Episode 13: Neighborhood Church Pt. 5

Tweetable Quotes:

Give everyone the what before you give them the why before anything else. - Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

Being connected to a team makes you know you aren’t alone. - Robert CortesClick To Tweet

The best leaders have a working experience themselves. They need the practical experience of running a neighborhood church themselves. – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

God is big enough, and He can manage the moment. – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

Not everything is started has to continue forever. – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

Taking care of your team should be your first priority, then they will take care of anyone who shows up. – Robert CortesClick To Tweet

This is the biggest opportunity to build loyalty and love right now. – Robert CortesClick To Tweet

About Episode 13:

This is the final conversation of a string of discussions about neighborhood churches. In another lifetime, we called these Microsites. Still, with the global pandemic, we thought this was a perfect time to open the hood showing you what we are doing at Torrey Pines Church that is greatly inspired by Saddleback Church that is part of a network of churches called Eastlake Church Network.

This is a look at our phased regathering plan of neighborhood churches.

For the last 11 weeks, we’ve all been doing home churches, and we’ve been watching with our families or our roommates.

Listen at 1:45 for how this is playing out.

Phase 2 is neighborhood churches gathering together and joining together in a community of a dozen.

If you are listening as a leader or thinking of launching one, this is for you. You will learn how to roll this out and how to connect with your teams.

Start with a recorded video, recorded podcast, or a writeup about what is a neighborhood church. Give them a 1-page document or a landing page that details what a neighborhood church is.

Listen at 4 minutes for what this looks like.

“Give everyone the what before you give them the why before anything else.” - Mingo

Step 2 - Rightly prepare for the volume of churches.

If you are launching 1 church or 100 churches, you need to identify neighborhood churches. It’s very similar to a “groups” model, but it is more robust. You are giving the Sunday sermon to the neighborhood church.

“Being connected to a team makes you know you aren’t alone.” - Robert

You should meet with your leader once a week. You’d meet close to where the site meets at a coffee shop. But a lot of the time, the leaders are seeing how they are doing.

Listen at 7:15 to what Robert did at his first time serving at a microsite with restaurant background.

Robert started as a volunteer just helping then moved to the neighborhood host, then a service host, and then he was coaching 8 churches at the same time.

“The best leaders have a working experience themselves. They need the practical experience of running a neighborhood church themselves”. - Mingo

Some you help more, but many will be good with less coaching, and they don’t need you.

Identify a coach or a set of coaches who have made missions trips. These people are coolers and who can see clearly in chaos.

Step 3 - Make Personal Asks

Provide a signup funnel for current viewers and attenders to launch a neighborhood church.

Listen at 11 minutes to hear different examples of what this looks like.

When you make a personal ask, the commitment is so much more profound.

Be ready to host a training for everyone interested.

Step 4 - Host a Zoom or have them listen to these five podcasts.

Call it “training,” and people will take it more seriously. It is formal. Tell them you went through the training,

Episode 12: Neighborhood Church Pt. 4

In this episode, Mingo outlines how neighborhood churches can serve the people they’re in proximity to. We value being “For” our neighborhoods on a regular basis. This conversation gives some examples and some clarity to how we will serve our communities on a regular rhythm.

Tweetable Quotes:

Maybe you are more open to doing something with your hands than your heart. Or maybe with your head. Have a posture of service. - Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

They are seen, and they are loved. You are one of the steps God is using for their transformation. – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

You would experience amazing God-inspired events. You’d be so surprised by that one person will pay it forward, and you will find yourself with God in those moments. - Robert CortesClick To Tweet

You will grow your faith, and you will experience God in a new way. - Robert CortesClick To Tweet

About Episode 12:

Robert Cortes and Mingo are doing a deep dive into the neighborhood church model. Start at the beginning and listen to all the podcasts. At the time of this recording, we’ve been sheltering in place and now can regather.

Today we are talking about outreach and how to pivot your neighborhood church to serve the neighborhood where it lives. Be that neighborhood’s care focal point.

Have a “For Neighborhood,” so be for Terra Santa. Be for your neighborhood events and your neighborhood events. For the last Sunday of the month, replace the post-service discussion with a “For Neighborhood” Service Project. Think about how your neighborhood church can do something good for your neighborhood, a family, a nonprofit, or a local business.

Listen at 3:55 for a list of examples.

