Thriving in the Midst of Chaos: Parenting With Special Needs Kids

Episode 28: Raising a Special Needs Child Into Adulthood With Guest Harriet Cabelly

In this episode, we discuss raising a child with special needs children into adulthood, and grief over the "loss of a shattered dream." Harriet's daughter, Nava, was born with agenesis of the corpus callosum. When her daughter was diagnosed, Harriet became very upset. She heard a lecture from a doctor who discussed parents going through the grief process when their child is diagnosed with a different need. She found psychotherapy and group therapy very helpful to help her through her grief. When you are pregnant, you expect a "normal and healthy" baby and when that doesn't happen, your dream may feel shattered. She found it helpful to "rebuild her new reality" and to set new dreams and goals within that new reality.

Her daughter is now an adult. However, Harriet had to figure out how to facilitate the transition to adulthood. She first decided to think about what she was parenting toward, meaning what are your ultimate goals for the child and how can you assist the child to be as independent as they can be. To prepare her daughter for the transition, she made sure not to pity or enable her daughter, tolerate it when her daughter struggled, and to assist her daughter with being as independent as she could be. Assisting the child in gaining a sense of self-pride and self-esteem was very important. She highly recommends getting on a wait-list for independent living a few years prior to when you expect your child to be ready to move into independent living. It was also helpful for her to find and work with a special needs attorney or elder lawyer, in order to gain assistance and education regarding supplemental needs trusts and guardianship. Regarding work, she also recommends that the child obtain assistance and services through vocational rehabilitation. It is helpful to think about what your child likes and what his/her strengths are to help him/her find a job that is a good fit. She also found it helpful to have a Medicaid service coordinator that oversees things. If you have other children, it is really important to make sure you have one on one time with those other children as well.

Links: Harriet Cabelly Email Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Living Well Despite Adversity Special Needs Trust Vocational Rehabilitation

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Disclaimer: Our show is not designed to provide listeners with specific or personal legal, medical, or professional services or advice. Parents of children with health issues should always consult their health care provider for medical advice, medication, or treatment.

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Episode 27: Three Secrets Every Special Needs Parent Needs To Know With Guest Melissa Corkum

In this episode, we discuss three secrets every special needs parent needs to know. Melissa Corkum and her husband have 6 children, two of whom have special needs. Over the course of raising her children, she developed an individual and group parent coaching business, providing the knowledge she had learned over the years to others who require assistance. She noticed that her family exhibited blocked care. She sought to figure out how to treat this by utilizing numerous trainings and readings to help release the blocked care. These taught her about high structure and high nurture parenting, which helped her family grow in a positive manner. In order to cope with challenging situations, finding social support and connecting to others in similar situations on social media was very helpful to her. It was also helpful to her to redefine success as a parent to not revolve around her children's maladaptive behaviors. Through her coaching company, she has drop-in group coaching, but she has also created short courses that are manageable and digestible. Other resources she has found helpful are essential oils, having a mindset shift, the safe and sound protocol, EMDR, relaxation and mindfulness apps.

Melissa divulged her three secret every special needs parent needs to know.

Secret 1: It is not your child's fault or your fault that the child "can't act his age." When children are supported appropriately, they do not misbehave. Therefore, it is up to us as parents to figure out what they are.

Secret 2: Bad behavior is your child's way of telling you he/she needs something. There are 5 things to examine that might be leading to the "bad behavior." Do they feel tired, hungry, sick or thirsty? How is this affecting their sensory processing? What are their emotional regulation needs? Are they feeling safe? Do they have the skills needed to do what is asked of them?

Secret 3: You don't have to choose between being the bad guy and being a pushover. You can choose both structure and nurture.

Melissa is offering our listeners free access to her Laugh More, Yell Less Challenge. Check it out!

