In hour two, the guys chat Arlington National Cemetary, who is scrubbing Black and Women's history from the web and cemetery monuments, and also talk how the administration simply has a BAD view of the future - no view of how to make things better - only to revert, to the structure and culture of the 19th century. We talk with Brittney Merlot, taking a look at the (rainy!) weather to come today, and quickly chat about Republican's plan to bring their very own DOGE to Wisconsin. Later, we welcome in Mike McCabe for his weekly appearance, discussing his latest Substack article and Vertical Thinking - the idea that we have more in common with each other, and those on the other side of politics, than we do with the 1%.

Read Mike's blog at mikemccabe.blogspot.com!

The John and Gordy Show is a part of the Civic Media radio network and airs Monday through Friday from 6-8 am on WMDX in Madison. Subscribe to the podcast to be sure not to miss out on a single episode! To learn more about the show and all of the programming across the Civic Media network, head over to https://civicmedia.us/shows to see the entire broadcast line up. Follow the show on Facebook and X to keep up with John & Gordy!