Use this as a top of the funnel experience for those who aren’t so comfortable coming to a backyard or neighborhood church experience.

“Maybe you are more open to doing something with your hands than your heart. Or maybe with your head. Have a posture of service.” - Mingo

Put yourself out there. Celebrate the win that you offered to help a dozen homes around your neighborhood church.

Robert and Mingo share a funny story at 7:50 how they pivoted when no one showed up.

Give your neighbors touch that they are seen and loved. You are one of the steps God is using for their transformation.” - Mingo

Shannon wrote, “Hope Sent Letters,” that was specific and vague at the same time. Then would place them at places at the gas pump or ask God which mailbox should I put this in? She’d take half a dozen letters and place them around.

Are you taking the “Hope Sent Challenge”?

“You would experience amazing God-inspired events. You’d be so surprised by that one person will pay it forward, and you will find yourself with God in those moments”. - Robert

Imagine 10 neighborhood churches meeting for one year that means 120 acts of service opportunities.

What you think will be a sacrifice; God will meet you in return.

“You will grow your faith, and you will experience God in a new way.” - Robert

Thank you for reading. If you haven’t yet, listen to all the podcasts in this series. We are streaming this on three podcasts. We are happy to keep the conversation going on 1-on-1 bases with your team.

Connect with the speaker, and check out the resources mentioned in this episode:

Microsite Ministry: https://micrositeministry.com/

Mingo's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mingo2/

Robert's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rebelfishlocal/

DM us if you’d like to be considered to be interviewed on the podcast.

Episode 11: Neighborhood Church Pt. 3

In this episode, you’ll hear the basics of neighborhood church team roles. What characteristics make a great team? Mingo and Robert detail 3 expectations that will make your services a great experience for everyone involved.

Tweetable Quotes:

The church is more than it’s places. It is about the people that make up the church. - Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

Just bless those who provided a blessing for you. – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

If they become leaders, they will replicate what they see. - Robert CortesClick To Tweet

When you are the church, and God puts someone in front of you, you can do something for them. - Robert CortesClick To Tweet

About Episode 11:

In this episode, we are diving deeper into the neighborhood church model. In part 3, we are diving into team expectations for those you invite to be on your team. What are those consistent qualities to keep at the front of your mind when executing a neighborhood church?

There are three basic expectations.

But first, let’s review if you haven’t caught the other episodes. Listen a the 1:15 minute mark.

What is a neighborhood church?

The best-sized neighborhood church is a dozen. It’s not about being the biggest, but the people are the best known.

Listen to ….The Values

Listen to…. To Learn Flow and Service Format

Let’s talk about team expectations.

When people ask when will you be reopening the church? Respond, “we’ve never been closed. We’ve never been more missional.

Expectation #1 - Be The Church

“The church is more than it’s places. It is about the people that make up the church.” - Mingo

BeTheChurch

Keep Being The Church at the forefront of your team and your neighborhood church. This means you should be involved in the service. Your team needs to sit and listen. They need to engage and worship.

Robert and Mingo talk about the opposite expressions when the team would only observe. Listen at 5:30 on the podcast.

“If they become leaders, they will replicate what they see.” - Robert

Expectation #2 - Mi Casa Su Casa

This means opening up a home for services is hugely generous. That as a team, get there early to set up and stay to make sure everything is cleaned up better than when you got there.

“Act like Jesus is knocking at the door. So leave the place better than when you got there.” - Robert

Ask questions. Are there spaces that you don’t want any guests to wander into? Which bathrooms do we use?

Don’t minimize the offering that they are opening their house.

Liz would come early and realized that the environment mattered. She respected that someone let them use a keycard and trusted them with collateral and a co-workspace to do church. It was always left better than when they got there.

“Just bless those who provided a blessing for you.” - Mingo

Expectation #3 - Something Beyond Sunday

The majority of neighborhood churches will happen on Sunday, but it doesn’t have to. All the material is available on YouTube. Let’s be intentional about getting contact info, praying for each other, following up with each other, is a service opportunity, and representing our “Being For Our Neighborhood” value.

You can make a calendar or a text thread to do “something beyond Sunday” with the people who attend your neighborhood church.

“When you are the church, and God puts someone in front of you, you can do something for them.” - Robert

Thanks for reading. We’ve done this for 52 weeks for three years as a ministry. We are here to support you.

