The gym is empty, Gatorade bottles rolling around - you're about to step into the creative arena. Tyler and Pia explore "towels," a track about that moment when you're preparing to create, knowing you'll be changed on the other side of it.

Pia shares the backstory behind Vaseline-prepped fighters and fluorescent Lycra, while Tyler explains how he built that tense, pre-creation energy into the music. They discuss why showing up fully on stage means being ready for both roses and tomatoes, and why indifference is worse than dislike.