Those Weekend Golf Guys

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  • Bounce Back Better: The Wedge Game That Saves Strokes

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    This week on The Weekend Golf Guys, John and Jeff are back together after Jeff's trip to California for the Top 100 Teacher Conference. Jeff shares what he learned from some of the game's best instructors, including why golfers need to separate teaching trends from techniques that actually improve scores.

    Along the way, the guys discuss a bizarre television story involving golf cheating, exclusive country clubs, and a hole-in-one contest gone terribly wrong.

    Then it's all about the short game.

    Jeff dives deep into one of the most misunderstood areas of golf equipment and instruction: wedge selection. Learn why bounce angles matter, how sole grinds affect performance, and why carrying wedges with different characteristics can make a huge difference from fairways, rough, tight lies, and bunkers.

    You'll also hear:

    • A simple approach to tight-lie chipping
    • Why proper setup beats simply gripping down
    • How bounce really works in sand and turf
    • The benefits of building a wedge system instead of buying wedges one at a time
    • Practice tips to become more versatile around the greens
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      f you're tired of chunked chips, inconsistent wedge shots, and wasted strokes inside 100 yards, this episode is for you.

      Because the fastest way to lower your scores isn't hitting it farther. It's getting up and down more often. ️️‍️


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      40 min
    • Punch Shots, Ego Shots & One Bad Joke

      Larry the Cable Guy Drops a New Joke John shares a fresh, never‑before‑told Larry the Cable Guy joke from his interview on The Approach Shot. The guys discuss Larry’s golf game, his left‑handed swing, and why he keeps getting invited back to celebrity tournaments.

      • Celebrity Golf Tournaments: Skill Optional Scott and Jeff talk about the American Century Championship shifting from “good players” to “good celebrities,” and why some legitimately great golfers don’t get invited back.

      • Weather That Makes Golf Questionable (But We Still Play) Stories of 60‑mph winds, balls rolling off greens, and John’s legendary 300‑yard three‑wood courtesy of Hurricane Ike. Also: the moment when golfers finally admit, “Maybe we should go inside.”

      • Punch Shots, Knockdowns & Stingers — What’s the Difference? Jeff and Scott break down the real mechanics behind low‑flight shots, how Tiger learned them, and why amateurs confuse all three. Great tips on ball position, finish height, and choking down on the club.

      • Driver Off the Deck: Yes, You Can Technique talk: sweeping the ball, choking down, standing closer, and hitting it off a “pane of glass.” Plus, when it’s actually smart to pull off this shot (hint: trees involved).

      • Equipment Choices for Real‑World Conditions Why amateurs should own more than 14 clubs — even if they only bring 14 to the course. Hybrids vs. fairway woods, wedge bounce for different sands, and how to build a “weather‑ready” bag.

      • The Psychology of Ball Striking Why hitting it solid matters more emotionally than scoring well. John shares how great contact saved an otherwise distance‑challenged round.

      • Teaching Philosophy: Keep It Simple Scott and Jeff talk about the value of simple instruction, why online tips can be misleading, and how great teachers fix multiple issues with one cue.

      • The Bull Joke (Because We Can’t Help Ourselves) John drops a classic “consulting bull” joke that fits perfectly into the Golf Guys tradition of questionable humor.


