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Can you believe this is Episode 155 already? Time really does fly when you’re having fun. And we’re going to have fun today because we’re talking about meditation! My guest is Ann Swanson, an absolute expert in the neuroscience and research behind meditation and author of the new book “Meditation for the Real World”. I love geeking out over the science of things, as you know, and Ann provides lots of science. But she’s also able to make meditation available to everyone for everyday practice in very real and accessible ways. I really enjoyed talking with Ann.
Ann came to meditation through yoga and she wasn’t a naturally ‘chill’ person so she didn’t take to meditation easily at all. What she found is that maybe she wasn’t using the right technique for the right situation which is something a lot of people struggle with. So Ann defines the differences between mindfulness, which is a real buzzword right now, and meditation. Mindfulness is a technique used in meditation but generally speaking, meditation is simply focusing in a relaxed way. Ann really worked at combining East and West, taking the ancient practices that have been available for so long and integrating some of the most cutting-edge research on brain tissue and neuroscience into her practices. Talking with Ann is so amazing because she dispels a lot of myths surrounding meditation and in doing so, makes it much more accessible. We talk about how it doesn’t have to be spiritual, the benefits of five-minute meditations as opposed to hour-long sessions, decreases in stress hormones and increases in key immune factors, building strong habits, and the easiest meditation which is what she calls the five senses meditation. Ann’s advice is research-based, easy to follow, focused on creating physically safe spaces and grounded in the benefits to health and brain function. I loved talking with Ann and I think you’ll love listening to our conversation just as much as we loved having it.
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About Ann Swanson:
Ann Swanson is the author of the internationally bestselling books SCIENCE OF YOGA and MEDITATION FOR THE REAL WORLD, which illuminates the fascinating science behind meditation with step-by-step practices to help you find peace in everyday life. Ann wasn’t a naturally “chill person,” and meditation didn’t come easy to her. Overcoming chronic pain and anxiety led her to India to study yoga, to China to explore tai chi, and to earn a Master of Science in Yoga Therapy. Ann blends cutting-edge research with ancient wisdom, resulting in realistic techniques.
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Hello friends! Today I’m talking about something I am lucky enough not to struggle with personally but which so many people do struggle with. And that is sleep. Sleep is my superpower, according to my husband, and I can fall asleep anywhere. Most people do not have this superpower, however, so every now and then I talk to a sleep expert here on the podcast because sleep is the absolute foundation for everything. If sleep isn’t dialled in, it’s so difficult to work on our relationships with food and our bodies. So today I’m pleased to introduce Amanda Chocko to the show to discuss sleep with us. Amanda is a nutritional therapy practitioner, sleep coach, and author of the book “Relax Sleep Thrive”.
Amanda encountered her own struggles with sleep during the pandemic when, in 2020, her insomnia became relentless and rendered her a zombie. That’s when she dug into the research and recorded everything she was learning to create a framework to fix her own sleep. Once she got to the root of her sleep troubles, she decided to write a book to help other people struggling with their own sleep and built a sleep coaching program around it. I talked to Amanda about what sleep challenges look like and why they happen, as well as why people who are struggling are also resistant to fighting their sleep issues. Amanda explains the science of sleep, how it’s linked to stress, and how schedules are important to maintaining good sleep. She shares advice on restructuring our days and routines to establish a healthy sleep schedule and addresses the questions of what to do if we can’t fall asleep and how to get back to sleep if we wake up too early. Amanda understands all the sleep issues - from sleep revenge to sleep debt and establishing a sleep schedule - and she works hard to assist everyone in overcoming chronic insomnia and reclaiming healthy sleep.
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About Amanda Chocko:
Amanda Chocko is a Nutritional Therapy Practitioner, Sleep Coach and Author of the book, Relax Sleep Thrive: Your 5-Week Journey to Peaceful, Restorative Sleep. When she landed on this path she found a journey that’s been equal parts challenging and incredibly rewarding. For years, her passion was helping women navigate the twists and turns of chronic health conditions. She always believed in a holistic approach, using the power of nutrition and lifestyle to tackle even the most stubborn health challenges. It’s been her mission to see these incredible individuals regain control of their well-being. But as she worked closely with these women, she noticed something: many of them were battling sleepless nights, just like she had in the past.