Links:

Melissa Corkum Laugh More, Yell Less Challenge Empowered to Connect The Connected Child Trust Based Relational Intervention Safe and Sound Protocol Eye Movement Desensitization and Processing (EMDR) Stop, Breathe, Think

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Episode 26: Advocating For Our Children with Guest Tosha Rollins

In this episode, we discuss advocating for our children and finding and utilizing resources. Tosha Rollins' oldest sons were diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) and ADHD when they were in middle school. Her oldest son was initially misdiagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder, due to misinformation on the part of the doctors about ASD. In order to advocate for her sons in school, Tosha had to educate herself about the accommodations that were available to her children in school. She obtained assistance with the IEP process through the South Carolina Autism Society. One of her son's had undiagnosed auditory processing disorder, and school became too overwhelming to him in high school. Therefore, Tosha allowed him to do homeschooling, and her son excelled in school. Vocational rehabilitation also helped her sons both in school and out of schools to work on vocational goals and transition into adulthood. She and her children also worked with South Carolina's Department of Disabilities and Special Needs (DDSN). She used the community waiver, which allowed her in-home respite care. These providers take her children to doctor's appointments, counseling, shopping, equestrian sessions, spend time with her sons in the community, and assist with social skills. The DDSN also provided her family with a case manager. Currently, she struggles to find independent living options for her children, as options are few and far between and resources are incredibly limited. In order to be successful in advocating for her children, she had to make sure she engaged in self-care and made herself a priority. She found it crucial to ask for help when she needs it. She initially had difficulty finding resources, and wouldn't have found any had it not been for her son's guidance counselor.

Links: Tosha Rollins, LPCA Facebook  Instagram  Autism In Action Podcast South Carolina Autism Society Vocational Rehabilitation Department of Disabilities and Special Needs Community Waiver Gratitude App Email us if you have any questions or ideas! We are now on instagram! Check out updates on our website. Follow Thriving on Twitter. Check us out on Facebook and join our parent group! Please subscribe to our podcast in the iTunes store, or wherever you find your podcasts, Leave us a 5 star review, to help us know what you like and what you don't like, and to make sure other like-minded people find support through this podcast.

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Episode 25: Growing up With Different Abilities with Erin Magennis

In this episode, we discuss what it was like growing up with multiple disabilities as a teenager. When she was 14, Erin Magennis began to experience a sudden change in her health and was eventually diagnosed with several different medical conditions, including EDS (Ehlers Danlos Syndrome), POTS (Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome), and sensory processing disorder. It was difficult for doctors to diagnose the different conditions. Additionally, she had to find doctors who understood the conditions and navigate the medical system as a teenager. The transition in care from childhood to adulthood was also very difficult, since the doctors did not know her history, did not have access to all of her medical records, and the disorders are relatively rare, so there was little research about treatment of the conditions.

Growing up with EDS, her joints would roll a lot, and her joints were shaped unusually. In order to cope, she had to be very attuned to her body so she wouldn't get hurt. Due to her conditions, she was only able to stay in school for 1-2 hours per day, much of that being spent in the nurse's office. Erin had to learn how to cope with chronic pain, but also how to communicate how her pain was affecting her.

With POTS, some days, she had difficulty being upright. This made school and exercise very difficult. In order to treat it, she exercises, eats salt, drinks a lot of water, wears compression stockings, and changed her diet. She had to set up a disability plan in order to manage school, where she spent 1-2 hours in classes focusing on her core classes and taking other classes online. POTS made it so that she had very little energy, so she needed to take each day one at a time.

For sensory processing disorder, she experiences sensory stimuli much stronger than others. Sometimes, strong senses are experienced as pain. She used cognitive behavioral therapy strategies to expose herself to stimuli, to reduce their effects on her.

Links: Erin Magennis Instagram Facebook Twitter CalmLet 

CalmLet Facebook

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Episode 24: Finding a Family Navigator with Guest Colette Cox

In this episode, we discuss family navigators. Colette explains that family navigators are people who can help you navigate through and find resources for your child who has special needs and for your family. They are people who can support you when no one else is able. They can help with referrals, education, and 1:1 planning. They know all the ins and outs of everything special needs, and they have been through it all themselves. Family navigators can even attend IEP meetings with you if desired. Some have created peer mentor services as well. She noted that she feels that the hardest system to navigate is the school system. To navigate the school system, it is important to learn how to communicate your vision for school and your child's future. When attending an IEP meeting, it can be helpful to bring notes that you have prepared, bring information about what your child excels at, and be an active participant. Find other parents who have been through this, and utilize Facebook groups, podcasts, and youtube videos that can help you navigate the school system. To help realize your vision of the future, think of your goals and then create next steps. For states that don't have a peer navigator, consider going to your county boards or bureaus of special health needs and asking why this doesn't exist in your area. Parent to parent USA, also has helpful resources.