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      46 min
    • The Great Grass Debate: Jeff Knows Stuff, John Nods Politely
      Segment 1 — The Leaf Blower Revolution
      • John revisits the genius idea of renting leaf blowers on golf carts.
      • Jeff approves, mostly because it means fewer leaves and fewer excuses.
      • Discussion of “stick blowers,” battery life, and USB‑charging them like they’re iPhones.
      • Reminder: if your pro shop steals this idea, credit goes to us… mostly John… but Jeff will take it.
      • Segment 2 — Fall Golf = Yard Work + Swearing
        • Jeff looks out his window and sees zero grass, all leaves.
        • John suggests hiring the guy with the giant leaf‑vacuum truck.
        • Jeff explains the emotional trauma of raking leaves only to have the wind undo your work.
        • Conclusion: golf is easier than yard work, even when you’re terrible at both.
        • Segment 3 — Grass Talk: The Nerdy Part You Didn’t Know You Needed
          • Hybrid bluegrass that stays green in December? Yes, it exists.
          • Jeff wonders if it’s too thick for fairways or perfect for them — agronomy degree pending.
          • Zoysia: weed or wonder? Jeff says “plant out of place,” John says “looks like straw.”
          • Poa Annua: a curse word in the Midwest, a religion at Pebble Beach.
          • Why greens get bumpy in the afternoon — spoiler: different grasses grow at different speeds.
          • Segment 4 — The Superintendent’s Secret Trick
            • Jeff tells the story of rolling greens after syringing them midday.
            • Why it works: water softens, roller smooths, golfers think the greens are perfect.
            • Why they don’t double‑cut greens: “How many haircuts can a blade of grass take?”
            • Moral: superintendents are wizards and we should stop complaining.
            • Segment 5 — The USGA Actually Does Something Good
              • John is shocked to admit the USGA has useful resources.
              • Jeff explains the “Green Section Record” — a treasure trove of turf knowledge.
              • Also: rules education, videos, examples, and why some rules aren’t as dumb as they seem.
              • Segment 6 — Local Rules: The Golfers’ Manifesto
                • Jeff recalls the Friday gang at Harrison Lake inventing “roving mulligans.”
                • Also: the “throw rule,” used only on your own ball (no sabotage allowed).
                • Why these rules exist: to prevent emotional meltdown after one terrible shot.
                • John and Jeff agree — golf is more fun when you stop pretending you’re in the U.S. Open.
                • Segment 7 — Dormant Grass & Winter Golf
                  • Jeff explains dormant Bermuda vs dormant zoysia.
                  • Dormant Bermuda = mushy sadness.
                  • Dormant zoysia = every shot feels teed up.
                  • John suggests spray‑painting it green like Phoenix lawns.
                  • Jeff approves this chaos.

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                    42 min
                  • What Retired Pro Athletes and 25-Handicappers Have in Common

                    In This Episode

                    Jeff reports in from Maryland while vacationing near Chesapeake Bay.

                    A quick football detour featuring Indiana University's impressive season and thoughts on the upcoming Ohio State matchup.

                    Why today's college football players seem bigger, faster, and stronger than ever.

                    John talks about his other podcast, The Approach Shot, and what they've learned from interviewing retired professional athletes.

                    The surprising statistic: most retired pro athletes have never taken a golf lesson.

                    Why athletic ability alone doesn't guarantee success on the golf course.

                    How ego often keeps both athletes and regular golfers from seeking instruction.

                    Jeff shares stories of working with former MLB pitchers and NFL players on the range.

                    The simple swing fixes that often produce immediate results.

                    Lessons from other sports that golfers should borrow, including focus techniques and performance psychology.

                    Why trying to copy someone else's swing can sometimes make your game worse.

                    How finding a motion that fits your body is often more important than looking textbook perfect.

                    Practical advice for golfers who refuse to take lessons.

                    The value of playing with golfers at a similar skill level.

                    Why making a few putts can dramatically improve your enjoyment of the game.

                    Key Takeaway

                    The goal isn't to swing like Rory. The goal is to find a swing you can repeat, trust, and enjoy. Sometimes improvement comes from a major lesson, and sometimes it starts with a small adjustment and an open mind.


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                    40 min
                  • Fall Golf: Bring Layers… and a Leaf Blower

                    John and Jeff settle in for a classic fall‑golf conversation — equal parts practical, ridiculous, and “why hasn’t anyone thought of this before?”

                    Jeff kicks things off with a life update: he’s taking a rare month off from teaching to spend time with his wife, including a trip to the Indiana vs. Nebraska football game. Thanks to his friendship with Coach Matt Rhule, Jeff’s getting VIP access to the Huskers’ sideline, which John insists is the most Jeff thing ever.

