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What if the real force shaping your faith isn’t love… but shame?

We rarely talk about it, but shame drives how we see ourselves, how we relate to God, and how we show up in the world. It hides beneath perfectionism, people-pleasing, and even spirituality, quietly scripting how we live.

In this episode, we talk with Toni Kim, Director of Spiritual Care for the National Association of Evangelicals, who’s spent years studying how shame forms us and how freedom and healing is possible. Toni helps us unpack how to recognize shame’s voice, why it’s so powerful, and what freedom looks like when we finally name it.

This isn’t a conversation about guilt or failure. It’s about the transformative impact of healing.

You’ll discover:

• The subtle ways shame disguises itself as spirituality
• How shame shapes your inner life without you realizing it
• Why real spiritual growth begins with honesty, not performance
• Practical ways to move from shame to wholeness

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