From chaotic city streets to Italian siestas, Pia and Tyler explore how "where it lives" captures where creativity does and doesn't reside. They discuss why Pia expanded this poem mid-process and how Tyler experimented with distorted street sounds to capture anxiety. The key insight: creative flow can feel just as fast-paced as anxiety—it's the energy behind the work that matters.

The gym is empty, Gatorade bottles rolling around - you're about to step into the creative arena. Tyler and Pia explore "towels," a track about that moment when you're preparing to create, knowing you'll be changed on the other side of it.

Pia shares the backstory behind Vaseline-prepped fighters and fluorescent Lycra, while Tyler explains how he built that tense, pre-creation energy into the music. They discuss why showing up fully on stage means being ready for both roses and tomatoes, and why indifference is worse than dislike.

What happens when you kill your darlings and trust the creative process? Tyler and Pia dive into the making of "hungry" and how the breakdown led to the breakthrough. From Pia's gut feeling that the first version wasn't right to Tyler downloading that perfect 808 pattern, this episode reveals the sweet tension between control and flow in creative collaboration.

Tyler and Pia get real about the messy, beautiful terror of creative leaps. What it feels like to stand on the edge of something new - whether it's a song, a project, or a new life - having no clue what's waiting below.

They break down their track "come on in" and the art of creative collaboration minus the egos. Plus: why the water's always warm once you finally stop overthinking and cannonball into your big wide.

How do you start an album when you've never done this before? Tyler and Pia dive into 'RSVP' - the track that kicked everything off - sharing the moment they knew they wanted to make something together and the creative process that shaped both the words and the sound.