In this episode we check in with the billionaire class and see how they are doing! Turns out: Not great. With Mountainhead; the new film by Jesse Armstrong, we take a fly on the wall peek into the lives of 4 tech bros who have infinitely more money than sense, and somehow even less emotional intelligence that either. It’s a tough watch and feels a little too close to current events at times. but we made sure to give it a rigorous once over.

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A group of billionaire friends get together against the backdrop of a rolling international crisis.

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Transcript 

Dion 

Oh, hello and welcome to the documentary section of this week’s periodic Table of awesome. As we look into the future documentary Mountain head. That’s right. 

Jill 

Future, I call it present. 

Dion 

Was gonna say, can we say new futurism? 

Speaker 3 

I mean. 

Dion 

I don’t know what can we. 

Jill 

Say, like tomorrow, ISM. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Look, I mean, yeah, yeah, tomorrow isn’t. That’s fine. Hello, Jill. Hello, queenie. Hello, Peter. Nice of you to join us. Hello to. 

Quinny 

Hello, welcome back, Pete. 

Dion 

Hi. 

Peta 

Hi I I exist here I am. 

Quinny 

Very exciting. It’s your face. 

Dion 

Yes, this is and this is a very. 

Peta 

I’ve missed my face too. 

Jill 

Ohh. 

Dion 

But you’ve been a bit busy. What have you? 

Quinny 

Been doing, Peter? Yeah. 

Peta 

I’ve been working real hard. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah. 

Peta 

But the last or three Tuesdays of last month, the series I’ve been working real hard on went to air. So that was that was a fun. Time, yeah. 

Dion 

And and we’ve all been watching it and it’s very, very good and we love that and thank you. Very much for doing that show for us. 

Quinny 

It’s it’s called Catherine. And. 

Peta 

It’s called the Kimberley, and we’ve had a very, very, very lovely reaction from from the viewing audience, which has been wonderful. 

Dion 

Every. Yes. But it’s mostly our opinion that you’re looking. For. I know we we know this. It’s OK. 

Quinny 

We we actually didn’t tell you, Pete, but this this week is we’re gonna spring it on you. We’re actually. Reviewing the Kimberly. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Know that we said that we’re reviewing Mountain head and we just played a trailer for it. What the **** that **** we’re. Gonna review the Kimberly brutal. 

Peta 

Brutal being making me watch mountain head for no reason. 

Dion 

You you leave Mountain head alone. It’s a very misunderstood film that is going to come back and haunt everyone in about I. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Don’t know. Maybe 50 years. 

Jill 

No two days. 

Quinny 

It’s not. It’s going to say it’s not going to come back and haunt anyone because everyone’s just gonna look at it and go **** that film because it’s just, it’s so accurate and right, and I hate it and. It’s. Fun. Hey, there you go. There’s my review. Anyway, moving on to the next thing that we’d like. To talk about. 

Dion 

OK, great. Thanks. Well, anyway, that was Mountain head review. There’s quitting part. 

Jill 

Yep. 

Dion 

Moving on. 

Quinny 

Well, quite frankly, it’ll be nice for a change because everybody else can get a word. And I’ll shut the **** **. 

Jill 

Wow. 

Dion 

Look, this is. Wait, what was it? It was HBO, and then it was Max, and then it was HBO Max. And then it was HBO GO. And then it was go Max. Go and then it was Max Headroom. 

Quinny 

Steel, Max quest, yeah. 

Dion 

Max 1,000,000 Johnny Quest Max I don’t. Know. 

Quinny 

Yeah, Pepsi Max. 

Dion 

It’s back. But yes, Jesse Armstrong has directed and I think. Wrote it, they wrote it. Yeah, directed by Jesse. 

Quinny 

They’re written by, directed by. Do you sound strong? Yeah. 

Dion 

Armstrong. Who most famously was the showrunner of. Succession. 

Quinny 

All right. 

Dion 

Is that is that the thing? Now who’s watched the session? 

