Thumb Trotting

Parents Are Human co-founder Joseph Lam shares the remarkable journey of creating a card game that's transforming family relationships across cultures and languages. What started as a personal solution to connect with immigrant parents has evolved into a global tool for deeper conversations in 15+ languages. Through raw and vulnerable discussions about family estrangement, healing, and reconciliation, Joseph reveals how neutral conversations can build the foundation for harder ones. The conversation takes unexpected turns into entrepreneurship, museum archival techniques, and authentic sales approaches, before culminating in a live demonstration of the game between the hosts and Joseph. At its heart, this episode explores how simple questions can bridge the gaps in our most complex relationships, reminding us that everyone - parents included - is fundamentally human. A powerful conversation about family, forgiveness, and the courage to create new patterns of connection.

Film school graduate turned audio storyteller Camara Rauen shares her journey from directing musicals to teaching the intimate art of podcasting. Through stories of transforming a stage musical into a podcast during the pandemic and creating connection-focused workshops, Camara explores how audio formats can bring people together in an increasingly digital world. Join hosts Charley and Andrew for a wide-ranging conversation about the power of intentional conversation, the delicate balance between authenticity and technology, and why sometimes the simplest medium can create the deepest human connections. The episode takes unexpected turns into discussions of childhood media exposure, culinary artistry, and the evolution of modern storytelling – all unified by the theme of using audio to build genuine human connection.

Lauren Wine joins us to talk about her passion for paying attention, whether it's on a stage, at a restaurant or anything between. We talk the music industry, hospitality and even first crushes.

Charley's actual psychiatrist joins the show to launch season 2. Integrative Psychiatrist Dr. Jasdeep Sandhu guides us through conversations about the head, the heart, the gut and how important it's becoming to stay present in a world full of distractions.

Andrew and Charley break down ya know like, how they feel about doing a podcast together. Are they tired? Burned out? Why is editing so much work?

Jared and Kylee Thatcher talk to us about their ultimate farm life where they entertain and host, teach knife making, dog training, woodworking and more!

We talk Elton John, Papa John's, all the Johns.

Eric Martino goes thumbtrotting with us to talk about his career, lessons learned, and what's next. This episode has a great focus on leadership, valuing people over profits, and the joys of coaching.

Rich joins us for a wonderful conversation about money, community and as it happens often - Food!

Nibras Ibnomer joins us to talk transience, community, wellness and more!