                    From there, the guys dive into the chaos of autumn golf, where the leaves are pretty, the air is crisp, and every tee shot becomes a scavenger hunt. John unveils his million‑dollar idea: golf‑course leaf‑blower rentals so players can blast away leaves and pine needles to find their golf balls. Jeff immediately approves — calling it the kind of innovation that could extend the season and save golfers everywhere from the dreaded “lost in the leaves” penalty.

                    They break down the realities of playing in cooler weather:

                    Layering without restricting your swing

                    Heat packs for hands and pockets

                    Keeping ball position consistent when your body feels different

                    Why fall golf in the western U.S. plays nothing like fall golf anywhere else

                    The show wraps with gear talk — cart covers, cold‑weather accessories, and a reminder to keep your game sharp without freezing your face off. And as always, the guys encourage listeners to enjoy sports responsibly with FanDuel.


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                    41 min
                  • Golf Rules: Because Common Sense Was Busy

                    • Divot Repair Madness

                    Jeff kicks things off with his long‑standing gripe: why on earth can’t you fix a divot in the fairway? We can repair the green like surgeons, but the fairway — the place you’re supposed to hit the ball — is apparently sacred ground. John shares a video of two British golfers arguing about divot definitions like they’re rewriting the Magna Carta, and both guys agree the logic is… let’s call it “creative.”

                    • The 10‑Club Proposal (aka: No, Thank You)

                    Next up: the Brits again, suggesting golfers should be limited to ten clubs. John wonders why anyone needs a rule to do what they could already do voluntarily, and Jeff admits he played months without an 8‑iron and barely noticed. The conclusion? If you want to carry ten clubs, great — but don’t make it a rule for everyone else.

                    • Golf Ball Markings & Putter Alignment Rules

                    The guys dig into proposed restrictions on ball markings and alignment aids. Jeff questions whether these rules would apply to manufacturer‑printed graphics or just hand‑drawn lines. John wonders who exactly is being protected by making putting harder. The consensus: these changes feel like solutions in search of a problem.

                    • Out‑of‑Bounds Rule Update

                    Jeff explains the new O.B. option: instead of the dreaded walk of shame back to the tee, players can now drop two club lengths inside the boundary with a two‑stroke penalty. It speeds up play and encourages people to actually follow the rule — which is good, because most golfers were already “creatively interpreting” stroke‑and‑distance anyway.

                    • Penalties, Scorecards, and Golf’s Integrity

                    The episode wraps with a chat about penalty fairness and the tradition of signing scorecards. Jeff argues penalties should match the severity of the mistake, and both guys agree that signing a card is still one of the last bastions of honesty in competitive golf.


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                    37 min
                  • Why Hockey Players Keep Beating Us at Golf

                    Jeff and John got rolling on all things golf, bouncing from putting to fairways to the little tweaks that actually shave strokes. Jeff went deep on the putting side — talking eye dominance, why speed control is king, and why three‑putting is basically donating strokes to the golf gods. They even wandered into the wild world of side‑saddle putting, mostly to remind everyone why almost nobody sticks with it.

                    From there, they hit on full‑swing strategy: knowing your real distances (not the ones you brag about), picking the right club for the lie, and respecting wind like it’s a living, breathing opponent. And of course, they had to mention how hockey players keep showing up and embarrassing everyone with their natural golf swings.

                    Jeff sprinkled in wisdom from his golf schools, hammering home the basics — hit more fairways, control your speed on the greens, and stop pretending your 7‑iron goes 185.

                    Naturally, the guys drifted into some classic off‑course chatter too: food delivery disasters, sports announcers who drive them nuts, and a little college sports talk for good measure.

                    And yes, John wrapped things up with a nod to FanDuel, reminding listeners to fire up the app if they’re feeling lucky.

                    Jeff and John dive into a full round of golf talk — from putting fundamentals to fairway strategy and everything in between. Jeff breaks down why speed control is the real secret to better putting, how eye dominance affects alignment, and why most golfers should stay far, far away from side‑saddle putting.

