Australia has spent almost 15 years trying to buy new surface ships for the navy, but they are still yet to arrive.

That’s because governments have repeatedly thrown out the old plan to introduce their own.

Last week, the Albanese government was the latest to reveal their plans for the future of the navy’s surface fleet. So, will it work?

Today, emeritus professor of strategic studies at the Australian National University and contributor to The Saturday Paper Hugh White, on Labor’s navy overhaul and whether it’s an expensive grab for votes. 

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Guest: Emeritus professor of strategic studies at the Australian National University and contributor to The Saturday Paper, Hugh White

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