Walking into a factory farm is like going through a dimensional portal into hell. But this conversation will show you something surprising about going to hell: it’s well worth the trip.

David Ramms is one of the funniest, most intelligent activists out there. But he’s also one of the bravest. He has been inside factory farms across Europe, and what he’s learned is that there’s immense power in seeing firsthand what’s happening in the dark. We talk in this conversation about how we can get more people to have that experience – and develop vegan superpowers, of a sort.

But this conversation goes in a thousand other directions, too. From the meaning of nonviolence to the dangers of infiltration, this was one of the most compelling conversations I’ve had. Let me know what you think! And make sure to follow David’s important work.

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Chapters:

Chapter 1 00:00-18:18 Intro, handling with intense conversations, & gas chambers used in animal agriculture

Chapter 2 18:19-32:11 Everyone already eats vegan food, necessity defense, & survival situations

Chapter 3 32:12-1:00:52 “Pignorant” campaign (with Joey Carbstrong), David as an activist, Wayne’s first attempted rescue, ag-gag laws, & investigations

Chapter 4 1:00:53-1:14:48 Wayne & David on nonviolence in the movement

Chapter 5 1:14:49-1:34:43 How David became an activist and investigator, open model activism, trust, infiltration, & actions

Chapter 6 1:34:44-1:45:56 More on the “Pignorant” campaign (with Joey Carbstrong & Tarion Partridge)

Chapter 71:45:57-1:54:26 Final thoughts: Get out there with the vegan/animals rights message & be prepared

Chapter 8 1:54:27-1:54:46 Outro video - Thank you for watching!