                    They get into the nuts and bolts of scoring better: hit more fairways, know your actual club distances, and factor in wind, lie, and slope instead of pretending they don’t exist. The guys also have fun with the ongoing trend of hockey players dominating golf, thanks to their balance, rotation, and hand‑eye skills.

                    Jeff pulls from his golf schools to highlight the biggest amateur mistakes — three‑putting, bad club selection, and fantasy‑land yardages.

                    Off the course, the conversation drifts into food delivery mishaps, sports announcers who make them crazy, and a little college sports banter.

                    Presented by FanDuel, with John reminding listeners to fire up the app and get in the game.


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                    40 min
                  • Mold, Maddux & Mallets: A Very Golf Guys Episode

                    Golf, Weather & Other Things Trying to Kill the Game

                    John and Scott kick things off talking about the kind of heat and humidity that makes Florida golf feel like you’re playing inside a crockpot. Scott mentions mold — actual mold — growing on courses, because apparently Florida grass has decided to become a biology experiment.
                    Jody Mudd, Mac O’Grady, Greg Maddux… the guys bounce through golf legends and oddballs until Jeff jumps in with a story about Maddux asking him for swing help at a tournament. Because of course Greg Maddux wants to get even better at something.
                    John and Jeff brag (modestly… okay not modestly) about their recent FanDuel wins — Texas, Oklahoma State, Louisville, Ole Miss — basically everything except the teams you bet on.
                    Jeff talks about the charity tournament at Pine Canyon where he ran into half of Major League Baseball and a couple NBA guys. The conversation detours into Indiana basketball history and Gus Johnson yelling things at high volume, because that’s what Gus Johnson does.

                    Which Athletes Make the Best Golfers?

                    Jeff lays out his official rankings:

                    Hockey players — apparently if you can slap a frozen rubber disc at 100 mph, you can hit a golf ball.

                    Tennis players — footwork, rotation, anger management… they’ve got it all.
                    Baseball pitchers — elite sequencing and way too much free time between starts.

                    Jeff shares a story about a pitcher who got better the moment Jeff stopped trying to “fix” him and instead let his swing match his natural throwing motion.

                    Sometimes the best coaching is just getting out of the way.

                    Athlete Psychology: Why They Hate Lessons

                    John brings up his other show, The Approach Shot, and how athletes — even ones with 12 coaches per game — suddenly turn into stubborn toddlers when you suggest a golf lesson.
                    Jeff adds that one pitcher told him he hits golf balls 10 times more often than he throws pitches.
                    And the feel of a good golf swing reminded him of his favorite pitch.
                    That’s why pitchers get good fast: reps, reps, reps.

                    Swing Fixes, Hickory Clubs & Louisville Golf Nostalgia

                    Jeff shares a setup tweak that instantly improved a player’s swing — just moving the feet and letting the body do what it already knows.
                    John and Scott go down a fun rabbit hole about Louisville Golf, persimmon heads, hickory shafts, and the revival of hickory tournaments.
                    Because nothing says “I love golf” like willingly making the game harder.

                    Grass Talk: Bermuda vs. Paspalum

                    Florida courses are ripping out Bermuda and putting in Paspalum, and Scott explains why that changes everything.
                    Short game on Paspalum?
                    You fly it.
                    Short game on Bermuda?
                    You chip it.
                    Short game on either?
                    Most golfers panic. Jeff points out that players struggle because they try to use the same technique everywhere — and grass does not care about your feelings.

                    Chipping on Difficult Grass

                    Jeff breaks down:

                    The hook chip

                    The slide technique with a gap wedge
                    How to use bounce without digging a trench
                    Scott backs him up with stories from a South Florida seminar where instructors basically said, “Stop trying to be fancy — hit the center of the face.”

                    Fast greens + grabby grass = more people putting from 40 yards out.

                    And honestly, sometimes that’s the right call.
                    Leading Edges, Hybrids & Putter Geekery
                    Jeff gets into the weeds (literally) about leading‑edge design:

                    Rounded edges = forgiveness

                    Sharp edges = sadness, especially on Bermuda

                    He talks about modern putters with weight shoved forward and softer edges to help the ball behave.
                    Scott jumps in with the “match the putter to the stroke” sermon, noting that even tour players struggle with putting.
                    Lead tape, grip tweaks, prototype teardrop putters — it’s all on the table.


