With this episode of Intercross the Podcast, we're excited to host the third iteration in our new cultural series where we explore the intersection of conflict and culture. In this episode we sit down with Hirad Abtahi. Since 2004, he has headed the Legal and Enforcement Unit of the Presidency of the International Criminal Court and has some twenty years of experience in international criminal justice. In addition, Hirad is a HUGE Star Wars fan. He recently published an article in the Huffington Post called "This is not the Jedi Way: Exploring International Humanitarian Law through Star Wars."

In this first part of a two part conversation, ICRC resident Star Wars experts Austin Shangraw and Erika Moyer speak with Hirad about what we can learn about the rules of war, and how they could possibly apply in a galaxy far, far away. Hosted by Austin Shangraw and Erika Moyer.

* As noted in the article, the views mentioned in these discussions are those of the author’s alone, in his personal capacity.