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Melissa Muehlfeld spent years inside traditional finance and crypto, from securities law and Morgan Stanley to serving as General Counsel at OKX.

Today, she is Co-Founder and Co-CEO of ShredPay, where she is building onchain infrastructure for individuals and financial institutions.

In this episode of Token for Your Thoughts, Melissa shares why she believes trust remains one of the biggest barriers to U.S. crypto adoption, and why banks could play an important role in what comes next.

We discuss:

• Melissa’s path from traditional finance to crypto
• What she learned from working inside OKX during a turbulent period for the industry
• Why trust still limits crypto adoption in the U.S.
• Why banks are starting to hear more demand for stablecoin infrastructure from commercial customers
• What financial institutions need before they can offer crypto products
• Why ShredPay built compliance and non-custodial infrastructure into the product from day one
• Whether permissionless finance and institutional adoption can coexist
• Why Melissa believes the next 12 to 18 months could be pivotal for the industry

If you're interested in stablecoins, banking, crypto infrastructure, or the next phase of adoption, this conversation looks at where those worlds are starting to converge.

Connect with Melissa:

X: @mmuehlfeld
Website: https://www.shredpay.com

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🎙️ Rashan Colbert, Director of U.S. Policy at the Crypto Council for Innovation
🕒 ~40 mins

Ever wondered how a crypto bill actually becomes law?

It's probably not what you think.

Before joining the Crypto Council for Innovation, Rashan Colbert worked in the U.S. Senate, on two presidential campaigns, and at dYdX. Today, he helps lawmakers understand crypto and helps the crypto industry navigate Washington.

In this episode, we pull back the curtain on how crypto policy really gets made.

We discuss:

• What actually happens behind the scenes before a crypto bill reaches Congress
• Why writing legislation is far messier—and slower—than most people realize
• The surprising ways lawmakers gather information before making decisions
• Why regulatory clarity matters for founders, builders, investors, and everyday users
• How the Crypto Council for Innovation gets competing crypto companies working toward shared policy goals
• The difference between market structure and stablecoin legislation, without the legal jargon
• Rashan's journey from political campaigns and the U.S. Senate to crypto policy
• Why crypto is giving lawmakers the rare opportunity to write rules for an entirely new technology

Whether you're building in crypto, investing in digital assets, or simply curious about how decisions get made in Washington, this conversation offers a fascinating look at the people and processes shaping the industry's future.

Connect with Rashan & the Crypto Council for Innovation

🌐 https://cryptoforinnovation.org
🐦 X: @Rashan

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When Zach Zukowski was 11 years old, his dad gave him $500 to invest in the stock market. That decision sparked an interest in markets that eventually led him to reading company earnings reports as a teenager, secretly mining cryptocurrency using university computers, becoming the first hire at Borderless Capital, and today founding Tokenization Systems.

In this episode of Token for Your Thoughts, Zach shares his unconventional journey into crypto, why he believes tokenization is one of the biggest opportunities in financial markets, and why simply putting traditional assets on-chain isn't enough.

We discuss:

• How a $500 investment changed the course of his career
• The story behind his college crypto mining experiment
• Why he became obsessed with Bitcoin after discovering the white paper during an internship
• What he learned from researching tokenomics and advising more than 100 blockchain projects
• Why tokenization is about much more than putting assets on a blockchain
• The hidden risks institutions should consider when designing tokenized products
• Why he has been publishing research and submitting comment letters on stablecoin regulation to U.S. regulators
• Why the way tokenized products are designed today could determine who benefits from the next generation of financial infrastructure

If you're interested in digital assets, stablecoins, tokenization, or how financial infrastructure is evolving, this conversation offers a thoughtful look at where the industry is headed and the choices that could shape its future.

Connect with Zach:

• X: @CryptoZach
• Website: https://tokenization.systems

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🎙️ Kurt Hemecker, CEO of Gold Token S.A. (DGLD) 
🕒 ~40 mins

Gold has been trusted for 5,000 years. It has also been completely impossible to use. You can't lend it, fractionalize it, or move it at 2 am. Kurt Hemecker, who helped build the internet's money layer at PayPal and survived the most ambitious monetary experiment in history at Facebook's Libra, thinks blockchain finally fixes that.

