Those Weekend Golf Guys

Those Weekend Golf Guys

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Those Weekend Golf Guys episodes

  • Golf Rules: Because Common Sense Was Busy

    • Divot Repair Madness

    Jeff kicks things off with his long‑standing gripe: why on earth can’t you fix a divot in the fairway? We can repair the green like surgeons, but the fairway — the place you’re supposed to hit the ball — is apparently sacred ground. John shares a video of two British golfers arguing about divot definitions like they’re rewriting the Magna Carta, and both guys agree the logic is… let’s call it “creative.”

    • The 10‑Club Proposal (aka: No, Thank You)

    Next up: the Brits again, suggesting golfers should be limited to ten clubs. John wonders why anyone needs a rule to do what they could already do voluntarily, and Jeff admits he played months without an 8‑iron and barely noticed. The conclusion? If you want to carry ten clubs, great — but don’t make it a rule for everyone else.

    • Golf Ball Markings & Putter Alignment Rules

    The guys dig into proposed restrictions on ball markings and alignment aids. Jeff questions whether these rules would apply to manufacturer‑printed graphics or just hand‑drawn lines. John wonders who exactly is being protected by making putting harder. The consensus: these changes feel like solutions in search of a problem.

    • Out‑of‑Bounds Rule Update

    Jeff explains the new O.B. option: instead of the dreaded walk of shame back to the tee, players can now drop two club lengths inside the boundary with a two‑stroke penalty. It speeds up play and encourages people to actually follow the rule — which is good, because most golfers were already “creatively interpreting” stroke‑and‑distance anyway.

    • Penalties, Scorecards, and Golf’s Integrity

    The episode wraps with a chat about penalty fairness and the tradition of signing scorecards. Jeff argues penalties should match the severity of the mistake, and both guys agree that signing a card is still one of the last bastions of honesty in competitive golf.


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    37 min
  • Why Hockey Players Keep Beating Us at Golf

    Jeff and John got rolling on all things golf, bouncing from putting to fairways to the little tweaks that actually shave strokes. Jeff went deep on the putting side — talking eye dominance, why speed control is king, and why three‑putting is basically donating strokes to the golf gods. They even wandered into the wild world of side‑saddle putting, mostly to remind everyone why almost nobody sticks with it.

    From there, they hit on full‑swing strategy: knowing your real distances (not the ones you brag about), picking the right club for the lie, and respecting wind like it’s a living, breathing opponent. And of course, they had to mention how hockey players keep showing up and embarrassing everyone with their natural golf swings.

    Jeff sprinkled in wisdom from his golf schools, hammering home the basics — hit more fairways, control your speed on the greens, and stop pretending your 7‑iron goes 185.

    Naturally, the guys drifted into some classic off‑course chatter too: food delivery disasters, sports announcers who drive them nuts, and a little college sports talk for good measure.

    And yes, John wrapped things up with a nod to FanDuel, reminding listeners to fire up the app if they’re feeling lucky.

    Jeff and John dive into a full round of golf talk — from putting fundamentals to fairway strategy and everything in between. Jeff breaks down why speed control is the real secret to better putting, how eye dominance affects alignment, and why most golfers should stay far, far away from side‑saddle putting.

    They get into the nuts and bolts of scoring better: hit more fairways, know your actual club distances, and factor in wind, lie, and slope instead of pretending they don’t exist. The guys also have fun with the ongoing trend of hockey players dominating golf, thanks to their balance, rotation, and hand‑eye skills.

    Jeff pulls from his golf schools to highlight the biggest amateur mistakes — three‑putting, bad club selection, and fantasy‑land yardages.

    Off the course, the conversation drifts into food delivery mishaps, sports announcers who make them crazy, and a little college sports banter.

    Presented by FanDuel, with John reminding listeners to fire up the app and get in the game.


