What good are privacy laws when we all know that intelligence agencies don’t play by the rules? How can any company promise to keep our data safe when we know that agencies like the NSA and GCHQ are hoovering it all up? That’s the essential argument behind the Max Schrems cases at the European Court of Justice. And the EU court agrees. In part 1 of my interview with EFF’s Danny O’Brien, we’ll talk about how we got here and how the parallel development of data mining and mass surveillance led us to these (successful) court challenges.

Danny O’Brien has been an activist for online free speech and privacy for over 20 years. In his home country of the UK, he fought against repressive anti-encryption law, and helped found the Open Rights Group, Britain’s own digital rights organization. He was EFF’s activist from 2005 to 2007, its international outreach coordinator from 2007-2009, and international director from 2013-2019. He now supervises EFF’s medium and long-term strategy, with an eye to maintaining the organization’s global impact and reputation.