When Kami realized that she was being targeted by a mean girl–and that the mean girl was her teenage daughter–she needed a discipline tactic that would work. But after trying all the best advice and still getting nowhere, she tried a different path. It involved puffy paint, and it totally worked. Listen to find out why.

Kami shares a surprising secret she learned about parenting from a parent-teacher conference. The story starts with her crying on the floor of her son’s classroom with a tampon, a nickel, and a tooth in her hand and ends with Jesus showing up in the midst of her weakness as a parent, and her kids as the ultimate winners.