We talk to the pioneer of resilience engineering in the software world John Allspaw about how he discovered this world, and we answer a reader question together: does software need safety?

Correction: we thought this would be episode 3, but it ended up being 2, because of scheduling conflicts with guests...

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The introduction episode of This is Fine! A podcast about resilience engineering in the software world. Clint and Colette discuss conferences and a little bit of their history. Then they answer a question from a (prospective) listener: How do you politely ask executives/senior members of a company to step away from an incident...?