There's No "A" in Creemee

We head to Danville to sit down with David Roth, Democratic candidate for Caledonia's State Senate seat, in his sugar shack on one of George Cary’s historic sugarbushes. Over rum-barrel-aged syrup, David makes the case against forced school closures, calls for getting school funding off the property tax, and talks maple co-ops, community pharmacies, Act 181, and the St. Johnsbury Reset.

In our opener, Joanna digs into her poll on why Vermonters flock to No Kings rallies but not candidate canvasses, and Andy explains the pause in school merger meetings.

Plus: Last Licks returns with the TV characters your candidates relate to most, and David’s maple chocolate twist Creemee order.

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Addison County Senate candidate Hannah Sessions of Blue Ledge Farm joins us to talk about why she finally said yes to running, how her Unitarian Universalist faith keeps her grounded, and why farmers need a seat at the table. We dig into Act 181 and land conservation, current use, distributor consolidation and the rise of food hubs, tariffs, small schools, town nurses, and universal primary care.

In the opener, Joanna and Andy unpack October surprises in the LG race and make the case for ending candidate-to-candidate debate questions. Plus: a sneak peek at our Danville sugar shack visit and our upcoming Block of Cheese episode.

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Molly Gray returns to the pod for the home stretch of the Lt. Governor’s race. She talks growing up on her family’s vegetable and dairy farm, the crisis facing Vermont dairy, universal primary care, a model zoning code for rural towns, and why she still shakes her milk. Plus: flannel on Statehouse Style and gas station pickles.

In our opener, a new poll shows a dead heat for governor, Bernie finally endorses Amanda Janoo, and Andy is the lone member of the public at the first school merger meeting. Plus our first Glossary of Shame of season three: shibboleth.

In Last Licks, candidates tell us what they’re secretly dreading if they win.

Attorney General Charity Clark returns for an exclusive conversation on why prosecutors can't play favorites, and the backlash from fellow Democrats over the decision to prosecute ICE protestors. She also breaks down the historic $92.7M Meta settlement, 73 lawsuits against the Trump administration, and a new know-your-rights guide for protesting legally.

In our opener: sheep invade Burlington High, a garter snake terrorizes Andy's frogs, the "left has a purity test, right has a loyalty test" theory, and dueling polls in the governor's race. Plus, Last Licks serves up more gems from our candidate survey.

Show Notes: Vermont Attorney General's Office Know Your Rights Guide here.

Lieutenant Governor John Rogers joins us to talk about growing up on a dairy farm, his masonry business, and his journey from Democrat to Republican. We dig into affordability, net metering, Act 250, the trades workforce, supervisory unions, universal health care, and the secret behind his "maroon" blazer.

In the opener: a Creemee shortage (thanks, ICE), Andy finally gets his moose and goes to war with a squirrel, a one-year cap on superintendent contracts, Bernie's missing Janoo endorsement, and Dairygate.

In Last Licks, candidates share the best and weirdest food from the campaign trail, from turnip donuts to humble pie.

Season 3 is here! Andy and Joanna open with Andy's up-close bear encounter before digging into this election season’s big questions and why they're stepping back from a strictly partisan lens.

Then Franklin County Democratic Chair and House candidate Zach Scheffler joins to talk about the challenges of running in a district dominated by the opposing party, what's different from his 2024 run, and why housing costs are pushing his Saint Albans neighbors out, how county parties are picking up organizing work the state party can't.

Plus: We shared candidate haikus in a first taste of the results of the There’s No “A” in Creemee candidate survey in Last Licks.

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We are back next week with the best, and most fun, political coverage in Vermont. New guests, new takes, Andy & Joanna’s classic camaraderie — and this time we're going all in on the election. Here’s a fall preview of Vermont’s hit political podcast, There’s No “A” in Creemee. Don’t forget to like & subscribe here and on Substack at open.substack.com/pub/theresnoaincreemee.

Joanna and Andy drop in the booth fresh off the Vermont Democratic primary. She and Andy get into the strange grief of running for office: the sleepless nights, the dehumanization, the artificial turf question that wouldn't die, and the freedom of being a private citizen again.

They cover the results, Republican infiltration of the Democratic primary, the numbers and more.

Plus: a Free Press headline that called a race (wrong) before the polls opened, egrets on Bird Yelp, and our summer plans. Season 3 in September.

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It's hot in the Skate Shack, Joanna's glasses are fogging up, and we're running on fumes — welcome to our last episode before the primary.

Andy takes the agenda for once and Joanna delivers a much-needed PAC 101: what an IE PAC actually is, how coordinating PACs differ, and how independent expenditures can sometimes backfire on the very candidates they're boosting.

Plus: a campaign outing to Bolton Valley (fire tower, chairlift, and yes, an orange creamsicle Creemee), and a deep dive into Vermont's mysterious two-camel population.

Then we replay our conversation with Tim Ashe, candidate for State Auditor.

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Joanna and Andy are back in the Skate Shack for early voting stickers, a discouraged electorate, and an honest look at how the same propaganda tactics that fueled MAGA are now creeping into the left. Plus: AG Charity Clark's 50th birthday bash for Joanna (with mandatory singing), a full recap of the summer creemee tour and a rebroadcast of Joanna's original campaign launch episode.

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