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    40 min
  • Mold, Maddux & Mallets: A Very Golf Guys Episode

    Golf, Weather & Other Things Trying to Kill the Game

    John and Scott kick things off talking about the kind of heat and humidity that makes Florida golf feel like you’re playing inside a crockpot. Scott mentions mold — actual mold — growing on courses, because apparently Florida grass has decided to become a biology experiment.
    Jody Mudd, Mac O’Grady, Greg Maddux… the guys bounce through golf legends and oddballs until Jeff jumps in with a story about Maddux asking him for swing help at a tournament. Because of course Greg Maddux wants to get even better at something.
    John and Jeff brag (modestly… okay not modestly) about their recent FanDuel wins — Texas, Oklahoma State, Louisville, Ole Miss — basically everything except the teams you bet on.
    Jeff talks about the charity tournament at Pine Canyon where he ran into half of Major League Baseball and a couple NBA guys. The conversation detours into Indiana basketball history and Gus Johnson yelling things at high volume, because that’s what Gus Johnson does.

    Which Athletes Make the Best Golfers?

    Jeff lays out his official rankings:

    Hockey players — apparently if you can slap a frozen rubber disc at 100 mph, you can hit a golf ball.

    Tennis players — footwork, rotation, anger management… they’ve got it all.
    Baseball pitchers — elite sequencing and way too much free time between starts.

    Jeff shares a story about a pitcher who got better the moment Jeff stopped trying to “fix” him and instead let his swing match his natural throwing motion.

    Sometimes the best coaching is just getting out of the way.

    Athlete Psychology: Why They Hate Lessons

    John brings up his other show, The Approach Shot, and how athletes — even ones with 12 coaches per game — suddenly turn into stubborn toddlers when you suggest a golf lesson.
    Jeff adds that one pitcher told him he hits golf balls 10 times more often than he throws pitches.
    And the feel of a good golf swing reminded him of his favorite pitch.
    That’s why pitchers get good fast: reps, reps, reps.

    Swing Fixes, Hickory Clubs & Louisville Golf Nostalgia

    Jeff shares a setup tweak that instantly improved a player’s swing — just moving the feet and letting the body do what it already knows.
    John and Scott go down a fun rabbit hole about Louisville Golf, persimmon heads, hickory shafts, and the revival of hickory tournaments.
    Because nothing says “I love golf” like willingly making the game harder.

    Grass Talk: Bermuda vs. Paspalum

    Florida courses are ripping out Bermuda and putting in Paspalum, and Scott explains why that changes everything.
    Short game on Paspalum?
    You fly it.
    Short game on Bermuda?
    You chip it.
    Short game on either?
    Most golfers panic. Jeff points out that players struggle because they try to use the same technique everywhere — and grass does not care about your feelings.

    Chipping on Difficult Grass

    Jeff breaks down:

    The hook chip

    The slide technique with a gap wedge
    How to use bounce without digging a trench
    Scott backs him up with stories from a South Florida seminar where instructors basically said, “Stop trying to be fancy — hit the center of the face.”

    Fast greens + grabby grass = more people putting from 40 yards out.

    And honestly, sometimes that’s the right call.
    Leading Edges, Hybrids & Putter Geekery
    Jeff gets into the weeds (literally) about leading‑edge design:

    Rounded edges = forgiveness

    Sharp edges = sadness, especially on Bermuda

    He talks about modern putters with weight shoved forward and softer edges to help the ball behave.
    Scott jumps in with the “match the putter to the stroke” sermon, noting that even tour players struggle with putting.
    Lead tape, grip tweaks, prototype teardrop putters — it’s all on the table.


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    48 min
  • Uphill Lies, Downhill Lies, and the Lies You Tell Yourself

    Lesson Tee vs. On‑Course Work

    Jeff breaks down the difference:
    Lesson tee = mechanics
    On-course = thinking
    Golfers get in trouble because they grab a club based solely on yardage. Jeff explains why 155 yards is NOT always a six‑iron—especially when there’s wind, elevation, trouble in front, or a lie that changes loft.

    • Becoming Your Own Caddy

    Jeff urges golfers to talk to themselves like a caddy would:
    Is long better than short?
    Is left better than right?
    What’s the wind doing up there, not just at your ankles?
    Most golfers toss grass in the air and pretend it means something. Jeff explains why that’s adorable… and useless.

    The Invisible Enemy: Wind

    Jeff goes deep on how wind affects ball flight:
    Wedges balloon and stall
    Trees tell the truth
    Clouds tell the real truth

    Ground wind ≠ sky wind

    Rule of thumb: whatever you feel at ground level, it’s worse up where your ball is flying.