In 2020, as our world was in crisis, Amanda’s insomnia became chronic. She spent her nights staring at the ceiling and her days walking around like a zombie. It was then that she realized she needed to take serious action. So, she rolled up her sleeves and dove headfirst into the research. As Amanda immersed myself in the world of sleep science, she uncovered invaluable insights and pieced together a holistic approach that finally helped her get to the root causes of her insomnia. It was a game-changer, and she couldn’t believe the transformation in her own sleep quality.
Now, armed with the knowledge, experience, and a newfound sense of purpose, Amanda is dedicating her practice to helping individuals conquer their own sleep struggles. She’s been there, done that, and she’s here to guide you through the process of reclaiming your nights, one peaceful slumber at a time.
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CW: Talk about weight loss and experienced medical weight stigma, use of the terms obese and obesity
Welcome to today’s episode, everyone, where we address a topic that’s not easy for us to talk about. We’re talking about weight stigma in the healthcare system. Why does weight stigma exist in our healthcare system? How does it show up and who does it show up for? What are the side effects of this stigma on us as individuals but also as a society? To tackle these difficult questions, Dr. Stephanie Hart, a family physician who runs a niche practice in sexual medicine, has joined me to talk frankly about her own personal experiences as a fat patient inside the healthcare system. These experiences are what drew her to take a deeper interest in medical weight stigma and how to combat it at an educational level.
Stephanie and I both have experiences in trying to navigate medical weight stigma as physicians, challenging the accepted diagnostic standard that weight loss is the immediate answer to any issue facing a fat person. But we also both have experiences in navigating the healthcare system as fat patients and it’s not been easy or pleasant. Stephanie graciously shares two very traumatic experiences she endured as a fat patient, experiences that involved not just weight stigma but disabled body stigma within healthcare. We examine where this stigma comes from, how it’s perpetuated, and the clear harm that it’s doing to individuals and society. The fixation on a very specific thin weight as being the ideal from which to assess medical issues is damaging the roughly two-thirds of people who exist in bigger bodies than that narrow ideal. Join Stephanie and me as we get vulnerable and do a deep dive into what weight stigma is doing to healthcare and how we are trying to change that for future generations.
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About Dr. Stephanie Hart:
Stephanie Hart is a family physician by training, running a niche practice in sexual medicine. She was first exposed to weight stigma personally as a patient with her own health concerns, and this turned into an interest in medical weight stigma especially at an educational level.
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Hello there everyone. Welcome back to the podcast. I’m sure many of you have read the title of this episode and asked “Why is Michelle having a conversation about money on a podcast entitled Thrive Beyond Size?” At first glance it doesn’t seem to fit, I know. But here’s the reason why: there are a lot of similarities between our relationship with food and our relationship with money. In past times when I thought I was doing “really good” with food, I was spending money like crazy because that dopamine hit needed to come from somewhere. So to heal our relationship with our whole selves - food, weight, work, money - I’ve invited financial planner and founder of Mindset & Money, Linda Grizely, to talk with me today.
I struggle a lot with money and Linda is no stranger to helping people like me improve our relationships with money. Whatever internal obstacles we have can be confronted by changing our mindset, and Linda is an expert in setting a positive mindset around money. Linda notes that a lot of how we deal with money is handed down from what we experience our parents or grandparents doing and changing that script is part of how we change our mindset. We talk about habits like not living within our means or overspending and Linda explains the reasons behind those mindsets and scarcity mindsets. Our conversation covers how understanding finance can help alleviate the stress surrounding it, why struggling to make peace with how we view money is very similar to the struggle we have with loving our bodies, and how to decide when to prioritize ourselves versus setting aside savings. Linda’s insight gave me a lot to think about in terms of my own money views and I hope you feel similarly inspired by this episode.
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About Linda Grizely:
Welcome to Linda Grizely, your Money Mindset Mentor. Linda is passionate about guiding women through transformative journeys.
In her career as a financial planner, Linda witnessed clients facing self-imposed obstacles that hindered their financial growth. Many times, she found herself thinking, "If only they could break free from these internal barriers." Or more realistically, “They need to get out of their own way!”
Reflecting on this, Linda thought about her own experiences with money. Growing up in a lower-middle-class household, she had inherited a scarcity mindset. As her life progressed, she experienced diverse money situations and observed many narratives. Through these vast life experiences, and through self-realization, she set out on a journey of self-improvement and unwittingly rewrote her money script.