Quinny 

Succession. I don’t know why you’re pronouncing it that. 

Dion 

Way succession. No. I’ve got a learning disability. 

Jill 

I don’t know. 

Peta 

I started to watch succession, but stressed me out. I had to stop. 

Quinny 

MHM. I have 5 episodes sitting there and I have not been able to bring myself to watch it because I am completely done with the the genre of rich people being *****. Finally Cooney. 

Jill 

Hmm. 

Dion 

You here with us? Ohh, look. Problems of a rich person don’t care. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Like what? What was the one that we both watched there on that was bizarre sirens. 

Jill 

Oh my God, that was a weird show. 

Dion 

Yeah, right. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah. Weird show about just a pack of rich people being utter ********. 

Jill 

Yeah, I couldn’t even tell if it was being serious or if it was a comedy like it was bizarre. 

Quinny 

And you know. No. You remember that show the the the woman across the road who watched the person who died like that. I really liked that it had a bit of that kind of vibe. Well, you’re not entirely sure if you should. 

Peta 

I won’t like. 

Quinny 

Be taking it seriously. Like and at least with that one, it really settled in. You went ohh OK. We were in a parody. Here. But in this one you you left it really uncertain. Ohh you left. But anyway we’re not reviewing that ship. But we can talk about it later. Anyway. Back to mountain head. 

Jill 

Was still too ambiguous. 

Speaker 5 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Yeah, OK. Mountain head queen. You have an office for? 

Quinny 

Us. Yes, it’s very brief. 

Dion 

Excellent. Does anyone have a suggestion? The **** accent. Could you do? It well, I’m. I’m voting for Elon Musk analog. Oh **** yeah. Wait, ketamine rule fueled Elon Musk. And. 

Quinny 

I can’t. I can’t do that and read my eyes. Just rolling into the back. Of my head. 

Dion 

Fine. OK, what about Jeff Bezos? I don’t think anyone’s heard him speak. 

Quinny 

I have no idea what Jeff Bezos sounds like. I could. I could give you a **** attempt at Elon Musk’s weird not accent. 

Dion 

Also, you could try a lizard person Zuckerberg. 

Quinny 

Once again, I have no idea what he sounds like. 

Jill 

Do Microsoft Sam what? Sorry Microsoft Sam. 

Quinny 

The film follows. 

Dion 

I have no music I have. 

Jill 

Ohh God, anyone under 30 doesn’t know what. The **** I just said. Well. 

Dion 

I’m going to add music in post. Just imagine it I’m going to use. I’m going to use generative AI to put. 

Quinny 

Dion 

Music. 

Quinny 

Cool. Can you use let’s use generative AI to get a better synopsis than what everything else is going? 

Dion 

Yeah. Hey, grok. Give me music. No, I don’t. I don’t have that. I’m not going to get there. 

Quinny 

****. OK, so the the and I I don’t even know what Elon Musk sounds like. He sounds like a ********. So I’m just. 

Dion 

White nationalist AI. 

Quinny 

Gonna sound like me. 

Peta 

You’re mean to Queenie tonight, Kenny. 

Quinny 

What could I tell you? I’ve I’ve had a bad day with Quinny. Quinn’s been a. **** to me. So I’m gonna be * **** to quinny. Ohh. 

Jill 

Thanks. 

Quinny 

No. The film. Yeah. Yeah. The film follows 4 billionaire friends on a on a secluded weekend retreat after the world goes through. Major, major turmoil that was hit in the face by ex. That’s. Yeah. I don’t know what the. 

Jill 

That was the synopsis that was like 2 lines. 

Quinny 

That that is literally that it, it is the synopsis everywhere is 2 lines, a group of billionaire friends get together against the backdrop of a rolling International Crisis. That’s the other version of this. 

Speaker 9 

Wow. 

Jill 

Crosses. 

