Thomas Jefferson—writer of the Declaration of Independence, founding father, and absolute king of contradictions. He preached small government but flexed executive power whenever it suited him. He wantedeconomic independence but wrecked trade with the Embargo Act of 1807 (which backfired hard). And let’s not forget the Barbary Wars, where Mr. “No Standing Armies” suddenly had zero problem sending in themilitary.

In this episode, Eric and Kyle break down Jefferson’s messypresidency—from his legendary feud with Alexander Hamilton to the treaties that shaped early U.S. diplomacy. The Jay Treaty and Treaty of San Lorenzo? Crucial for trade.

The Chesapeake-Leopard Affair? A major oops that helped push the U.S. toward the War of 1812.

Jefferson’s time in office was anything but smooth, but onething’s for sure—whether he was a genius, a hypocrite, or just really good at winging it, his legacy is still wildly debated.

Was he a mastermind or just making it up as he went? Hitplay and let’s get into it.

"Fife and Drum" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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