Now, she empowers others to overcome internal obstacles to financial success. At Mindset & Money, she enables women to shift their money mindsets, dismantling internal obstacles blocking their financial success.
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Friends, I’m excited to share this episode with you all because it’s on a subject I’ve been struggling with recently. We’re going to talk about movement. My relationship with movement has gone up and down, if you’ve been listening to this podcast from the beginning, and part of the struggle is that there’s part of me that still connects exercise to weight loss and that makes it feel a bit like punishment. So I keep researching movement and one of the people I’ve met who has been wonderful at helping and coaching me through this disconnect is my guest today: Kim Hagle. Kim is a size-inclusive fitness specialist, a non-diet nutritionist, and a body image coach who founded Radiant Vitality Wellness. She and her company offer weight neutral fitness training and transformational coaching and she also hosts the Power in Motion podcast on which I’ve been a guest! I’m so glad you get to meet her today, she is amazing.
The first thing Kim shares is her personal journey with fitness, sports, movement, and dieting and how it led her eventually to making her fitness career weight neutral and size inclusive. She had some powerful revelations in her own life that helped her get here. In our conversation, Kim and I talk about how most fitness facilities are not seat up for people in larger bodies, from the physical space to the imagery to the mirrors, and how we need to not assume everyone entering a fitness center has weight loss as a goal. Kim speaks to how movement can incorporate anything that gets us moving and contributes to health in our bodies, what clothing we can wear to work out so we don’t have to feel pressured into tiny spandex, having flexibility built into training goals, and the overall joy we should find in movement. Kim is warm and supportive and has helped change my perspective a lot, which I appreciate. Talking with her is so inspirational to me and I hope you all find similar inspiration from this episode.
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About Kim Hagle:
Kim Hagle (she/her) is a Size Inclusive Fitness Specialist, Non-Diet Nutritionist, Body Image Coach and founder of Radiant Vitality Wellness.
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I’m happy you’re all here to join me in a deep dive on a topic that comes up a lot on this podcast and in my coaching programs. That topic is embodiment. People these days are trying to understand the importance of alignment, of making decisions for themselves and their bodies, and there’s a spiritual need associated with it. That’s why this topic comes up so much. So to talk about embodiment, to explain what it is, why it’s important and how to do it, I’ve invited Jen Aks to the podcast. Jen Aks is an embodiment coach, workshop facilitator, and founder of The Power of Gesture™. The Power of Gesture™helps regulate your nervous system which leads to a sense of inner calm and clarity. I want that for myself! I want that for all of you! So we’re going to have Jen talk us through how to achieve that.
One of the things that motivates Jen to do the embodiment work that she does is her desire to help people reawaken their inner wisdom. This reawakening leads to being authentic and owning your truth. It sounds easy but it’s not a simple process because we are all so disconnected. Jen explains what embodiment is and how her methodology works, how she starts clients on this journey, and how gestures can help us express things we’re holding back. Talking with Jen made me realize how often we unconsciously want permission to just be ourselves and the safe space she creates with this work gives us that permission. How do we express our everyday emotions, some of which we can’t even find words for? How do we slow down enough to listen to ourselves? How do we accept communication from our emotions and also release them? All of these questions are ones I talk through with Jen in this amazing episode. I’m so glad you’re here to listen to Jen’s wisdom with me.
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About Jen Aks:
Jen Aks is an Embodiment Coach, Workshop Facilitator, and Founder of The Power of Gesture™, which is an embodiment method that teaches you how to release stuck emotions and embrace the innate wisdom of your body. The Power of Gesture™ helps regulate your nervous system, leading to a profound sense of inner calm and clarity. With this newfound connection and understanding of your body, you'll gain the confidence to trust your instincts and overcome any barriers holding you back so that you can live a life aligned with your truth.
Jen offers The Power of Gesture™ in private coaching, workshops, and speaking engagements. Jen holds a BFA from New York University and has dedicated her career to teaching people how to connect with their wisdom and resilience, by learning to unlock the intuitive language of the body.
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CW: Talk about eating disorders, bulimia, binge eating disorder, restricted eating, purging
I’m so glad to be back in front of the microphone with you all because I recorded so many episodes before going on an African vacation that I feel I haven’t reached out in a very long time! It feels good to connect again. I had a wonderful trip and you’ll hear a little more about it in this episode. My guest today is Helen Bennett. She’s a certified health and addiction recovery coach who specializes in helping people break free from compulsive eating and is the founder of BulimiaFreedom.com. Helen and I have just an amazing, honest, beautiful conversation about disordered eating, sharing stories from both our journeys. Helen truly understands the guilt and shame feelings as well as the challenges that come with an eating disorder and how a peaceful relationship with food can be reclaimed. This is a tough subject, and triggering, so if this is a trigger for you please practice self-care as you listen.
