This is our long-awaited second episode on aging. Our conversation with Patrick & Cecile takes a few detours. We talk about traveling and learning, the hard way, how to take part in outdoor adventures as well as other "stuff". 

Rich and Bin share their vacation fiascos. At the end of the day it wasn't all bad. Family time and fun was had by all.  

Rich and Bin talk about the ten most common fears people hold. They share which of these fears they have. 

Rich and I discuss meeting our children's significant others.  Daughter in-law, Lucy, shares her first impressions of meeting us.

Are we aging gracefully? Rich and I talk about the ups and downs of growing old together. 

Bin and I talk about the joys, or not, of having an empty nest. 

How has life changed since the pandemic? Bin and I ramble on about it. 

We can never have too many pets or so Bin says. Bin and I talk about her love of pets. 

Chores. They have to get done.  Rich & Bin talk about who is doing the majority of the chores around the house.