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Bungie’s plans to bring back vaulted Destiny content have us talking. But is bringing back the past enough to give players a future?
AGreeNer, Wrecked and Abrams dig into the Destiny update, returning campaigns and raids, and where community expectations start running ahead of what was actually said. We debate whether old raids need new loot, what Destiny Legacy could mean, and whether anyone should feel obligated to play Marathon for Destiny’s sake.
Then we get into EA, BioWare and Mass Effect, where AI belongs in game development, why early access still counts as your first impression, and the Respawn/DICE shooter crossover we probably want a little too much.
Expect disagreements, a few corrections, and a reminder that playing a game because it’s fun is still allowed.
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Would you replay Destiny’s old raids without updated rewards, or does the loot need to come back too? Tell us below.
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Take the PvP out of an extraction shooter and everyone will be nice to each other. Right? Apparently we found a fucking loophole.
AGreeNer and M1 Abrams Tank get into ARC Raiders' PvE experiment, the body-checking nonsense, and whether adding PvE is actually what Marathon needs. Is a bigger audience the answer if you annoy the people who already love your game?
Before that, Agreener tells his side of the Railway security scare, the unexpected API bill, and the bot-repair marathon that followed. Then we're into Destiny's path forward, unvaulting and Red War nostalgia, Bungie rumors, and a very frustrated BioWare and Mass Effect conversation. There's a lot of love for those old games. There's also a lot of swearing.
We talk about why a good trailer isn't the same as a good game, what Anthem was missing, and how studios can lose the things that made us love them. Plus Cyberpunk, Call of Duty DMZ confusion, Battlefield's Dead Space crossover, Helldivers, release chatter, and the argument about what Game Pass success should actually mean.
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BACK AT SGC
Festival of the Shrouded mixes Destiny objectives with real-world Halloween photo bounties. Go do something creative. A very questionable ghost costume still got a mention, so the bar is apparently flexible.
We're also talking stream blocks and donation challenges for the upcoming charity stream. The on-air correction is 48 hours, with a longer stream depending on enough people signing up. Check the current community details before making plans. Birthday-stream ideas are still ideas. No promises of cake-related violence.
What would get you to try an extraction shooter's PvE mode? And what would make you stay? Tell us below.
This episode contains strong language, opinions, rumors and on-air corrections. The hosts discuss the stories as they understood them while recording.
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Destiny 2 ban waves, suspicious loot, and the worst possible reason to join a random fireteam. Yeah, we're getting into that.
AGreeNer and Wrecked talk through the reports of cheaters forcing loot and XP onto other players, then get into Marathon's upcoming reset and whether a fresh economy is enough to bring us back.
Meanwhile, No Man's Sky is October's featured SGC game, and its alliance system has picked a hell of a time to be difficult.
We've also got Jason Jones and Stonekite, a possible return to The Witcher 3, Naughty Dog and Uncharted rumors, AI in game development, Xbox studio concerns, Exodus, Resident Evil remakes, and the week's release chatter.
Plus a reminder to turn on Show All Channels in Discord before asking where the bounties went. Please. They're right there.
🎮 IN THIS EPISODE
• Destiny 2's ban wave and the forced-loot discussion
• No Man's Sky alliance problems, SGC bounties, and November nominations
• Marathon's reset, reward passes, and the social-space debate
• Stonekite, The Witcher 3, and leaving Nathan Drake alone
• AI tools, generative art, and where we draw the line
• Gears of War E-Day, Xbox studio concerns, Exodus, and more gaming chatter
• Community giveaway results, clan achievements, and Extra Life
🏆 SGC CHECK-IN
No Man's Sky is our October featured game. Use /bounties in Discord and make sure Show All Channels is enabled. Nominations for November's game are open through October 14.
Congrats to Shrouded Apex for finishing the clan quest first for the first time, and to the clans keeping their Diamond Dynasty streaks going.
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What would actually get you back into Marathon: the reset, more content, or something else? Let us know in the comments.
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Destiny fans finally got some genuinely good news.
Bungie is beginning work to restore vaulted Destiny 2 campaigns, destinations and raids, while also saying that Destiny has a future beyond this restoration project.
