early Days of Huron[05:52] Building the Brand: What the Market Taught Us[08:49] Meet the Huron Guy: Knowing Your Customer Inside Out[12:04] Routines & Reality: How Founders Find Balance[14:51] Leadership Lessons: Empowering (and Trusting) Your Team[17:56] Hiring That Works: Attitude vs. Aptitude[20:55] Radical Transparency: Building Trust as a Leader[27:15] Optimism Meets Realism: The Founder’s Balancing Act[31:01] Weathering the Storm: Staying Resilient Through Challenges[31:29] Amazon & the Pivot: Playing the Long Game in Retail[34:00] Signature Scents: Expanding Through Product and Emotion[36:56] Lessons from the Journey: What Founders Should Know[38:43] Investor Empathy: Building Real Relationships with Founders[42:21] For Aspiring Founders: Start with Connection and Conviction🎧 Listen and subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Youtube🌐 Full-length episodes at cxtinvestments.com📍 Follow me on LinkedIn for more founder stories, investor insights, and candid conversations.🎙️ There Is No Alternative: Lessons in Entrepreneurial Leadership with Tina Bou-Saba
In this episode of There Is No Alternative, Tina Bou-Saba, founder of CXT Investments, interviews Sarah Foley, Managing Partner at InviNext Growth Partners, to explore her unique journey from private equity to early-stage consumer investing. Sarah shares the pivotal moments that shaped her career, the lessons she’s learned from both the boardroom and the trenches, and why she believes building brands is about emotional connection, strategic clarity, and a decade-long commitment.
They discuss the frameworks behind identifying “maverick founders,” the rise of content-driven commerce, and the deep empathy needed to be both a great investor and partner. From Supergoop to Knix, Sarah offers inside stories and sharp takeaways for anyone building or backing consumer businesses.
If you're a founder, investor, or operator navigating consumer, wellness, or brand building, you’ll find a ton to learn here.
In This Episode:
Why Sarah left private equity to back early-stage brands
How she defines “emerging growth” and why execution beats everything
What makes a founder “maverick” and how to spot one
Fundraising and the story behind two major exits: Supergoop and Knix
The role of brand storytelling, capital efficiency, and emotional resonance in long-term success
Trends shaping the future of consumer, from wellness and fan engagement to AI-powered brand building
Chapters
[00:00] Sarah’s early career in investment banking and her mission-driven lens on consumer investing.
[06:20] Transitioning from operations to VC, learning from pain points at the operating level.
[10:40] Exploring founder qualities like storytelling, resilience, and clarity of vision.
[15:12] Why Gut, Grit, and Growth define her thesis for successful consumer businesses.
[19:05] On discipline in investing and turning down good businesses that don’t fit their thesis.
[22:45] Discussing the deep personal drivers behind iconic brands and founders.
[26:00] Metrics and founder behaviors that stand out in early-stage consumer companies.
[30:22] Stories behind two of Sarah’s most successful long-term investments.
[34:12] Reflections on lean growth, customer advocacy, and strategic fundraising.
[38:15] Passion, authenticity, and leadership, how lasting brands come to life.
[41:45] A decade-long view of what it takes to build and scale purpose-driven companies.
🎧 Listen and subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube
🌐 Full-length episodes at CXTInvestments.com
📍 Follow me on LinkedIn for more founder stories, investor insights, and candid conversations.
🎙️ There Is No Alternative: Lessons in Entrepreneurial Leadership with Tina Bou-Saba
In this episode of There Is No Alternative, Tina Bou-Saba, founder of CXT Investments, sits down with Sarah Moret, Founder & CEO of Curie, to unpack how she went from bootstrapping her deodorant business from her apartment to getting major deals with QVC, Shark Tank, andWalmart.
They dig into the gritty truths behind finding and building on early product-market fit, developing a highly engaged customer community, the sales lessons learned from QVC, and how founder enthusiasm, conviction, and social media magic help Curie punch far above its weight.
If you're creating a new beauty or wellness brand, growing an existing one, or just curious what scrappy consumer brand success really looks like, this one's for you.