    • Lies That Lie to You

    Uphill lie? Adds loft.
    Downhill lie? Takes loft away.
    Jeff explains how to brace the downhill leg, match shoulder tilt to the slope, and choose the right club so your six‑iron doesn’t suddenly become a four‑iron or an eight‑iron.

    • Rough Reality Check

    If the ball is sitting down, your six‑iron is a fantasy. Jeff walks through how to test the grass, choose the longest club with enough loft to cut through, and why the ball should NOT be shoved back in your stance unless you enjoy hitting low screamers.

    Football Break – FanDuel Accuracy & Michigan’s “Extra Second”

    John and Jeff take a detour into college football, roasting Michigan’s infamous “extra second,” praising FanDuel’s spooky accuracy, and sharing stories about Indiana fans who sometimes forget they have a football team.

    • Closing – Off to Sedona

    Jeff heads off to Oak Creek Golf Course for desert-style teaching, psychic energy, and maybe aliens. John stays in the studio where the wind is controlled and the lies are only metaphorical.


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    42 min
  • Bad Teachers, Broken Swings, and Why Jeff Drinks

    00:00 – Cold Open: “So… You Changed Teachers, Didn’t You?”

    Jeff warms up with a couple of cautionary tales about students who wandered off and came back with swings that looked like they’d been assembled by IKEA.

    03:12 – Why Picking the Right Instructor Matters

    We dive into the big truth: golf instruction isn’t one‑size‑fits‑all. If your teacher thinks it is, run. Fast.

    07:45 – The Franken‑Swing Files

    Jeff breaks down how well‑meaning golfers get turned into confused pretzels when instructors force them into positions their bodies simply can’t do.

    12:10 – Grip, Stance, Ball Position: The “It Depends” Fundamentals

    A lively rant on why fundamentals aren’t commandments — they’re adjustable tools that must fit you, not the instructor’s favorite tour player.

    17:30 – Golf Courses: Environmental Villains or Community Heroes?

    We take a detour (because of course we do) into water usage, economics, and why golf courses aren’t the bad guys people think they are.
    22:55 – How to Choose a Teacher Who Won’t Break You
    Jeff lays out the criteria: look for instructors with a track record of improving all kinds of golfers, not disciples of a single swing religion.

    28:40 – Sneak Peek: Jeff’s Top 100 Teacher Conference Talk

    A preview of Jeff’s upcoming presentation on ball position — why it matters, why most golfers get it wrong, and why fixing it changes everything.

    32:00 – Final Thoughts: Your Swing, Your Body, Your Teacher

    We wrap with the big takeaway: find a coach who teaches you, not their system.


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    46 min
  • Jeff Played Pebble Beach. John Played… Whatever Was Open

    John’s in the studio, holding down the fort like a man who hasn’t seen daylight since Tuesday, while Jeff is literally driving through the desert on his way back to Flagstaff — still high on the fumes of a three‑day golf binge on the Monterey Peninsula. And not just any golf binge. Oh no. Jeff went full “bucket‑list flex” and knocked out Pebble Beach, Clint Eastwood’s super‑secret Tehama, and the mythical unicorn of golf courses, Cypress Point.

    Jeff breaks it all down with the excitement of a kid who just found out recess is now three hours long. Pebble’s wind tried to knock him over. Tehama’s hills tried to roll him back down to sea level. Cypress Point was so gorgeous it should’ve come with a warning label. And the man played each round with one golf ball. One. Per. Day. That’s not golf — that’s wizardry.

    Naturally, the boys detoured into college football, because it’s early season and everybody’s already losing their minds over rankings that don’t matter yet. Jeff and John talk matchups, meltdowns, and why Week 1 is basically a giant Rorschach test for fanbases.

    Then Jeff flips into full instructor mode — breaking down how to survive golf on hilly terrain without looking like you’re auditioning for a blooper reel. Ball above feet, ball below feet, uphill, downhill, stance tweaks, shoulder tilt… all the stuff that keeps you from chunking it like you’re digging for truffles.

    They wrap things up with a shoutout to FanDuel Sportsbook, plus a tease about future listener golf trips. Because if Jeff can get onto Cypress Point, maybe — just maybe — you can too. Or at least you can hear Jeff brag about it again.