Quinny 

2 lines, but basically the the plot being that one of the the characters has just released a new AI model that, well, not even AI model, a suite of AI tools that make it infinitely easier to create completely picture. Perfect. Deep fake videos. Yeah, and it is destabilizing the world. But he doesn’t give a **** because he’s super ******* rich. And him and his billionaire mates go up to a friend’s cabin to have a weekend of poker and ******* about. 

Dion 

Yes, but they go to the poorest billionaires cabin. And it is. It’s a tech bro apocalypse. That’s what the story is about, but told from the perspective of Imagine if you’re a fly on the wall at the Super Super Super Super Super super rich peoples house instead of in the riots on the street. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Having a bad time. What if you were completely isolated from any of that and didn’t give a ****? 

Quinny 

Umm. And and you’ve got like. It’s like, yeah. If you’ve got Musk, Bezos and. 

Dion 

Zuckerberg. 

Quinny 

Zuckerberg in a place you know. 

Jill 

In in Bill Gates house. 

Quinny 

In Bill Gates’s house. But you’ve probably got Bill Gates in there as well, who’s trying to he’s the guy who has the new tech that is actually capable of detecting what is fake and therefore suddenly his stock is going through the roof. 

Dion 

It tells, yeah, yeah. Yes. 

Quinny 

And it’s like. What pack of ******? 

Dion 

What in what happens if in this tech bro landscape, one of the tech Bros is doing stuff that actively harms it, and another one of the tech pros has the tools to, like counteract that and they don’t want to do that because they don’t care of the damage they’re doing? Again, why do we want to watch movies about people we hate? 

Jill 

So when we found out about this movie, I thought, oh, OK, yeah, it’ll be a little satirical comedy I can get on board with that. I love, eat the rich. Like as a genre. And I. 

Quinny 

Hmm. 

Jill 

Do regularly watch political satire because it’s kind of the only way you. Can deal with this. Stuff without killing yourself and the 1st 5 minutes I was like, oh, yeah, OK. Ohh, these guys are awful. Oh, my God, this is so cringe. 

Quinny 

MHM. 

Jill 

But by about half an hour and I’m like, I want to turn this off. I want to turn this off. I. Want to turn this off? 

Dion 

Make. Yeah, this Black Mirror episode is too long. 

Jill 

I did pause it a couple of times because I had the washing washing machine on and then I had to hang the laundry and then I came. Back. I’m like I. Don’t wanna ******* finish this? Maybe. And I said I saw that I had 10 minutes left. I’m like, oh, fine. 

Dion 

But you did. 

Jill 

And hate watched the last 10 minutes. 

Quinny 

Yeah, well done. 

Jill 

Ohh God, it was such a a a struggle. 

Peta 

I just. 

Dion 

Pete, how’d you go? 

Peta 

Think I need to mark myself up as not the intended audience for. This one? Sure, because first. 

Quinny 

Yep. 

Jill 

In that case, Peter, who was the intended audience? 

Peta 

I’m not sure because I was quite bored. I was. I was. I was not having a good time. Not because the people were horrible, but just because, like. I was born. Yeah. And I I didn’t really buy it at its core. And I was bored. And then, like, it took a turn, and then I was. This is kind of a boring of of of all of the turns it can take like it it should not be a boring. 

Jill 

Which? Hmm. 

Peta 

Term but somehow to me this is still just just very very boring. 

Dion 

I mean. 

Peta 

Like it should have the the turn should have been like ohh now it’s getting. Interesting, but I was like. OK. 

Jill 

Sure. 

Quinny 

Yep. You’re not just ********. You’re also ******* idiot ********. 

Jill 

Yeah. Yes. 

Peta 

But I think the problem is like I’m I’m good for any the rich comedy as well and and I’m I’m good. For a kind of a, A, A. A true to. Modern times dark comedy, but I just. I just didn’t buy it. I I I didn’t. I didn’t buy the core concept and I didn’t buy the core motivation of any of the characters. And then it was just like a lot of like dude Bros talking, which I think was was my main boredom issue. Because once you kind of don’t really buy the concept, then it’s just like 2 hours of Dubrow. 