In This Episode:
The leap from side hustle to full-time entrepreneurship
Navigating retail expansion and driving velocity
Shark Tank lessons and its long tail of impact
Hiring for hustle, energy, and execution
Creating brand love in a crowded personal care category
How capital efficiency shaped every strategic choice
Chapters:
[00:00] From Frustration to Founder: How Curie Was Born
[02:52] Launching with $12K: Early Hustle and Product Development
[04:55] The Phil Knight Lesson That Pushed Her All In
[07:10] Doing It All: Fulfillment, Customer Support, and Sisterly Help
[09:33] Scrappy Growth: Email Lists, Social Media, and DMs
[12:15] Learning from Customers and Building Loyalty
[14:15] Becoming the Face of Curie (Reluctantly)
[16:14] Behind the Scenes of QVC: Rejection, Return, and Sell-Out Success
[18:20] Shark Tank Prep and the Wild Ride to the Set
[24:41] What Shark Tank Did for Curie’s Revenue and Visibility
[26:46] The Walmart Deal That Started with a DM
[29:31] Lessons in Retail: Getting In Is Just the Beginning
[31:48] Push Back, Speak Up: Navigating Buyer and Broker Incentives
[33:59] Product Line Expansion: Spray Deodorant and the Armpit Mask
[36:26] Going Viral: TikTok Strategy, Hooks, and Conversion
[38:42] Building a Capital-Efficient Team with Hustle DNA
[41:02] Hiring for Grit and Entrepreneurial Energy
[43:04] What’s Next: New Products and TikTok Momentum
[45:29] Founder Advice: Stay Curious and Test Constantly
[49:04] The Power of Profitability in Scaling Smart
[50:04] Favorite Product Picks and the Art of Fragrance
🎧 Listen and subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube
🌐 Full-length episodes at CXTInvestments.com
📍 Follow me on LinkedIn for more founder stories, investor insights, and candid conversations.
🎙️ There Is No Alternative: Lessons in Entrepreneurial Leadership with Tina Bou-Saba
What happens when an investor becomes a founder, and decides to rebuild e-commerce from the ground up?
In this episode of There Is No Alternative, Tina Bou-Saba, founder of CXT Investments, sits down with Ben Davis, Founder & CEO of TryNow, to unpack his entrepreneurial journey and the lessons learned building a company that helps shoppers “try before they buy.”
Ben shares how his background in investing shaped his view on capital efficiency, what he’s learned about leadership, and why resilience matters more than experience when building start-up teams. Together, they explore the state of the consumer ecosystem, from CAC and LTV to platform dependency, Meta’s dominance, and what’s next in e-commerce.
If you care about building, funding, or scaling modern consumer brands, this is a must-listen.
In This Episode:
How trust became the foundation for TryNow’s model
Lessons from fundraising and early growth
Why “grit” is the #1 hiring filter for star-tup teams
The psychology behind founder resilience
What’s next for e-commerce and the future of brand building
Chapters:
[00:00] Meet Ben Davis: Reinventing E-Commerce with TryNow
[01:47] From Idea to Startup: Solving for Trust in Shopping
[05:30] Fundraising Lessons: Building a Capital-Efficient Business
[08:38] Rethinking CAC and LTV in Modern Commerce
[13:50] Founder Psychology: From Therapy Roots to Behavioral Economics
[17:52] Hiring for Grit: What It Takes to Build a Great Team
[21:16] Founder Mode: Staying Close to the Customer
[28:56] Mindset and Maintenance: Staying Grounded as a Founder
[35:17] The Future of Commerce: Data, Trust, and Diversification
[43:08] Final Advice: Don’t Do It Unless You Can’t Not Do It
🎧 Listen and subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube
🌐 Full-length episodes at CXTInvestments.com
📍 Follow me on LinkedIn for more founder stories, investor insights, and candid conversations.
🎙️ There Is No Alternative: Lessons in Entrepreneurial Leadership with Tina Bou-Saba
What prompts someone to leave a successful investing career to start a beauty brand from scratch?
In this episode of There Is No Alternative, Tina Bou-Saba, founder of CXT Investments, sits down with Patricia Santos, founder & CEO of Volition Beauty, to talk about the moment she realized that she could be an entrepreneur, what it means to lead with conviction, and how Volition is changing the beauty industry by putting creators at the center.
