Justin joins Paul again this week, which means Paul didn’t have to sit there talking to himself—thankfully. They both covered a lot, from general frustration with career prospects (or lack of them) to why Paul can’t bring myself to support Scotland, Ireland, or Wales in sport. Let’s just say their deep-seated hatred for the English makes it pretty easy.

Justin wanted to have a deep, mind-expanding conversation about time and space, but honestly, Paul found it painfully dull—which somehow became the perfect thumbnail material. Meanwhile, they’ve fully embraced injecting classic 80s TV adverts into the podcast every 20 minutes, mostly because they’re more entertaining than the hosts.

They also got into a proper debate about the minimum wage. Justin thinks it’s necessary; Paul think it’s a disaster. No surprises there.

It’s another episode of Man on the Sofa, where both Paul and Justin dive into whatever comes up and try to make sense of it all.