Quinny 

That Causeway intellectual blue brews. 

Peta 

Talking. 

Speaker 9 

That’s all at. 

Peta 

And and. Once silver Fox Daddy Steve Carell can’t save that. 

Jill 

Basically, ohh, he was the worst of them all. 

Peta 

Which he was supposed to be. And he he does great evil. But like, I wouldn’t buy it. 

Quinny 

Hmm. 

Jill 

My problem with it is that sure it was 2 hours of dudebro talking and it was supposed to be funny, but I could not separate it. From men that I have actually met, talk exactly like that. And so I’m like, no, this is too real. This is there’s nothing satirical about it. There’s no parody anymore because it’s just accurate. Like the way the intellectual posturing that they were doing in this film of like the analytical conversations and like ohh if we break this down at its core, it’s like this and this and this and they’re just. Like these are the dumbest **** ***** you’ve ever met and they just love to hear themselves talk and they think they’re smart and they like back it up with like false facts and false quotes and, like, think they’d like, have enough knowledge about. 

Speaker 9 

The world. 

Jill 

And the geopolitical climate and stuff like. That but they just want to hear themselves talk. And I didn’t want to hear it. 

Peta 

I’ve genuinely been On this date recently so. I’m like to another two hours of. 

Jill 

No. 

Peta 

This yeah. 

Dion 

I was I. Was. Yeah, I was gonna say it’s OK, Jill, you don’t have to come. To the parties anymore. 

Quinny 

Like the the the thing that does get like on every single one of my last ******* nerves about it is exactly that Jill that that the. Thing of them talking and talking and and intellectualizing and and pulling on. You know, all of these ******* things, like oh, you know, I really like Kant and that’s a nietzschian way of thinking. And it’s like, yeah, congratulations. You’ve read a bunch of quasi ******* intellectuals pseudo like yes, there’s. Technology. There’s philosophy. There’s all that. Kind of stuff, yeah, but. You’re a ********, and you all of that doesn’t help you. And when you just kind of lean back and like immediately assume that you’re the smartest person in the room, you shut out anyone else. And therefore nothing interesting can happen from that point. 

Jill 

Pretty much. 

Quinny 

Oh God, it annoys me. 

Dion 

So I had a better time with the film. Than you guys. Yourself date. I mean, I can’t say that. I I thought it was. Look, there are there are I have quibbles. That’s OK. All of what you said is valid and very fair. Because yes, all of those. 

Quinny 

Update. 

Dion 

Our problems with it, it’s hard to find why you’re following these people cause none of them are sympathetic protagonists. All of them are shifts. But what I found interesting about the film like not great. Like, not entertaining, but interesting about the film is the way that it was deeply trying to portray the satire of the real world people. That this is kind of based on. Like, I liked the fact that it was attempting to. Show us into this world of Tech Bros. And Silicon Valley, you know, hit the the leaders of the future and actually expose them exactly what they are. They were people who were probably not very popular. They’re people who probably had bad social skills. All of these things. And now that they have the money and the influence to change that they started changing that about themselves. And when they changed that about themselves, they started to believe the ideology that they are. Better than other people. And then what does that look like when they have all of that kind of power? When you get people who are deeply, you know, deeply insecure and self-centered? 

Jill 

Hmm. 

Dion 

And unhappy with things when they they when you suddenly give them the agency of like, Oh no. But we’re the masters of the universe. We together are the people who changes. What are the flaws that could happen? It can have worldwide consequences. And This is why it shouldn’t really be allowed to happen, you know. That’s what found interesting about. 

Peta 

I do appreciate that it did have something to say. Yeah, but I already was kind of there, so I didn’t need to. I was just too close talking to tell. But yeah, I mean obviously there’s there’s a message not hidden at all in the film. 

Quinny 

Blood. Yeah. 

Jill 

Yeah. And very relevant to like stuff that is literally happening happening this week. You know, people are using AI to. 