Helen shares her personal experience with bulimia, detailing how she started the cycle of binging and purging at the young age of eight and why. It led her to what she calls “a 20-year, nightmarish battle of being caught in this horrific cycle” between restriction, overeating, binge eating, and purging. She calls it an addiction quite deliberately. She eventually found things that helped her fight her way out of the cycle and now she uses her experience to help others get free as well. Helen and I talk about the intense shame and guilt eating disorders bring with them, how hearing somebody else be open about their struggle can be such a lifeline, and we share all the struggles we each experienced in our own journeys. Helen sheds light on exactly what drives disordered eating and what fuels the addiction. We talk about what tools helped her and why they worked. There’s so much information, compassion, and understanding in this episode, it moved me and made me realize how useful open communication like this is so we stop feeling isolated in our struggles. I hope you find Helen’s story and knowledge as beautiful as I did.
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About Helen Bennett:
Coach Helen Bennett specializes in helping men and women break free of compulsive overeating. Having secretly battled bulimia for two decades, Helen has first-hand experience of the guilt, shame and frustration that comes with feeling out of control with food. She also understands the unique challenges of reclaiming a peaceful relationship with food and offers practical (and often quirky!) tools to help individuals eliminate compulsion and find lasting food freedom.
Helen is a certified Health Coach and Addiction Recovery Coach and is the founder of BulimiaFreedom.com
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CW: Discussion on sex, sexuality, and fatphobia
Friends, I hope you were able to join me last week for part one of this conversation with my guest Angela Corry. Angela is a clinical and sexual health educator, an expert in fatphobia and sex, and last week we talked about body image and fatphobia and how perceptions have changed throughout history. Fatphobia is very pervasive in our society and it shows up everywhere, especially in areas of sexuality and pleasure. This second episode with Angela really focuses on pleasure. It’s our right, in whatever body, as a human, to experience pleasure on every level, including sexually. But why don’t those of us in bigger bodies often feel comfortable experiencing or seeking pleasure? And how can we change that?
As Angela states right at the start of our conversation, “sexy isn’t a size”. We deserve to feel good. What feels good for our body, whether a great orgasm or the pleasure of a wonderful bath in a tub that fits us, is pleasurable and we deserve that. Why is that hard for us to accept if our bodies are bigger? It’s very much a link between fat and sex and fat and food and the way societal structures drill certain reluctances into us due to size. Much of the work Angela does with her clients starts with confidence and self-esteem, it starts with helping people eliminate the barriers we have between us and experiencing pleasure. We talk about learning to accept our bodies and touch our bodies, bringing all five senses into our pleasure, and not being afraid of sex toys or pillows or adjustments needed to make sex more pleasurable for us. This episode dives into everything we don’t talk about enough when it comes to fat, sex, and pleasure. I’m so glad you’re here for this!
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About Angela Corry:
Angela Corry, RN, BScN, ACCN, is a clinical educator and sexual health educator for Loving Choices in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. She earned her Bachelor of Science in Nursing from the University of Alberta, her Advanced Critical Care Nursing (ACCN) specialty from Mount Royal University and her certification in Holistic Sexual Health Education from the Institute of Sexuality Education and Enlightenment (ISEE). Angela has over 20 years of nursing experience in emergency and intensive care as a bedside and clinical nurse educator. During this time, she has contributed to several medical journals, including the Emergency Medical Journal.
For the past two years, while focusing on health promotion and wellness, Angela realized that her pre-conceived notions about sexuality and body image were enmeshed with mainstream society’s views on what is “normal,” “healthy,” or “feasible.” She believes it is necessary to reflect on the nature of sexuality and size diversity and how they fit and are used in our social, economic, and political structures.
Angela wants to help empower individuals to live authentically by helping clients and professionals make choices that cultivate body positivity, accept size diversity and personal empowerment, enhance sexual well-being, celebrate the diversity of sexual expression, and promote equity for all within the current structures of our fat-phobic society.
