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Thoughts Are Not Gods with Betsy Holmberg


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Ep.142. In this episode, I sit with psychologist Betsy Holmberg to explore how we can take our power back from the inner voice that thinks it runs the show. Betsy shares her deeply personal journey through depression and how diving into neuroscience—specifically the default mode network—helped her understand why our thoughts can feel so overpowering, and yet be so wrong. We talk about how negative self-talk takes root, why mindfulness works, and how we can separate who we truly are from the mental noise we’ve grown used to.



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Introduction to Thoughts and Mental Health

Betsy's Personal Journey and Insights

Understanding Negative Thoughts and Therapy

The Default Mode Network Explained

Separating Identity from Internal Monologue

Practical Tools for Managing Negative Thoughts

Real-Life Applications of the Approach

Parenting and Supporting Children

Connecting Neuroscience with Spirituality


This episode is a reminder that you are not your thoughts—you are the observer of them. And once you stop worshipping the voice in your head, you start to hear something much more powerful: your real self.


Betsy's Bio

Betsy Holmberg, PhD, is an award-winning psychologist and author specializing in overthinking and negative self-talk. She writes for Psychology Today, and has been featured in radio, television, and podcasts. Her first book, Unkind Mind, comes out June 1 by New Harbinger Publications. Before settling into writing and therapy, Betsy ran the global behavioural health service line at McKinsey & Company, a premier consulting firm. She also worked at Harvard and co-authored several peer-reviewed academic journal articles on non-suicidal self injury and suicidal thoughts. She is trained in Cognitive-Behavioural and Dialectical Behavioural therapies, and has treated clients of various ages and presentations. Betsy received her doctorate, master's and B.A. in Psychology from Duke University.


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