Links: Colette Cox Podcast: Building Buchanan National Community of Practice Charting the Life Course  Wright's Law Parent to Parent USA

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Episode 23: Finding and Building a Village With Guest Amy Neilsen

In this episode, we discuss finding and building a village, otherwise known as a support network. Amy wrote her book at her lowest point of parenthood. She initially saw autism as an obstacle. She planned for her son to go to ABA for 6 weeks with the expectation that the autism symptoms would remit and then he would be able to go to preschool in the fall. However, things did not go as planned. Her friends were in completely different places emotionally, so she temporarily ended friendships. She decided to seek therapy, particularly with a therapist who worked with families where a member had a developmental disability. She found therapy very helpful, and she learned that she was judging herself for feeling ill equipped for being a special needs parents and that it was ok for her to not have all the answers. She also learned that she needed to build a support system. She found that finding a support network helped her find important answers that she needed to find to feel better equipped as a parent. Amy suggests that one's village should have many layers. Your village should include yourself (including time for self-care and meeting your own needs), your home (getting your home organized and uncluttered), family (physical or emotional support), friends (within the special needs community and outside of the special needs community), professionals (who are experts in areas in which you are not), and nonprofit organizations. The nonprofit organizations offer a lot of resources that can be very helpful. Online Facebook groups can also be good resources. The best way to start building your village is to make a list of every person that you consider someone that is or could be part of your support system, and try to figure out how to move that person from a small part of your support system to a larger part of your support system. Her favorite self-care strategies include taking a bath, doing a skin-care regimen every day, physical activity while her son takes a shower, fitness classes, texting with friends, and talking with friends over Facebook.

Links: Amy Neilsen Blog and Podcast Facebook Group  It Takes A Village Book 

Their Stories

Autism Society  Easter Seals  Autism Speaks  Special Needs Alliance  Early Signs of Autism https://www.autismspeaks.org/signs-autism https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/Autism/Pages/Early-Signs-of-Autism-Spectrum-Disorders.aspx https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/signs.html MCHAT Free Autism Online Assessment  Far From The Tree

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Episode 29: Getting Kicked Out Of School

In this episode, we discuss getting kicked out of school. Benji's school initially stated that they were inclusive and wanted to work with us to make sure he was successful in preschool. However, as of this new school year, they have not been allowing the ABA therapists to do their job. This is leading the school to say that they aren't helping, and that Benji's behavior has decline. However, they haven't been willing to listen to us. We are working to figure out what we can do to work as a team and to keep him in that school, but we are also looking at other options.

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Episode 22: Managing Multiple Medical Conditions in Children With Guest Rob Gorski

In this episode, we discuss coping with managing your child's multiple medical conditions. Our guest, Rob Gorski, has 3 sons on the autism spectrum. Although they each have autism, their symptoms are all very different, and two sons have other medical conditions as well. One son holds only a diagnosis of autism. One son has a rare fever disorder. His oldest son, Gavin, has Childhood Disintegrative Disorder, epilepsy, an autonomic disorder, Common Variable Immunodeficiency (CVID), asthma, and schizophrenia. His oldest son's disorders have led to multiple hospitalizations to assist with management of the conditions, lasting up to 10 days each.

It is exhausting to manage multiple conditions. Luckily, his oldest son rarely gets sick, due to IVIG infusions. However, when he gets sick, this may lead to a hospital stay. His youngest sons get sick frequently, and were recently sick for 3-4 weeks with various conditions and multiple people in his home were sick at the same time. In order to fight off infections, Rob's son requires IVIG infusions twice weekly to stay healthy. Other than 1-2 weekly psychotherapy sessions, there are medication checks and other medical appointments, adding to up to 13-14 medical appointments per week. There is usually at least one appointment every day. Luckily, there haven't been many recent ER visits for any of his children, although there were a lot of visits when Gavin was younger, due to self-injurious behavior. Medication changes need to be managed for Gavin very carefully, or they can lead to ER visits due to adverse reactions to the medications. Gavin needs regular bloodwork (every 1-4 weeks). If there is a problem, the routine starts all over again. Although his son's condition is relatively well-managed currently, they are working on finding ways to improve his quality of life.

