After 15 years of pastoral ministry, Carlene has a few things she would like to share about the ups and downs of a ministerial spouse in the work. In a faith tradition that does not ordain women or truly acknowledge their gifts and calling, it makes sense that ministerial wives are only to be seen, not heard.

Join us in this episode as Carlene talks about ins and outs, ups and downs of 15 years of being married to a pastor.

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