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    40 min
  • How to Spot a Sandbagger Before He Steals Your Gift Card

    What Sandbagging Actually Looks Like

    Jeff breaks down the most common sandbagging tactics he’s seen in the wild, including:

    Forward‑tee manipulation — playing casual rounds from the up tees, then submitting those scores for handicap calculation.

    Intentional bad lies — dropping balls into rough, roots, or hazards “just to see what happens,” conveniently inflating scores.

    Penalty‑stroke amnesia — magically forgetting to count OB, water balls, or unplayable situations.

    Casual‑round heroics, tournament miracles — mysteriously shooting 10–12 shots better only when prizes are on the line.

    Jeff’s take: real low‑handicap players win net tournaments. If the 18‑handicap is suddenly posting net 63s, something smells like week‑old range balls.

    How to Spot a Sandbagger

    The guys talk through the tells:

    Look at club championship history — who consistently performs way above their stated handicap.

    Compare casual‑round scoring vs. tournament scoring — massive gaps are red flags.

    Watch for “I never play this well” miracles — especially when they happen every time a trophy or gift card is involved.

    Cheating Stories That Make You Shake Your Head

    Jeff shares two jaw‑dropping incidents:

    The Fake Hole‑in‑One — a golfer pre‑placed his ball in the cup before the group arrived, then “found” it. The only thing missing was confetti and a marching band.

    The Vaseline Driver Guy — a player secretly applied Vaseline to his driver face to reduce spin and straighten shots. Creative? Yes. Legal? Absolutely not.

    The Rule: Confront Cheaters Immediately

    Jeff’s message is blunt and correct:
    If you witness cheating, you must call it out right away.
    Not later. Not after the round. Not “I didn’t want to make things awkward.”
    Integrity only survives if honest players defend it in the moment.

    Road‑Trip Vibes

    All of this unfolds while Jeff is literally driving through Arizona, proving once again that he can teach, rant, and diagnose golf pathology even while navigating desert highways.


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    45 min
  • Tillinghast, Travel Tales & Courses That Fight Back

    John checks in fresh off a trip to Maine, where the lobster is great and the golf is classic New England. Jeff counters with his time teaching at the ultra‑exclusive Yellowstone Club in Montana — mountain golf, thin air, and views that make you forget you just chunked a wedge.

    Donald Ross & The Art of Greens That Make You Cry

    The guys dive into Donald Ross’s legendary greens — the ones that look innocent until your ball starts rolling like it’s late for a meeting. They compare Ross’s style with Pete Dye’s “I dare you” intimidation and McKenzie’s artistic, flowing layouts.
    Jeff previews his upcoming West Coast McKenzie tour, which John immediately tries to invite himself on.

    Renovations, Reconstructions & Golden Age Reboots

    Jeff talks Spyglass renovations and a reconstructed McKenzie course in Wisconsin. John wonders what it would be like to play a 1920s design built with modern machinery — old strategy meets new bulldozers.

    The Lido, Sand Valley & Modern Classics

    The guys geek out over the original Lido — a C.B. MacDonald/McKenzie/Raynor masterpiece — and its modern recreation at Sand Valley. They hit on courses that became famous fast:
    Bandon Dunes
    Whistling Straits
    Payne’s Valley (aka “Tiger’s scenic roller coaster”)

    The Tillinghast Tour Idea

    Jeff rattles off Tillinghast courses like he’s reading from a phone book. John suggests a “Tillinghast Tour,” the golf‑nerd equivalent of following the Grateful Dead around the country. They compare it to Dye, Palmer, and Norman tours and swap favorite designer quotes — including Rocco Mediate’s classic Dye jab.

    Design Philosophy & How Not to Get Tricked

    Jeff breaks down fairway bunkering, hidden landing zones, and greens that wiggle like a toddler on sugar. They talk about how caddies can save your round on visually deceptive layouts — assuming you actually listen to them.

    Mountain Golf & Wildlife Cameos

    Jeff shares stories from Pine Canyon in Flagstaff, where the scenery is gorgeous and the wildlife occasionally decides it owns the fairway.

    The Big Idea: East‑to‑West Golf Trip

    John pitches an October RV golf adventure from the East Coast to the West Coast. Jeff pretends to think about it. John invites Chris Mascaro to join a future show, because every good golf trip needs at least one guy who brings snacks.


