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Writer, producer, and radiomaker, Sheila Ngoc Pham joins Reuben and Matt to discuss Kay Dick's dystopian "sequence of unease", They.

Nonconformity, enemies of art, Western Sydney, identity politics in writing, and much more. 

Follow Sheila on Twitter: https://twitter.com/birdpham

Read Sheila's essay on the Western Sydney writing scene: https://sydneyreviewofbooks.com/essay/western-sydney-is-dead-long-live-western-sydney/

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