In this episode:

• How tokenization makes gold programmable, usable as collateral, and accessible to everyone
• The difference between DGLD and a gold ETF (you actually own the gold)
• How you can redeem DGLD for physical gold starting at one gram, shipped to your door
• Why crypto natives parking funds in stablecoins might be contradicting their own beliefs
• What Libra taught Kurt about building financial infrastructure that governments will actually allow
• How geopolitical instability and dollar debasement are creating the perfect moment for digital gold

If you care about RWAs, the future of money, or what it takes to bring a 5,000-year-old asset into the digital economy, this one's for you.

🔹 Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kurt-hemecker-of-dgld-on-bringing-one-of-the/id1799063494?i=1000773309384&l=fr-FR
🔹 Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/episode/3B1a8MaLk2aSVigblEBM4F
🔹 YouTube → https://youtu.be/XRY0g-9E-lU

Connect with Kurt & DGLD 
🌐 dgld.ch 
🐦 X: @khem | @DGLD_Official

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🎙️ Simon Jones, CEO & Co-Founder of Reya Labs 
🕒 ~45 mins

Only 3% of perp trading happens on Ethereum despite it holding the majority of DeFi's assets. Simon Jones built Reya to fix that: a trading-specific based rollup delivering sub-millisecond execution without sacrificing Ethereum's security.

In this episode:

• Why speed and decentralization have always been a tradeoff, and how Reya solved it
• The structural disconnect: why institutions settle on Ethereum but trade elsewhere
• How agentic trading is already shifting who uses Reya and how
• RWA perps: bringing gold, equities, and commodities onchain
• From McKinsey to fintech startups to DeFi builder

If you care about onchain trading infrastructure, institutional DeFi, or where crypto markets are heading, this one's for you.

🔹 Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/simon-jones-of-reya-on-building-a-dex-fast-enough/id1799063494?i=1000770067821
🔹 Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Fr8MoxFma8tHLrk0SD9gO?si=Ien-cKpJQ129dZETPtqvOA
🔹 YouTube → https://youtu.be/RwFGfcVICiM

Connect with Simon & Reya 
🌐 reya.xyz 
🐦 X: @0xSimonJones | @reya_xyz

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🎙️ Guest: Seth Hallem, CEO of Certora
 🕒 Duration: ~45 mins

Episode Overview

Crypto runs 24/7.

Capital moves instantly. Logic executes automatically. There’s no closing bell, and no overnight reset.

But most protocol teams don’t have 10,000 people monitoring security like a global bank.

In this episode of Token for Your Thoughts, Lindsey McConaghy sits down with Seth Hallem, CEO of Certora, to talk about what it actually takes to secure always-on financial systems, especially when your team is small, and the stakes are high.

Seth’s background spans decades in software quality, static analysis, cybersecurity, and enterprise security. Before joining Certora, he founded multiple venture-backed companies and built security systems for highly regulated industries where failures aren’t bugs, they’re front-page events.

Today, Certora works with leading protocols like Lido, Aave, Uniswap, and Compound to help validate code, architecture, and operational controls before serious capital is at risk.

They get into:

• Seth’s journey from static analysis to formal verification
• Why audits alone don’t solve systemic risk
• What “continuous, layered” security actually looks like in practice
• The gap between a 20-person protocol team and a 10,000-person bank security department
• Why private key compromise is often the weakest link
• The institutional questions around tokenization, stablecoins, and onchain settlement
• Takeaways from Certora’s 2025 Momentum Report
• What it means to make financial software “institution-ready”

If you’re building financial infrastructure, or planning to scale serious capital, this episode offers a clear look at how security matures as systems grow.