That's exciting.
But before everybody starts screaming DESTINY IS BACK, there are some pretty important details.
There is no Destiny 3 announcement.
There is no new expansion announcement.
There is no restoration release date.
And based on what's been communicated so far, Destiny 2 is not suddenly returning to the old live-service cadence either.
So Episode 164 of This Week at Shrouded is basically AGreener trying to get excited while Mr. Wrecked walks around with a giant bucket labeled TEMPER YOUR EXPECTATIONS.
We break down what Bungie actually promised, what people are assuming, what returning vaulted content could realistically look like, and why this may still be an important first step toward rebuilding trust with Destiny players.
Then we jump into Marathon, where Bungie is openly expanding beyond the original extraction-shooter vision with PvE, Team Deathmatch, new progression, new enemies, new zones and more approachable ways to play.
And that naturally turns into a much bigger argument:
Are hardcore extraction-shooter fans part of the reason these games struggle to grow?
PLUS:
🔥 ARC Raiders testing PvE-only matchmaking
🎮 Halo development changes
💰 Could a subscription model actually fix live-service content droughts?
🎬 Resident Evil continues performing well
⚔️ Fire Emblem impressions
🌌 No Man's Sky wins October Featured Game
🎟️ SGC Season 1: Destiny Reclaimed
🏆 Clan Quest updates
🎮 Weekly giveaway winners
🏁 SRL continues
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Marathon just threw its original seasonal plan out the window.
The major update originally planned for September has been folded into Symbiosis, now targeting December 8, while Bungie says it's moving away from rigid seasonal deadlines so major features can launch when they're actually ready.
Honestly?
That part might be good.
But it also makes December a VERY interesting moment for Marathon.
Episode 163 of This Week at Shrouded gets into the changes, the progression reset still coming in October, permanent PvE experiments, the Perimeter refresh, social-space additions, a new Runner shell, experimental Team Deathmatch and the bigger question hanging over Bungie:
What exactly comes next?
There's still Destiny speculation floating around, Paul Tassi's vague-posting saga continues, and one particularly weird Destiny/Marathon crossover rumor got publicly shot down.
Then BlizzCon decided to start announcing games from the fucking future.
😈 Diablo 5: 2029
🚀 New StarCraft shooter: 2030
We also dig into World of Warcraft Forever, Blizzard's Netflix plans, Warcraft III getting its first new campaign in more than two decades, Overwatch updates and the strange decision to announce sequels YEARS before they're actually coming out.
PLUS:
🔴 Wolverine finally launched after weeks of internet doomposting
🎮 Fire Emblem: Fortune's Weave
🌲 RuneScape: Dragonwilds 1.0
⚔️ Warframe: Operation Plague Star
🌴 Palworld
🥽 Valve's expensive new VR hardware
🎬 The new Resident Evil movie
🎮 Tokyo Game Show
🧟 Mind's Eye studio trouble
🏁 SGC racing and clan updates
🎟️ Weekly AND monthly SGC giveaway winners
⭐ Season Pass work continues
🎮 Featured Game voting is underway
🤖 More Game XP testing
And yes, Destiny is STILL one of the most active games inside Shrouded Gaming.
We're branching out.
We're not abandoning it.
Not yet, anyway.
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I'd rather wait longer for substantial updates than get half-baked content every three months.
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Sony basically won this console generation.
So why does it suddenly feel like the company keeps finding new ways to piss people off?
Episode 162 of This Week at Shrouded gets into Sony's increasingly strange decision-making, the Kojima project discussion, cancelled live-service games, PlayStation's current first-party direction and the bigger problem facing AAA gaming: publishers seem completely unsure what they actually want their business to become.
AGreener and Mr. Wrecked also dig into Bungie's latest situation. The studio is looking to sublease more of its massive Bellevue campus, Destiny still has no meaningful new announcement, Paul Tassi is vague-posting again, and supposedly leaked Pastebin material paints a picture of constantly shifting ideas inside Bungie.
Emphasis on supposedly.
We're not treating anonymous leaks as gospel.