Listen to the whole podcast and let us know how things are going with launching your neighborhood church by leaving us an iTunes review.

Episode 10: Neighborhood Church Pt. 2

In this episode you’ll hear core values that every neighborhood church will share. Follow along with Mingo as he details this out of the box concept and defines the format options, and the service flow of the neighborhood church model.

Tweetable Quotes:

You might make some new friends, deepen your relationships, or even meet your future spouse. - Robert CortesClick To Tweet

We believe at the core of our existence that the church didn’t close. We’ve become more missional, more loving, more purpose-driven than ever before – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

The best mission is when the person takes up the responsibility for the Biblical mandate to help another person find and follow Jesus. – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

Be the people God has put us in proximity to. – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

About Episode 10:

1:00 - Neighborhood Church defined

2:00 - Values of a neighborhood church

11:47 - values recapped

13:00 - Service Flow

24:00 - Final thoughts for the listeners

This is part 2 of a 5 part conversation about neighborhood churches. And what it looks like for a more substantial conversion of what it looks like to regather. This is from Mingo’s notebook, his playbook of what it looks like to regather at Torrey Pines Church in La Jolla, California. Several churches have been walking with us during “shelter in place” to “open for business.”

“We believe at the core of our existence that the church didn’t close. We’ve become more missional, more loving, more purpose-driven than ever before”. - Mingo

What’s a neighborhood church?

It’s gatherings of folks who gather by the dozens who collect in homes, dorms, parks, or backyards to host any particular church service.

A neighborhood church expresses five essential core values.

Read the last blog or listen to the previous podcast to learn the Service Format.

Today we are going through the Service Flow.

Think about this. What are the values of a neighborhood church? You need to understand what you hold so dear to your heart.

Our 5 Neighborhood Values:

Value #1: Mission - people helping people find and follow Jesus.

“The best mission is when the person takes up the responsibility for the Biblical mandate to help another person find and follow Jesus.” - Mingo

You should be on a call before your neighborhood church and another call after.

Value #2: Display and experience first hand that circles are always better than rows.

Some neighborhood churches and microsites got so big that they had to be in rows. But when you are in circles, everyone’s perspectives and position are valued here.

You get to demonstrate circles are better than rows physically.

If you have an iPhone and Bluetooth speaker, just listen then take planned breaks during the service.

Value #3: You Can Do It And We Can Help.

Right now, most churches aren’t meeting. Most churches are wrapped around the idea that we can do great things, and maybe you can help. BUT this neighborhood church model flips it on its head. We will be available before by call, during by text, and after as a team to talk about what you went through.

We are here to support your effort.

Value #4: Get To Experience Our Word For The Year WITH.

3 Experiences Of The Word WITH:

With God

With One Another (believers)

WIth Everyone (the world)

You’ll experience this as you get comfortable with leading this neighborhood church.

You will spend time with God preparing for this service and lots of time after praising Him for what He did.

Listen at 9:25 for all the ideas of how to invite and get people at your neighborhood church.

Think about,

Episode 9: Neighborhood Church Pt. 1

In this episode we define house churches, neighborhood churches, and community churches. We detail why each are distinctly different, and all have an ongoing place in our church context.

Tweetable Quotes:

Say, yes! Don’t look back and wonder what could have been. God has something for you right now. So why not take a chance. What’s the worst thing that could happen? - Robert CortesClick To Tweet

Have IC in YOU conversations that allow people to set up and serve. – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

Our hope is you create spaces where people feel welcomed, they feel seen, and walk away feeling valued and known. – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

About Episode 9:

00:01 > introduction of Mingo Palacios & Robert Cortes

3:25 > beginning for people already connected to our network.

7:51 > Neighborhood church defined.

12:10 > 3 Phases explained.

14:50 > Roles Explained. (Venue Host, Service Host, Hospitality)

21:00 > Service formats

option 1: plug and play

option 2: part live - part video

option 3: all live (teaching and/or worship)

25:56 > short recap

Last one: 27:00 > Proximity and geography

What do we do at this moment when they are speaking to churches to “regather”? I’m sure you’ve been more missional and open to pivoting during this time.

What’s the best route? Do we open, do we not?

Robert and Mingo use the microsite experience.

What is a neighborhood church verse a home church?