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Friends welcome to another episode of Thrive Beyond Size. Today’s topic is so big that you’ll hear from my guest twice. We’re doing a two-parter, part one this week and part two next week. My guest is Angela Corry and she’s a clinical and sexual health educator from right here in my hometown of Edmonton, Alberta. Angela and I are going to talk about pleasure at every size. Sex? Yes. Intimacy? Yes. But also just pleasure in general. Enjoying pleasure. For this conversation, we are really focusing on why women often don’t feel deserving of pleasure which often stems from the fat-phobic society we live in. Men suffer from this too, of course, but women do more so and we’re focusing on women in this episode. But why is fat our foe? And how can we see fat as just a fact of who we are and not what we deserve?
Angela shares a bit about her personal journey and how she came to understand that her preconceived notions about sexuality and body image were entwined with mainstream society’s views on “normal” health and size. That brought about a change in her and she has devoted herself to helping empower individuals to live authentically, accept size, and enhance sexual well-being ever since. Angela and I talk through the history of body image, tracing through changing eras from when fat was preferred in culture to where it shifted and thin became the overriding aesthetic focus. Angela shares a very personal and powerful story that illustrates how much work we each have to do to step out of society’s viewpoint. When did we collectively stop viewing fat as just a body size and start seeing it as disgusting or something to avoid? And why do we allow our size to dictate our right to pleasure? These are questions we explore in this episode and Angela is so amazing, so insightful, that I can’t wait for you to hear this episode and the next one with her.
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About Angela Corry:
Angela Corry, RN, BScN, ACCN, is a clinical educator and sexual health educator for Loving Choices in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. She earned her Bachelor of Science in Nursing from the University of Alberta, her Advanced Critical Care Nursing (ACCN) specialty from Mount Royal University and her certification in Holistic Sexual Health Education from the Institute of Sexuality Education and Enlightenment (ISEE). Angela has over 20 years of nursing experience in emergency and intensive care as a bedside and clinical nurse educator. During this time, she has contributed to several medical journals, including the Emergency Medical Journal.
For the past two years, while focusing on health promotion and wellness, Angela realized that her pre-conceived notions about sexuality and body image were enmeshed with mainstream society’s views on what is “normal,” “healthy,” or “feasible.” She believes it is necessary to reflect on the nature of sexuality and size diversity and how they fit and are used in our social, economic, and political structures.
Angela wants to help empower individuals to live authentically by helping clients and professionals make choices that cultivate body positivity, accept size diversity and personal empowerment, enhance sexual well-being, celebrate the diversity of sexual expression, and promote equity for all within the current structures of our fat-phobic society.
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Hello friends! I’m excited to share what I’ve learned with you all today because I have been down a rabbit hole for this topic. The question that prompted my research was “Where does the statistic that 95% of diets fail come from?” And I dug deep. I don’t advise you to go my route and Google, I did it so you don’t have to. But amongst all the fat shaming and weight discrimination, I found some answers. Some of those came from the book “Anti-Diet” by Christy Harrison. And the first place it was reported was in 1959 in a study done by Dr. Albert Stunkard. The research is there! The statistic is accurate. And that’s what this episode is about.
Even back in the 1950s, obesity was assumed to be a disease that doctors needed to treat. Their assumption was that it should be an easy treatment: get people to eat less and move more. Right? This same assumption is prevalent in diet culture today. So when it fails, the blame is put on the patient instead of on the diet. A lot of studies are conducted over a short period of time so in that first six months it will look like a success. But if the patients are followed for longer, over a year or more, that’s when weight plateaus and people start regaining. Additionally, around 40% of people drop out of studies. So finding the origin of the ‘98% of diets fail’ statistic and proving it with additional studies requires a lot of digging. But it is a true statistic and I’m going to tell you why. I’m going to explain it all in this episode. I think it’s an important thing to discuss and understand because patients do not need to be blamed for the failure of the treatment. Diet culture is lying to us.
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About Dr. Michelle Tubman:
Dr. Michelle Tubman is certified by the American Board of Obesity Medicine, which means she understands exactly what's happening in your body when you diet. Although she does not provide any medical advice in her coaching programs, this knowledge gives her an edge over most coaches.
She also holds Level 1 and Level 2 Precision Nutrition coaching certifications which make her skilled at coaching nutrition, dietary change, and habit change in general. Realizing that emotional eating and bingeing are complicated for most of us, she also did training in mind-body and intuitive eating. Peace around food is possible.
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