Meanwhile, Mr. Wrecked may finally have reached his Destiny breaking point after thousands upon thousands of hours.
Then Nintendo shows up with considerably happier news.
The latest Nintendo Direct includes a new Metroid, Persona 6, more Switch 2 releases and a full Ocarina of Time remake alongside Zelda's 40th anniversary hardware.
Also discussed:
🎮 The state of AAA gaming
🤦 Sony and Xbox somehow both fumbling
☁️ Cloud gaming restrictions
🟢 Nintendo doing Nintendo things
⚔️ Ocarina of Time returns
🔫 War Dogs' extremely rough launch day
🤔 The streamer priority-queue conspiracy
🔥 Onimusha: Way of the Sword impressions
🌲 Valheim 1.0
🤖 AI and game development
🎟️ SGC Season Pass plans
📈 Game XP testing
✨ New animated Profile Auras
🏁 Sparrow Racing League updates
And yes, Warframe and Palworld remain SGC Featured Games, future full Season Passes are currently planned around a larger structure, and there's even more profile and progression work happening behind the scenes.
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State of Play had plenty of games to show. The chat kept asking for Destiny 3.
In Episode 161 of This Week at Shrouded, AGreener and Mr. Wrecked discuss the Destiny demands flooding showcase chats, the Paul Tassi follow-up read during the show, and what would actually count as good news for the community. More support for Destiny 2? Something entirely new? Another remaster? We have opinions, but this is a conversation about possibilities, not a confirmed comeback.
Then we get into a different problem: why do we keep finishing games we've stopped enjoying?
From Final Fantasy VII Rebirth's side-content burnout to Fable's length debate and The Blood of the Dawnwalker's timer-mod controversy, we argue about whether more content actually makes a better game. Is removing a restriction improving your experience, or removing the reason your choices matter? And is Greener really a completionist, or does he just want the damn platinum trophy?
Our State of Play reactions also cover Final Fantasy VII Revelation, Jin Sakai's return, Metro 2039, and Monster Hunter Wilds. Elsewhere, we discuss the Gamescom theft reports, the SteamDB/Nexus Mods debate, and why a concurrent-player graph shouldn't decide whether you're allowed to enjoy something.
Mr. Wrecked also shares his Crimson Moon impressions: enjoyable gameplay, frustrating camera and control issues, and a co-op progression complaint that immediately gets us going.
On the community side, we're celebrating $120,012.10 raised for charity across SGC's lifetime. Thank you to the donors, stream volunteers, and everyone who helped make that happen.
We also cover Warframe and Palworld's featured-game bonuses, Season Pass 0.5 feedback and prestige rewards, the switch to additive loyalty multipliers, and the ten-team Sparrow Racing League. Team registration is closed; the episode explains the exhibition-bounty option for everyone else.
What would a worthwhile Destiny announcement look like to you: renewed Destiny 2 support, a new game, or something else entirely?
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Something weird is happening around Destiny.
No, Destiny 3 hasn't been announced.
No, there isn't a confirmed Destiny 1 remake.
And no, Bungie hasn't announced that Destiny 2 development is suddenly restarting.
So why have Destiny creators started acting like they're communicating exclusively through riddles?
Bungie has rehired game-capture artists as freelancers. Aztecross suddenly booted up Marathon after previously saying he wasn't interested unless Destiny had a future. Paul Tassi mentioned there being "smoke." Other creators started dropping their own suspicious posts.
And now everyone is asking the same question:
Do they actually know something?
Episode 160 of This Week at Shrouded dives straight into the Destiny copium as AGreener and Mr. Wrecked try to figure out whether anything is actually happening, whether creators are simply trolling everyone, or whether Sony and Bungie might genuinely be reconsidering Destiny's future.
And that's only the beginning.
🎮 GAMESCOM absolutely exploded with news.
The Witcher 3 is getting another major comeback with Songs of the Past, modernization improvements and more.
Metro 2039 has a release date.
Path of Exile 2 finally has its 1.0 date.
Gears of War: E-Day showed up again.
Final Fantasy VII Revelation got another trailer.
And a pile of new games, release dates and surprises landed at once.