What’s the WHY behind the WHAT of a neighborhood church?

The past three months have been a blur. We’ve been doing a shelter in place church experiences with growth groups meeting over Zoom and youth meetings over Instagram and Tik Tok. We’ve been honoring the not coming together to respect our community and government.

Imagine gathering 3-5 families or households, and we are calling this a neighborhood church. The microsite model is being retooled into a neighborhood church to build it uniquely for your community.

Some benefits of microsites are to gather people who live in the neighborhood. You get to know your neighbor and get to know people who frequent the area.

Now in this season, people are concerned about their physical health…

A neighborhood church is “an open community that gathers by the dozens, connecting in homes, apartments, dorms, parks, and backyards to host particular services and churches.”

You aren’t getting together more than 20 folks.

You could also do this in a local business or a beach.

Right now, we are considering neighborhood churches and dealing with heavy restrictions here in California.

Make sure:

Everyone is masked

Everyone is 6 feet apart in all directions

You are only allowed up to 25% of that room’s capacity

Then you have to cap it at 100 individuals

Do you have a CONCERN? And are you saying “Hey, I want to run a church, but I don’t’ want to deal with all the things of running a service”...

Here are the essential components of running a microsite/neighborhood church. There will be three main roles, plus helping hands.

3 Roles of a Neighborhood Church:

Venue Host - they come to your condo or home, and you communicate with the team how many people we can have couches for.

Service Host - the logistics of what will go into an actual service. Be ready with a quick devo even if it doesn’t match the message, and you won’t fail. You need to know how the service will go...like two songs of worship, announcements, and we are studying the book of James, an opportunity to pray for people and discussion questions.

Service hosts, you just need to watch the YouTube video to prepare for the Sunday service.

EP. 08: THE "K" IN TEAMWORK IS FOR KEEP ON LEARNING

All leaders are learners. The moment you stop learning, you stop being a leader. As I consult with churches, I’ve seen that growing churches require growing leaders.

Another proverb says “The intelligent man is always open to new ideas. In fact, he looks for them.” (Proverbs 18:15, LB) Do you do that? Do you encourage your team members to keep on growing, developing, and learning? At Saddleback, our staff is constantly reading books and listening to tapes to sharpen their skills and develop their character.

If you practice these eight T.E.A.M.W.O.R.K. values with your team, you’ll experience a new level of teamwork in your church that will take your ministry to new heights.

QUOTABLE QUOTES

No one knows everything, but everyone knows something. – Tyler HoferClick To Tweet

Sometimes we fall short because we think we need to become masters of the thing. And you forget that God calls us to be great stewards of the people who come into our camp. And so don't stop learning. – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

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Tyler Hofer:

All right, we are at the final value letter for this talk. So you've made it all the way. I feel like we need a drum roll for this last one.

Mingo Palacios:

We did it! It's the last value.

Tyler Hofer:

So, we are on letter "K" and the value for that is knowledge. And really what we're talking about with this value is that as a leader, as someone who's in a position of leading teams or is on a team, you need to continually be learning in that position. And so I think we should've put leaders are learners or being a learner, but it doesn't fit with our acronym.

Mingo Palacios:

Right. Right. Yeah don't mess it up dude.

Carolina Corrales:

Don't mess it up.

Tyler Hofer:

But in Proverbs 18:15, it says that intelligent people are always ready to learn. You can underline always there. Not sometimes, but all the time they're continually learning and it says their ears are open for knowledge. And so some of the points that I want to talk about here is that no one knows everything, but everyone knows something. So in any team that we have, any environment, we need to understand that, that no one knows everything. No one is the all powerful source of knowledge on that topic.

Mingo Palacios:

Although some people might think they are.

Tyler Hofer:

Yeah.

Mingo Palacios:

But this is actually a great way to dispel that spirit of like, "Oh I am actually the carrier of all this information."

EP. 07: THE "R" IN TEAMWORK IS FOR RECOGNITION AND REWARD

The more credit you give to others, the more you develop team spirit. It’s that simple. The Bible says, “Give honor and respect to all those to whom it is due.” (Romans 13:7, LB)

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What gets recognized gets repeated. - Carolina CarrolesClick To Tweet

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Mingo Palacios:

What's next in the full acronym is we're making our way through teamwork. We're on "R" right?

