Ember and Kirby welcome Tommy (Kirby's co-parenting partner) to the show. Tommy shares his perspective on Kirby coming out and how he was able to get to the place he is today. Tommy dives into how he realized Ember was Kirby's girlfriend before they even realized. He opens up about how he grieved his relationship with Kirby. And shares how he is doing today with Ember visiting and staying at their house.

**This episode was recorded live in person while Ember was visiting Kirby. The full episode is recorded on video and available on Patreon (on various tiers; early access $20, regular access $12 & $9)