In this episode of the This Lyric, That Truth podcast, Ceci interviews Alisa Childers, who shares her journey from growing up in the Christian music industry to facing a faith crisis and ultimately rebuilding her faith through study and exploration of theology. Alisa discusses her experiences with progressive Christianity, the deconstruction movement, and her transition into writing and speaking about these topics. She emphasizes the importance of understanding core Christian beliefs and discerning counterfeits in the faith community. In this conversation, Ceci and Alisa explore the complexities of faith in the age of social media, particularly focusing on the phenomenon of deconstruction. They discuss the importance of critical thinking, the challenges posed by echo chambers, and the need for meaningful engagement with differing ideas. Alisa shares strategies for maintaining relationships with those who are questioning their faith, emphasizing the importance of understanding and dialogue over confrontation. The conversation also touches on Alisa's personal journey into apologetics and the resources available for those seeking to navigate their faith amidst doubt.

The songs in today’s episode are three ZOEgirl songs: I

You can find Alisa’s books, podcast, and more on her website – www.alisachilders.com

Other books referenced:

The Mama Bear Apologetics

In this conversation, Ceci and Hannah Brencher, author of

Song: Honestly, We Just Need Jesus by Terrian

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In this episode of the Lyric That Truth podcast, Ceci

Song: Available by Elevation Worship 

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In this conversation, Pastor Joel Wayne from Chapel Pointe, shares insights about his journey in West Michigan, the dynamics of community, and the importance of worship. He emphasizes the need for a vertical focus in worship, the distinction between the upstream and downstream gospel, and how living a life of worship extends beyond church services. Pastor Joel encourages listeners to recognize their need for a savior and to prioritize their relationship with God over familial ties.

The lyrics are from Abide by Aaron Williams.

In this episode, Ceci and her husband Pastor Dave discuss

Song: I Will Be Here by Steven Curtis Chapman

Here are some of the resources Dave mentioned:

The Meaning of Marriage by Tim Keller

You and Me Forever by Francis Chan

Listen to episode 14 with Pastor Dave on being interruptible

In this behind-the-scenes episode of the This Lyric, That

This episode’s lyrics come from: Wind Beneath My Wings by

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In this conversation, Ceci and Abby discuss various topics,

The lyrics from today’s episode come from Chris Tomlin’s

Check out episode 8 with Abby Zeerip about God being in all the details.

You can find Abby and give her a follow on Instagram ⁠@zmamaloves⁠

In this episode of the This Lyric That Truth podcast, Ceci interviews musician Brandon Heath about his new album and the inspiration behind his songs. They discuss the lyrics that resonate with listeners, such as 'See Me Through It' and 'I'm Not Who I Was.' Brandon shares personal stories and experiences that influenced his songwriting. He also talks about his creative process and how he finds inspiration from everyday life, books, and conversations. The episode concludes with a discussion about Brandon's latest album, 'The Ache,' and his upcoming tour.

All the songs referenced in today’s episode are by Brandon

Check out Brandon’s backyard music series, Brandon’s Backyard.

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The lyrics from today’s episode are from Redeemed by Big Daddy Weave.

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In this episode, Pastor Dave and Jodi discuss the power

The lyrics in this episode are from Don’t Stop Praying by Matthew West

Here are the resources mentioned in this episode:
Lectio 365 App

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Deeper Journey retreats

Emotionally Healthy Spirituality book

Praying Like Monks, Living like Fools

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