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This week we dive headfirst into the great horror debate: can PG-13 horror movies actually be good… or are we all just kidding ourselves? We break down why we usually worship at the altar of R-rated gore, what PG-13 gets wrong (and sometimes surprisingly right), and which “kiddie-friendly” horror flicks still manage to scare the absolute hell out of us.

From iconic near-classics to the ones that feel like they were sanitized with Purell, we’re talking all things PG-13 terror — the highs, the lows, and the jump scares that actually landed.

If you’ve ever argued that “a real horror movie needs blood,” this episode is for you.