Patricia opens up about her path from VC to founder, how challenges shaped her early experiences, and the lessons she’s learned about resilience, leadership, and strategic thinking in beauty and consumer brands.
Together, they unpack how creator-led innovation works in practice, what it takes to build operationally strong brands, and how to keep perspective through the highs and lows of entrepreneurship.
If you’re a founder, operator, or investor interested in the future of consumer brands, this one’s for you.
In This Episode:
Why founder conviction matters more than a “perfect” idea
The origin of Volition’s co-creation model with creators and fans
How to lead and fundraise as a female founder in beauty
Why choosing the right partners and team defines your trajectory
[00:00] Meet Patricia Santos: Redefining Beauty Through Co-Creation
[02:01] From Wall Street to Wellness: How Patricia Found Her Purpose
[11:36] The Spark Behind Volition: Building a Brand with Heart and Data
[19:26] Inside the Volition Model: Innovating with Creators, Not Just for Them
[27:15] The Creator Economy, Evolved: What’s Changing and What Still Matters
[28:31] Collaboration in Action: The Story Behind Bram T. Juliette
[33:16] Finding the “It” Factor: What Makes a Creator Stand Out
[37:00] The CEO’s Role in a Creator-Led Brand
[40:19] The Beauty Investment Landscape: Lessons from Both Sides of the Table
[44:12] Scaling Smart: How Patricia Thinks About Acquisitions and Partnerships
[50:01] Advice for Founders: What Patricia Wants Every Entrepreneur to Know
🎧 Listen and subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube🌐 Full-length episodes at CXTInvestments.com📍 Follow me on LinkedIn for more founder stories, investor insights, and candid conversations.🎙️ There Is No Alternative: Lessons in Entrepreneurial Leadership with Tina Bou-Saba
What happens when you trade the corporate playbook to build something from the ground up?
In this episode of There Is No Alternative, Tina Bou-Saba, founder of CXT Investments, sits down with Matt Mullenax, Co-Founder and CEO of Huron, to talk about the mindset, grit, and optimism it takes to turn a founder’s own problem into a brand that’s rethinking men’s personal care.
Matt shares how his years as a college football player shaped his leadership style and his approach to entrepreneurship. From long days filled with “no’s” to the belief that “the mark of a good leader is irrational optimism,” this conversation dives into what it really means to build something from nothing, with purpose, endurance, and heart.
They talk about the scrappy early days of Huron, why he chose to leave the safety of investment banking and private equity, and how vulnerability became the secret to connecting with customers. It’s a story about betting on yourself, learning through doing, and leading with empathy in an industry that’s ripe for change.
If you’re building, investing, or simply curious about what it takes to create a modern consumer brand, this one’s for you.
In This Episode:
Chapters:
[00:00] Trading Playbooks: From Athlete to Entrepreneur
[02:45] Starting from Zero: The Scrappy Early Days of Huron
[05:52] Building the Brand: What the Market Taught Us
[08:49] Meet the Huron Guy: Knowing Your Customer Inside Out
[12:04] Routines & Reality: How Founders Find Balance
[14:51] Leadership Lessons: Empowering (and Trusting) Your Team
[17:56] Hiring That Works: Attitude vs. Aptitude
[20:55] Radical Transparency: Building Trust as a Leader
[27:15] Optimism Meets Realism: The Founder’s Balancing Act
[31:01] Weathering the Storm: Staying Resilient Through Challenges
[31:29] Amazon & the Pivot: Playing the Long Game in Retail
[34:00] Signature Scents: Expanding Through Product and Emotion
[36:56] Lessons from the Journey: What Founders Should Know
[38:43] Investor Empathy: Building Real Relationships with Founders
[42:21] For Aspiring Founders: Start with Connection and Conviction
🎧 Listen and subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube
🌐 Full-length episodes at CXTInvestments.com
📍 Follow me on LinkedIn for more founder stories, investor insights, and candid conversations.
🎙️ There Is No Alternative: Lessons in Entrepreneurial Leadership with Tina Bou-Saba
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