Then there's The Division 2, which apparently has decided it simply cannot die.
Red Horizon is here, there are new seasonal systems and Exotics, the Dark Zone is getting major changes, Echoes of Central Park is coming, Survivors is bringing back ideas from The Division's Survival mode, and Ubisoft somehow has even MORE planned.
Meanwhile:
🔵 Destiny creators suddenly start vague-posting
👀 Bungie rehires game-capture artists
🤔 Destiny 3? Destiny 1 remake? Destiny 2 revival?
🟢 Marathon Season 3 overhauls Perimeter
🗺️ Bigger Marathon areas and new encounters
🎮 GTA 6 gets new gameplay footage
🚨 Rockstar continues dealing with massive GTA 6 leaks
🐺 The Witcher 3 returns AGAIN
🎵 Songs of the Past expansion
⚔️ Witcher 3 modernization and upgrades
🚇 Metro 2039
🔥 Path of Exile 2 hits 1.0
⚙️ Gears of War: E-Day
🟠 The Division 2: Red Horizon
🌳 Echoes of Central Park
❄️ The Division 2: Survivors
☣️ PvE Toxic Dark Zone
💀 Blackout Dark Zone
🔫 New Division Exotics
🤖 ARC Raiders Expedition changes
❄️ Frozen Trail approaches
✈️ Battlefield 6 x Top Gun
🔫 Borderlands 4 Story Pack 2
🎮 Plus a ridiculous number of Gamescom announcements and upcoming releases
AND there's a ton happening inside Shrouded Gaming.
🏁 The SGC Sparrow Racing League is getting ready to begin
🎁 Profile Cards, loyalty points and potentially real prizes are on the line
❤️ The annual SGC Fall Guys Extra Life event is locked for November 7
🔥 The 48-Hour Extra Life Stream is approaching
⭐ The SGC Season Pass testing period is LIVE
🏆 Prestige levels let you continue earning after reaching max rank
🎟️ Loyalty Points, tickets, Media Points and Community Player rewards are packed into the system
🎮 September Featured Games are Warframe and Palworld
🔥 Featured Games will receive additional bonuses
🏰 EIGHT clans completed their entire Clan Quest boards in one week
There is a LOT happening.
But let's be real.
We all want to know one thing:
Are these Destiny creators actually teasing something... or are we all just smoking the same copium?
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ARC Raiders is about to get its biggest update since launch.
Frozen Trail arrives October 8, and this doesn't sound like another small content drop.
We're talking about a completely new settlement beyond the mountains, villages, factories, research facilities, an observatory, much more vertical exploration, new ARC enemies, a huge high-level ARC operation, new weapons, customization, gadgets, progression changes and an entirely new Outpost system.
It sounds great.
But there's one much bigger question:
Is it enough to bring players back?
Episode 159 of This Week at Shrouded is packed with gaming news as AGreener and Mr. Wrecked break down what Frozen Trail could mean for ARC Raiders and whether two major updates per year can keep the game moving long term.
Then somehow The Division 2 woke up.
Broken Rain introduces a new four-player incursion, new rewards, an Exotic ACR, another mission, boosted XP and more, all while Ubisoft prepares for a big Gamescom appearance.
So naturally...
Division 3 announcement incoming?
Maybe.
We also get into a huge Overwatch update featuring the new tank Demon, a completely redesigned Battle Pass structure, customizable reward paths, old Battle Pass content potentially returning and Blizzard seemingly moving away from pure FOMO.
And then Amazon basically says goodbye to MMOs.
New World is heading toward shutdown, while Western operations for Lost Ark and Throne and Liberty are moving elsewhere.
Turns out unlimited money doesn't automatically make a successful MMO.
PLUS:
❄️ ARC Raiders: Frozen Trail
🏠 The new ARC Raiders Outpost system
🤖 New ARC enemies and high-level activities
🔥 Can Frozen Trail bring former players back?
🟠 The Division 2: Broken Rain
👀 Division 3 at Gamescom?