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    44 min
  • He Played His Best Round With a Broken Ankle — Science Explains Why
    0:00 – Cold Open / Welcome
    • John and Jeff kick off the show, presented by FanDuel.
    • Introduce guest Dr. Fredric Abramson — “smartest guy in any room… except maybe this one.”
    • 2:00 – Abramson’s Background & Injury Story
      • Former athlete, tried out for the Pittsburgh Pirates.
      • Broke his ankle at Michigan… then played his best golf round ever with a cast.
      • Jeff explains why the locked‑up left leg actually improved his swing.
      • 6:00 – The Origin of the DNA Injury Test
        • Meeting with Philip Morris CEO: “Americans want to die healthy.”
        • Abramson decides genetics should help people live better, not just diagnose disease.
        • Human Genome Project inspires practical injury‑prediction research.
        • 10:00 – How the Test Works
          • Simple cheek swab — no blood, kid‑friendly, mail‑anywhere.
          • Uses Illumina testing (same as 23andMe).
          • Identifies genetic markers linked to injury susceptibility.
          • Example: 8 known markers for concussion risk.
          • 15:00 – Break / GhostBed Ad
            • John explains why GhostBed keeps you cool and pain‑free.
            • Promo code: golfguys.
            • 17:00 – FanDuel Segment
              • College sports talk: Indiana football hype, Michigan rivalry jokes.
              • John threatens to ban Ohio State grads from the show.
              • 20:00 – Injury Prediction for Golfers
                • Back injuries most common in younger, high‑speed players.
                • Older golfers deal with accumulated life injuries.
                • DNA could help adjust swing load, warm‑ups, and training.
                • 23:00 – Precision Nutrition
                  • Abramson holds the first patent in precision nutrition.
                  • Matching diet to DNA to improve recovery and reduce injury risk.
                  • 25:00 – Future Tech: AI Swing Analysis
                    • Planned mobile app:
                      • Upload swing video
                      • AI analyzes injury risk
                      • 3D body mapping
                      • Nutrition + genetics + mechanics combined
                      • 28:00 – John’s Knee & Thursday Tee Time
                        • John asks if the test can help him by Thursday.
                        • Abramson: “Not yet — still a startup.”
                        • 30:00 – COVID Humor & Teaching Background
                          • Abramson lost his sense of smell after COVID.
                          • Corona beer joke.
                          • More banter about sports longevity and golf as a lifelong game.
                          • 33:00 – Closing Thoughts
                            • Golfers could play longer, safer, and smarter with DNA‑based injury prediction.
                            • Jeff imagines entire institutes jumping on this tech.
                            • Wrap‑up and tease future conversations.

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                              41 min
                            • The Orchestra of Negativity (And How to Turn It Off)

                              What We Covered

                              Golf exposes your inner dialogue

                              Jim explains why your brain is louder than your driver — and how to quiet it.

                              One shot at a time (seriously)

                              Scorecards drag you into the past and future. Jim says stay here, now, with this shot.

                              Tension kills swings

                              A tight mind creates a tight body. We talk breathing, relaxing focus, and resetting your system.

                              Recovery > perfection

                              Jeff’s “spectator technique” helps you detach from bad shots instead of spiraling.

                              The orchestra of negativity

                              Too many swing thoughts = mental noise. Jim shows how to become your own “internal master.”

                              Identity vs. score

                              You are not your number. Jim breaks down how to separate self-worth from performance.

                              Golf as life in 18 chapters

                              Every hole is a new challenge — and a new chance to respond instead of react.

                              Why You’ll Love This Episode

                              If you’ve ever walked off a green muttering to yourself, gripping the club like it owes you money, or predicting your doom based on the first three holes… this episode is your antidote. Jim gives you tools you can use today, and we add the usual Golf Guys flavor: honesty, humor, and a little self‑deprecation.


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                              54 min

                            About Those Weekend Golf Guys

                            From the publisher's feed

                            Take a Golf Magazine Top 100 teacher, Jeff Smith ( (http://jeffsmithgolfinstruction.com) and pair him with an outstanding radio personality and you have the formula for one helluva Golf Talk Radio…

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