Where to Listen

🔹 Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/securing-24-7-finance-without-a-10-000-person/id1799063494?i=1000751782661
🔹 Spotify → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sTPCtHFIq0
🔹 YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sTPCtHFIq0

Connect with Certora & Seth

🌐 Website: https://www.certora.com/

🐦 X: @Certora

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🎙️ Guest: Stephanie Vaughan, Co-Founder & COO of Veda
 🕒 Duration: ~35 mins

Episode Overview

DeFi moves quickly. Narratives change.

Infrastructure is what holds it all together.

In this episode of Token for Your Thoughts, Lindsey McConaghy sits down with Stephanie Vaughan, Co-Founder & COO of Veda, to talk about what it takes to build vault infrastructure that can adapt to crypto’s constant evolution.

Stephanie’s background spans the Naval Academy, five years in the Marine Corps (including Operation Enduring Freedom), investment banking, fintech, and eventually crypto. That mix of discipline and financial experience shaped how she approached building Veda.

Today, Veda provides vault infrastructure for partners like EtherFi and other DeFi platforms, enabling dynamic yield strategies without users needing to actively manage multiple protocols themselves.

They get into:

• Stephanie’s transition from military service to crypto
 • Why Veda focused on infrastructure instead of going direct-to-consumer
 • The difference between static vaults and dynamic, rebalancing strategies
 • Scaling through partnerships
 • The realities of institutional adoption, compliance, and AML
 • Why founders should solve a real problem, not just improve something marginally

If you’re interested in how crypto infrastructure is built and scaled, this episode breaks it down clearly.

Where to Listen

🔹 Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-problem-with-static-defi-vaults-and-what/id1799063494?i=1000750433814
🔹 Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/episode/3GBJB4KJQ2Rbm4QU5NHP2H?si=z5fRQKhMSQGrPJTqz4xuiQ
🔹 YouTube → https://youtu.be/Rep40Lkyro8

Connect with Veda & Stephanie

🌐 Website: https://veda.tech/
 🐦 X: @veda_labs, @GoodStephV

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🎙️ Guest: Enzzo Cusihuaman, Co-Founder & Chief Business Officer of R2 Protocol (@r2yield)
🕒 Duration: ~45 minutes

Episode Overview

The best yields in finance have always been reserved for institutions. Everyone else gets scraps.

In this episode of Token for Your Thoughts, host Lindsey McConaghy sits down with Enzzo Cusihuaman, Co-Founder and CBO of R2 Protocol, to unpack how tokenized treasuries and private credit are changing that reality. R2 is building an on-chain yield layer that gives everyday users access to institutional-grade returns historically locked behind capital requirements, compliance hurdles, and closed doors.

Enzzo shares his path from traditional businesses in Peru to early crypto adoption, Binance, and ultimately co-founding R2. The conversation dives deep into real-world assets, private credit, and why transparency, risk management, and global distribution matter if on-chain yield is going to scale beyond crypto natives.

They break down how R2 aggregates tokenized treasuries and private credit into composable DeFi vaults, how risk is curated and disclosed, and why developing markets in Latin America, Asia, and Africa are core to their strategy, not an afterthought.

They get into:

• Enzzo’s journey from Latin American family businesses to Binance and building R2
• Why institutional yield rarely reaches retail and how tokenization changes that
• Treasury bills vs. private credit: risk, return, and real tradeoffs
• How R2 curates institutional partners like BlackRock-linked issuers, Apollo, and Mercado Bitcoin
• Why private credit unlocks higher on-chain yield than treasuries alone
• Transparency, attestations, and how risk is managed on-chain
• Who R2 is built for: retail users, institutions, and fintechs in emerging markets
• The biggest bottlenecks holding RWA adoption back in Web3
• What it takes to bridge TradFi discipline with DeFi composability

If you care about real yield, tokenized credit, or what it actually takes to bring institutional finance on-chain without breaking DeFi’s ethos, this episode is for you.

