This interview was originally broadcast in February 2022 on Radio Dublin South.

The Revd Kevin O'Brien (Rector of Drumcliffe Union of Churches with Kilnasoolagh in County Clare was speaking with Revd Martin O'Connor). The interview has been edited to remove an autobiographical introduction and also copyrighted music.

There is a critical question that I believe every honest Christian should ask themselves - one that all too often we either skate over and ignore, or simply don’t understand, but the answer to which has profound implications for what we believe and how we practice the Christian faith ...

Do you believe in the ‘Fall’?

As a parish priest, first in England and now in Co. Clare, Ireland, whenever someone says to me ‘I don’t believe in God’ generally the first question I ask is “Define the God you don’t believe in’ and the second is ‘What do you mean by the word ‘believe’”?

Because all too often we use these words as if there is one agreed definition as to what they mean, but, in reality, we can all mean something quite different when we profess to believe or not believe in God.