🛡️ Overwatch's new tank, Demon
🎟️ Overwatch completely rebuilds its Battle Pass
🔓 Old Battle Pass rewards could return
🌴 Palworld's latest quality-of-life update
🔫 Battlefield 6 prepares for Top Gun and Wake Island
🆓 Battlefield 6 gets a free trial week
😈 Diablo IV PTR discussion
⚔️ Diablo II: Resurrected's next ladder
🎮 Gears of War: E-Day open beta
🪖 Hell Let Loose: Vietnam
💀 Amazon gives up on MMOs
📀 Are physical games actually dying?
🎮 Does owning a disc really mean owning a game forever?
And, of course, there's a ton happening inside Shrouded Gaming.
🏆 Player of the Month improvements
🎴 New Player of the Month Profile Cards
📜 Historical community winners now tracked back to 2021
🌴 Our Palworld server has moved to a new host
💾 Everyone's Palworld progress survived the move
🏁 The SGC Sparrow Racing Exhibition Season continues
🎟️ Weekly community giveaways continue
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Would Frozen Trail actually convince you to reinstall ARC Raiders?
Or did you already get everything you wanted out of the game?
Tell us below.
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Destiny’s vaulted content is coming back!
...Except not really.
A community project has managed to use an old Season of Arrivals build of Destiny 2 to access destinations and spaces that disappeared when Beyond Light launched. You can explore them, move through old loading zones, use abilities, ride Sparrows and revisit places that haven't been accessible for years.
But before everybody starts celebrating the return of the Red War and Leviathan...
There are no functional missions. No encounters. No enemies. No NPCs. No working raid mechanics.
So what exactly DID they bring back?
That leads off a packed Episode 158 of This Week at Shrouded as AGreener and Mr. Wrecked catch up on everything that happened while we were away.
We also recap GCX 2026 and ask whether the convention actually delivered the huge Destiny celebration it had been marketed as. The Destiny retrospective had some genuinely great moments, the theater was packed, and the community clearly still cares deeply about the game.
But for a supposed major Destiny farewell?
We expected more.
Then we get into Marathon's Vault Breaker PvE experiment, why Bungie extended it, what it could mean for Season 3, and why adding PvE does NOT suddenly mean Marathon is becoming some sort of Destiny replacement.
Elsewhere this week:
🎮 Destiny 2's community-built Content Vault project
🏛️ Revisiting Leviathan, Io, Titan and other vaulted destinations
🎤 Our GCX 2026 recap
🏁 GCX Sparrow Racing League
❤️ The Destiny retrospective and its emotional farewell moments
🔥 Iron Banner and the continuing SGC bounty system
🔫 Marathon's Vault Breaker PvE mode
🤔 Why Marathon isn't becoming Destiny 3
🌊 Warframe Dog Days 2026
⚔️ Is Warframe actually the best destination for former Destiny players?
😈 Diablo IV Season 15 PTR changes and some enormous potential nerfs
🟣 Mythic crafting getting significantly easier in Diablo IV
🚢 Battlefield 6, Wake Island and expanded naval warfare
🎮 Custom Battlefield lobbies and spectator tools
🏢 EA's future under private ownership
💰 Why annual sports games and Call of Duty keep getting away with it
🕹️ League of Legends Classic
🌴 Palworld's latest update and the SGC Palworld server
👀 The Division's suspicious Gamescom tease
🚶 Big Walk
💥 Halo: Campaign Evolved
⚙️ The Gears of War: E-Day beta
PLUS, Shrouded Gaming has been busy.
🏁 The SGC Sparrow Racing League is underway
🎴 Profile Cards have expanded into a full community reward system
🏆 New cards are available for bounties, game time, events and achievements
❤️ Charity donations can now unlock profile cosmetics
🔗 The new /charity integration is live
🌐 The personalized Shrouded Gaming Charity Hub is online
🎮 The new Featured Game system is being tested
🔥 AND the 48-Hour Extra Life Stream has officially been unlocked!
Shrouded Gaming is still playing Destiny.
We're just making sure there's a whole lot more to do too.
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What do you think?
Would simply being able to walk around Destiny's vaulted destinations be enough to make you try the community project, or do you only care if the missions, enemies and activities eventually become playable?
Let us know below.
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