Where to Listen

🔹 Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/enzzo-cusihuaman-of-r2-protocol-on-making/id1799063494?i=1000746401683
🔹 Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/episode/1yfsXZvqKvh3vTyaG4XXom?si=P0h6x5KFQbyfIOXbZosbGQ

Connect with R2 & Enzzo

🌐 Website: r2.money
🐦 X: @r2yield | @crypto_enzzo

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🎙️ Guest: Adam Kazas, CEO of Gero Wallet (@AdamFromGero)
🕒 Duration: ~41 minutes

Crypto wallets have improved a lot, but plenty still feel built for power users. In this episode, Lindsey McConaghy chats with Adam Kazas, CEO of @GeroWallet, about building a wallet (and dashboard) that’s actually usable day to day, without giving up self-custody.

Adam shares his path from tech support → product → “building crypto at night,” plus Gero’s origin story: his team found a bug in the original wallet, shipped a fix, built trust with the team, then acquired the IP and rebuilt the product from the ground up.

They also dig into a big real-world headache: paying for Web2 life with Web3 funds - why Gero is focused on closing that gap with ADA cashback and the Cardano-powered crypto card.

In this episode:

• From side project to full-time founder
• How Gero evolved from collaboration to acquisition + rebuild
• What “non-custodial” should feel like for normal users
• ADA cashback + the Gero card
• Cardano Shield security checks, privacy, and compliance
• What’s next: accounting tools, Bitcoin DeFi, Midnight support

Where to Listen

🔹 Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/turning-onchain-value-into-real-world-spending-adam/id1799063494?i=1000745356451
🔹 Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/episode/1TMGJs768pbtasHuX5pTlC?si=b1cea7fc1ad74862
🔹 YouTube → https://youtu.be/0VkHZiB8hUw

Connect with Gero: gerowallet.io | @GeroWallet | @AdamFromGero on X
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🎙️ Guest: Rolf Versluis, Co-founder of Horizen (@horizenglobal)
🕒 Duration: ~42 minutes

Episode Overview

Public blockchains unlock composability, liquidity, and open infrastructure, but they also put every transaction on display. For builders and businesses, that transparency can be a dealbreaker: competitors can trace customers, vendors can infer pricing, and payroll becomes a public ledger.

In this episode, Lindsey McConaghy sits down with Rolf Versluis, co-founder of Horizen, to talk about why privacy can’t be an “either/or” choice, and how Horizen is building toward selective, auditable privacy as a privacy-first L3 on Base. Rolf shares his unusual path into crypto, from serving as a U.S. Navy submarine officer and nuclear engineer, to scaling a Cisco networking business, to early Bitcoin mining, before co-founding Horizen (originally ZenCash) to bring business-grade privacy to onchain payments.

They dig into why stablecoins in their current form still don’t meet the needs of many real-world businesses, the lessons Horizen learned navigating regulatory constraints, and the technical toolkit powering privacy today, from TEEs and ZK proofs to MPC and fully homomorphic encryption.

They get into:
• Rolf’s journey from Navy submarines to Cisco to Bitcoin mining and building in crypto
• What “business-level privacy” means, and why it matters for adoption
• Why Horizen migrated ZEN to Base and launched a privacy-first L3 appchain
• The compliance challenge: selective disclosure, auditability, and regulation-friendly design
• The privacy stack in plain English: TEEs, ZKPs, FHE, and MPC, and their tradeoffs
• Why many businesses still won’t use stablecoins (yet) without privacy
• Horizen’s grants program and what they look for in builders (aspirin, not vitamins)
• Founder lessons on surviving cycles, managing runway, and solving real problems outside Web3

If you’re building in payments, stablecoins, identity, or privacy infrastructure, and you’re thinking about what it takes to bring serious businesses onchain, this episode is for you.

Where to Listen

🔹 Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-privacy-practical-rolf-versluis-on-bringing/id1799063494?i=1000742523713
🔹 Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/episode/2T8LtH4uDfJXtlFZZtA7by?si=40c00fc77472473e
🔹 YouTube → https://youtu.be/PviLtKtDyQM

Connect with Horizen & Rolf

🌐 horizen.io
🐦 X: @horizenglobal

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