Carolina Corrales:

We are. For recognition. And I really love what Romans 12:10 has to say about this.

Mingo Palacios:

Okay.

Carolina Corrales:

It says, "Love each other like brothers and sisters. Give each other more honor than you want for yourselves." And I really liked that because I feel like, you know, we were having a conversation about this earlier about how when I first started serving, I wanted recognition, I wanted people to know, to see what I was doing. And I think as I've matured over the years, that just went away. And I feel like I should be recognizing others for their good work.

Mingo Palacios:

Yeah. That's good.

Carolina Corrales:

What they're doing. It's not that I don't want to be recognized, it's just that I understand the value that that provides for a volunteer or somebody new that needs to feel that recognition because I was there once.

Mingo Palacios:

Yeah. That's good. And it's not that recognition is a bad thing, right? Scripture tells us, right. Proverbs 3:27, "Don't withhold good from those who deserve it when it's in your power to act." I think recognition fits inside of that. That statement that if you see something great, recognize it, speak it, vocalize it because how often are you doing something where you're wondering like, "Man, I wonder if this is doing good for the greater org?" And how much better it feels and we we're talking just about our feeling like when somebody goes, "Hey, I saw you doing that and that was solid." You know, recognition is one of the most powerful things we can use as a tool in ministry when it comes to how we operate inside and on teams.

Carolina Corrales:

Yeah. And I think what gets recognized gets repeated.

Mingo Palacios:

So true. Are you a parent?

Carolina Corrales:

I'm not.

Mingo Palacios:

But it's really true. I think of like when we have kids,

EP. 06: THE "O" IN TEAMWORK IS FOR OPEN COMMUNICATION

Open communication is the cornerstone of great teamwork. Proverbs 13:17 (LB) says "Reliable communication permits progress." There are three common barriers to great communication:

Presumption – How many problems have been caused by the phrase “But I assumed…”? Here are some fatal assumptions: assuming that there’s only one way to see a problem; assuming that everyone else feels just like you; assuming that someone will never change (they do); assuming that you can know someone else’s motives (you can’t).

Impatience ruins open communication because we are more interested in what we are going to say than listening to what others say. Impatience causes you to jump to conclusions.

Pride – When you think you know it all, you are resistant to feedback, and you become defensive instead of really listening to others and learning.

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Now this I would argue is one of the greatest ways that the enemy attacks a team or the health of a team: that we have a cloudy or convoluted communication. – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

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Mingo Palacios:

The next value in teamwork is actually "O". It's open communication. And I actually love the scripture reference that's brought out of this in Genesis 11. We've always heard, if you're like a part of church for any amount of time, you always know the Tower of Babel as a story of something that goes horribly wrong. But I love that it actually shows the power of open communication. In Genesis 11 it says this, "As if one people speaking at a speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan will be impossible for them." So it's articulating the idea that these people with one mission, one consistent language, one focal point had done something so significant that the author actually writes, nothing they planned would be impossible for them. That's the power that is able to be grasped or gotten or received when we understand what it means to use open communication. Now this I would argue is one of the greatest ways that the enemy attacks a team or the health of a team: that we have a cloudy or convoluted communication. And as a communication major, I'd like to think that there are some great tools that we can bring to the table as a team or some great values that we can give individuals in order to keep communication at its prime. So what are three blockages that we can experience as a team when it comes to communication? The first one is that we would grasp on to presumption, that we would presume things of people. And you and I both know, like when we start buying into that internal dialogue of what we think this other person is thinking or what we think what ought to be done or we think our own perspective is the only right perspective, we can instantly create blockages in communication. I don't think it takes very much for any of us to think of ways or times when we've come to an idea. We've come to a moment in our ministry, we've bought our own presumed best route and we've failed to realize, "Gosh, there could have been two or three different ways that would have been just as good, if not better," but because we presume something we actually robbed the collective value of a team giving that kind of input. The next one is impatience. Nothing will disqualify or discredit the ability to have open communication,

EP. 05: THE "W" IN TEAMWORK IS FOR WEEKLY STAFF MEETINGS

For years, I asked my team to bring me a brief weekly report on a small 3-by-5 card. This kept the reports short and to the point. Then those cards became our weekly meeting agenda. Today we use email. Here are the four things you want to know as a leader:

“I’ve made progress in ______________________________________”

“I’m having difficulty with ___________________________________”

“I need a decision from you on ________________________________”

“I’m thankful for ___________________________________________”

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Every time we get together, there's an opportunity to go deeper in our relationships. And we know that the cost of that is time, but the value is that you feel more connected in every effort that you get together on. - Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

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Mingo Palacios:

So what's next on the acronym?

