Bill talks with Joseph Cirincione, President of The Ploughshares Fund (Ploughshares.org) and one of the nation's top experts on national security and nuclear policy. Joe explains how the killing of Iranian General Soleimani has already caused irreparable harm to U.S. interests from the Middle East to Europe to North Korea. That's before whatever hot conflict we are likely to get into with Iran.

Today's episode is sponsored by the IronWorkers Union, 120,000 members strong. (Ironworkers.org)

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