What happens when a 160-year-old insurance company decides to embrace AI? Peter Maynard, Chief Data and Analytics Officer at Guardian Life, joins Amir to break down how legacy organizations can rethink their playbook, shift mindsets, and move from awareness to execution. From the boardroom to the data science lab, Peter shares how leaders can challenge their own thinking—and create space for their teams to do the same.

Key Takeaways

• AI strategy starts with personal curiosity—leaders must be active learners, not passive observers

• Legacy companies need to understand their business deeply before applying AI solutions

• Trust, not speed, is the currency of transformation inside risk-averse environments

• The best model isn’t always the first one—it’s the space to iterate that drives innovation

• Technical fluency helps leadership translate AI capabilities into real business value

Timestamped Highlights

[03:15] From ChatGPT to Guardian: How Peter’s job changed overnight

[06:20] The 4 levels of leadership when adopting new technology

[08:10] How Peter learns: whitepapers, team discussions, and staying off the “superhighway”

[13:00] What predictive transformers taught Peter about staying sharp on math fundamentals

[17:50] Making the business case: how data teams pitch value, not tech

[23:15] Creating “offer makers”: why Peter requires every project to have a business stakeholder

[25:00] The second model is always better—why iteration needs breathing room

Quote of the Episode

“You always need to have a business customer for every work that you do. You’re not just tinkering—you’re building trust.”

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