It can be very difficult to parent children with multiple conditions, because their needs are all conflicting and the needs may be upsetting to the other children. Each child copes with difficulties differently. Although there are lots of aspects to managing his medical conditions, Gavin never complains about his medical management. Rob finds that he feels that he feels he copes poorly, but others tell him he appears to be coping well. Therefore, other people don't help as much as he needs, because they think he is doing well. Writing and doing his podcast helps him to cope. Walking really helps him to cope, and he usually listens to a podcast, the news, or an audiobook. Respite care has not worked for him, as he feels less anxious when his children around him and in his care. A strong social support network has been very helpful and important to him and his family. The exhaustion has been very difficult for Rob, especially now being a single parent. In order to cope, he tries to find humor in everything, he laughs, he smiles, he jokes around. He noted that self-care is imperative, because caregiver burnout is a huge issue.

Links: Autism Dad Website Autism Dad Podcast Twitter

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Episode 21: Outings With Kids

In this episode, we discuss how in the world to get out of the house with children with special needs. One of the problems is that each kid changes so frequently, that what worked a week ago, may no longer work this weekend. Going out somewhere is a lot of work. However, it is really a necessity for us. Benji is very aggressive, especially at home. Plus, staying at home for more than an hour causes the children to become very restless and they destroy the house. Therefore, we need to go out. But there are so many things that need to be packed, and inevitably, something important is missing. We like going to places that are outside, because the children like space to run and it gives them lots of options. Places inside tend to set off meltdowns and aggression, so we avoid them. We cannot go to quiet places or places where they are expected to sit still or behave. Those have gone poorly. Although we would like to say that we go places for the kids, it is really to physically protect everyone involved from getting hurt and losing their minds. When we go out, we have to go somewhere where the items we need to bring do not fill up more car space than we have. Therefore, places like to pool and the beach are no-gos. When we are out in public, Alex is usually well behaved. Benji can be well behaved, but he becomes overwhelmed and overstimulated very easily, and therefore, he won't eat, he runs around a lot, elopes, and he becomes very quickly and easily fatigued. We tend to be sweaty messes in public, covered in food, hair sticking out in every direction, and with a huge mental load. It is stressful, but again, worth it. We try to cope with being out by being in the moment and holding hands with the kids. It is hard to do, but it works.

Links: Autism Disclosure Cards

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Episode 20: Emotional Development with Guest Emily Davis In this episode, we discuss cerebral palsy and emotional development. Emily's son has hemiplegic cerebral palsy. From that condition, he has minor physical limitations and he has had to wear braces on his legs and have surgery on his achilles tendon. However, his disability mainly manifests in feeling big emotions and having difficulty managing those emotions. Her son is aware when his emotions become big, but he still struggles to manage his emotions in the moment. No matter the emotion, he tends to experience them in a very big way. Communication is a must between Emily and her fiance in order to know how to assist in managing her son's emotions on a daily basis. These large emotions affect Emily and her family by worrying that her other children are not obtaining the attention they need and the family is less able to engage in activities the family wants to do because there is so much navigation of her son's emotions. Unfortunately, bullying has been a problem for her son in school, and due to his big emotions, he has been more susceptible to following what the bullies ask of him.

As a family, in order to manage the intensity of the emotions, the family talks about emotions frequently, they talk about how what we think influences what we get in life, they use crystals to help them sit with their emotions, and they use a "calm down" rock to use as an anchor point to focus their energy. They go on a walk and find an object and put their emotions in it and bury the object. They also have family meetings on a weekly basis and are all very open with their emotions. For her son specifically, when he is experiencing big emotions, he goes outside and plays. He also does Tae Kwon Do and soccer.

Emily has found that connecting with intuition has greatly helped her son, by using his emotions to guide him to do things (what is his gut telling him to do, how does the emotion feel in his body). They set goals for themselves during the new moon, and during the full moon they talk about things that they want to let go of that month. Emily makes sure that she always lets her children talk about their emotions and their experiences, to ensure that their experiences are not minimized. Emily always shows her emotions to her children to ensure that they see that emotions are normal and that it is healthy to express emotions. Instead of grounding their children, when her children act poorly, they are required to fill out a packet of questions that require them to reflect on their behavior and what they could have done differently, and it is up to the children how long they are "on restriction."

Links: Emily Davis: Instagram  Facebook  Website  Perceptionists Anonymous: https://www.instagram.com/perceptionistsanonymous https://anchor.fm/perceptionists-anonymous https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perceptionists-anonymous/id1481128773?uo=4

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