Tyler Hofer:

All right, we are on the "W" value. We are halfway through.

Mingo Palacios:

Hey.

Tyler Hofer:

Rounding second heading towards home. The "W" stands for weekly team meetings. And so we want to be consistent in meeting with our teams. A scripture passage that we're referencing for this value comes out of Hebrews 10, which actually is referencing the church as a whole. It says, "Let's not give up the habit of meeting together, but let us encourage one another." And so whoever the author of Hebrews is is writing to the church and saying, don't neglect meeting together. Don't neglect these consistent meetings, whether that's weekly or I don't know, however, however often they met back then. But weekly team meetings, gathering together for encouragement, for discipleship, for really learning what it is to be a team. Because if you're a team, you need to be meeting together consistently and building that teamwork, that team mentality together. So, what do you think, Mingo, about this?

Mingo Palacios:

Well, I think the Hebrew actually in Hebrews refers to don't just keep your team meetings across texts. I think that's what the author was originally alluding to is don't just rely on text messages. If I remember correct from my Greek and Hebrew classes. But in all, in all seriousness, I do think that it's very convenient for us to reduce the time together just to reporting. In communication there's like this whole theory on like the value between reporting and rapport, rapport being the relational end of our time together with those who are connected with and then reporting being like, what are the facts I need to know? And sometimes we have tools that can just prop up, like the reporting, like, "Hey, who's covering what shift? What time are you going to get there? Who needs to be responsible for what?" And you actually lose the relational equity that comes when we come together. Right? Every time we get together, there's an opportunity to go deeper in our relationships. And we know that the cost of that is time,

EP. 04: THE "M" IN TEAMWORK IS FOR MANAGEMENT OF MISTAKES

The Bible teaches: "Even though a righteous man falls seven times, he rises again." (Proverbs 24:16, NIV) I love that saying because it points out that even righteous people make mistakes and stumble occasionally. Mistakes are not failures, because you’re never a failure until you give up. Mistakes teach us what doesn’t work. If you’re not making any mistakes, it means you’re playing it safe and not trying anything new. I tell my staff that I want every one of them making at least one new mistake a week – as long as it isn’t the same old one! Mistakes are how we learn and get better.

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We don't want people to expect that they'll never make a mistake, but as leaders, we can really manage the quality of that experience by chalking it up to an education. – Mingo PalaciosClick To Tweet

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Mingo Palacios:

So the next value inside of the acronym teamwork is the "M". And it's all about how we manage mistakes, right? And so there's management and mistakes. And then there's the management of mistakes. I love what scripture says in Proverbs Chapter 24 it says, "For though a righteous man falls seven times, he rises yet again." So notice the description of the man. It's a righteous person. It's not like a conniving person trying to tear something down. It is a well intended person, still can fall and inside of any ministry team inside of any volunteer team, we just have to anticipate mistakes. And there's one way that you can really capitalize on a mistake when you run into it. And then there's another way that can really dissolve a team. It can really break down a team and we're going to articulate it right now. The bottom line is this, that when we run into mistakes, either as leaders or as volunteers, we want to identify it. We want to recognize it as an education, right? It's a learning moment, not as a failure, right? And I think our internal dialogue would say, "Gosh, I really failed on that one." Or you know, somebody can point you out and be like that, "You've failed there." Right? But to elevate, to raise the culture and say, "Let's call it an education. Right? That was a learning opportunity for all of us." It creates safety inside of a team where we know we're standing with people despite a misstep to go, "It's an education, right? We're going to learn from it. We're going to come back from it, and we're going to approach it in a different direction."

Tyler Hofer:

Yeah.

Mingo Palacios:

Anybody have a personal experience with like how we manage the mistakes we make or the mistakes other people have made?

Tyler Hofer:

Yeah. I've been on a learning curve here at Torrey Pines. I mean, I've been here forever. I've seen a lot of change.

Mingo Palacios:

Since the beginning of time. Since the beginning of time.

Tyler Hofer: