In this episode of Carlene + Jaime: Mentors for the Messy Middle, Jaime sits down with Carlene for one of their most vulnerable conversations yet. They unpack the "strong Black woman" trope, what it costs, and what it actually looks like when a husband chooses to see his wife — fully, consistently, and intentionally.
From the early years of their marriage navigating independence and unspoken expectations, to seasons of feeling unseen, carrying too much, and finding their way back to each other — this one is raw, real, and deeply necessary.
In this episode:
- Why the "strong Black woman" narrative can be a slow death
- What it means to truly see your spouse (not just listen)
- How communication — not assumption — is what saves marriages
- What Carlene wants Katelynn and Amber to see modeled in how Jaime loves her
- Advice for any Black woman who doesn't feel loved well right now
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