How real is heaven to you? Even as believers, is heaven just a concept that we read or study in the Word rather than a real, ultimate destination? We read about joy and hope God infuses within us towards, not only heaven, but also to carry us through the ups and downs of this life. Do we truly LIVE this reality out for others to see? Pastor Brian Brodersen considers such truths in a discussion with author, Randy Alcorn. Having written over fifty books, pastored a church at one time and now directing the non-profit, Eternal Perspective Ministries, Randy shares the need to remember that true happiness and hope in heaven is a real thing that matters.