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                    48 min
                  • Uphill Lies, Downhill Lies, and the Lies You Tell Yourself

                    Lesson Tee vs. On‑Course Work

                    Jeff breaks down the difference:
                    Lesson tee = mechanics
                    On-course = thinking
                    Golfers get in trouble because they grab a club based solely on yardage. Jeff explains why 155 yards is NOT always a six‑iron—especially when there’s wind, elevation, trouble in front, or a lie that changes loft.

                    • Becoming Your Own Caddy

                    Jeff urges golfers to talk to themselves like a caddy would:
                    Is long better than short?
                    Is left better than right?
                    What’s the wind doing up there, not just at your ankles?
                    Most golfers toss grass in the air and pretend it means something. Jeff explains why that’s adorable… and useless.

                    The Invisible Enemy: Wind

                    Jeff goes deep on how wind affects ball flight:
                    Wedges balloon and stall
                    Trees tell the truth
                    Clouds tell the real truth

                    Ground wind ≠ sky wind

                    Rule of thumb: whatever you feel at ground level, it’s worse up where your ball is flying.

                    • Lies That Lie to You

                    Uphill lie? Adds loft.
                    Downhill lie? Takes loft away.
                    Jeff explains how to brace the downhill leg, match shoulder tilt to the slope, and choose the right club so your six‑iron doesn’t suddenly become a four‑iron or an eight‑iron.

                    • Rough Reality Check

                    If the ball is sitting down, your six‑iron is a fantasy. Jeff walks through how to test the grass, choose the longest club with enough loft to cut through, and why the ball should NOT be shoved back in your stance unless you enjoy hitting low screamers.

                    Football Break – FanDuel Accuracy & Michigan’s “Extra Second”

                    John and Jeff take a detour into college football, roasting Michigan’s infamous “extra second,” praising FanDuel’s spooky accuracy, and sharing stories about Indiana fans who sometimes forget they have a football team.

                    • Closing – Off to Sedona

                    Jeff heads off to Oak Creek Golf Course for desert-style teaching, psychic energy, and maybe aliens. John stays in the studio where the wind is controlled and the lies are only metaphorical.


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                    42 min
                  • Bad Teachers, Broken Swings, and Why Jeff Drinks

                    00:00 – Cold Open: “So… You Changed Teachers, Didn’t You?”

                    Jeff warms up with a couple of cautionary tales about students who wandered off and came back with swings that looked like they’d been assembled by IKEA.

                    03:12 – Why Picking the Right Instructor Matters

                    We dive into the big truth: golf instruction isn’t one‑size‑fits‑all. If your teacher thinks it is, run. Fast.

                    07:45 – The Franken‑Swing Files

                    Jeff breaks down how well‑meaning golfers get turned into confused pretzels when instructors force them into positions their bodies simply can’t do.

                    12:10 – Grip, Stance, Ball Position: The “It Depends” Fundamentals

                    A lively rant on why fundamentals aren’t commandments — they’re adjustable tools that must fit you, not the instructor’s favorite tour player.

                    17:30 – Golf Courses: Environmental Villains or Community Heroes?

                    We take a detour (because of course we do) into water usage, economics, and why golf courses aren’t the bad guys people think they are.
                    22:55 – How to Choose a Teacher Who Won’t Break You
                    Jeff lays out the criteria: look for instructors with a track record of improving all kinds of golfers, not disciples of a single swing religion.

                    28:40 – Sneak Peek: Jeff’s Top 100 Teacher Conference Talk

                    A preview of Jeff’s upcoming presentation on ball position — why it matters, why most golfers get it wrong, and why fixing it changes everything.

                    32:00 – Final Thoughts: Your Swing, Your Body, Your Teacher

                    We wrap with the big takeaway: find a coach who teaches you, not their system.


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                    46 min

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