Quinny 

MHM. 

Jill 

Create fake videos. They’re reposting old videos of completely different riots to yeah, to fabricate what is actually. Happening and it’s insane. It’s insane because we are living it. This is not. This is not a a fantasy. What if, like? Ohh you know? 

Quinny 

MHM. 

Jill 

You know a a tale of, you know, beware. Kind of. Thing it’s like. It’s literally ******* happening right now, we. We gotta do ******* something about it. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yeah, I was sitting there watching this and at the same time, looking at my phone watching like, the the National Guard be called on in LA. And I’m like, this isn’t funny. There’s like, I can’t find this funny because, like, the idea that these more like, especially because at the same time the National guard’s been called out, you’ve got ******* Elon Musk going on a on a Bender and essentially deciding that he doesn’t like his best friend. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Jill 

No. 

Quinny 

Anymore and is now going to just publicly. Try and **** with him and and you’re like. This is puerile, it’s idiotic, and everyone can see. 

Jill 

It. 

Quinny 

But these ********? Yeah. And then, yeah, you gotta a movie, which is kind of then going. Hey, isn’t it funny? And I’m. 

Dion 

That’s Mad Men. 

Jill 

Like. No, no. 

Quinny 

That’s so funny. It’s just ******* annoying. 

Dion 

Yeah, it’s just it’s just annoying because we know all of the people in that and we believe we have the self belief that that’s what they’re like. And that’s the kind of thing that we don’t. So we we get in there, we sort of watch it like, yeah, that’s cause they do that **** and like, wait, they’re doing that. Wait, that’s not right. And that’s not funny because. They shouldn’t be doing that, but they’re doing that anyway. Look, it’s very meta. 

Jill 

I get that the movie has a message right and it’s like trying to trying to tell us, you know, the state of the world right now and and where AI is going and what it’s capable of. But I think it might have been a more successful. 

Dion 

I mean not that. 

Quinny 

Not that meant. 

Jill 

Hmm. Film. If it actually gave us a solution. Like if it actually maybe gave us suggestions on what we could do to circumnavigate this. 

Speaker 5 

Yeah. 

Peta 

Mr. Rich, obviously. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yeah, clearly. 

Jill 

Yeah, but Peter, what is step one? 

Quinny 

I think we’ve. 

Peta 

Got an in heat up the BBQ. 

Dion 

Look, I mean just. 

Jill 

Please please I need to stop them. 

Dion 

Go back, go back to the like, go back to the history books. It’s OK. The French did it. In the 18th century. 

Jill 

I can’t just wait for the French to do this, I need to do it. I need you to do. It now. 

Dion 

You you can. You can find all the materials you need for your guillotine down at Bunnings. 

Jill 

My Molotov baguette. 

Dion 

Yeah. Yeah. Look, I I look, I appreciated the effort. I think it is a deeply forward film mountain head. It did raise some interesting issues that I found like some more information about which is also deeply worrying. So do you wanna? Get even more. 

Jill 

Deeply worried. Ohh please and. 

Quinny 

Come on. You’re gonna dig into transhumanism now. 

Dion 

Yes, yes. Or as the acronym is called it test. Deal. Or test. Yeah, test real, which is transhumanism, extra pianism singularity, unism, cosmism and rationalist ideology. 

Jill 

So this what they were. Talking about in the movie where they wanted to be like post. 

Dion 

Yes, effective altruism and long termism, and this is a real this is a real thing. Like I mean you can look this up. I’m not gonna go too far into this. 

Jill 

Human yes. 

Dion 

Go on. No, no, I don’t. I don’t want. You can do. You can do your own *******. Looking into it the each. 

Quinny 

Do not tell me to do my own research, because let me tell you that has never ended well for anyone. 

Dion 

You know, I know. Look, and it’s it is it is a whole thing about being able to transcend the boundaries of human limitation by working towards this common goal that we can all go for. This is exactly what they’re doing mountain here. They’re trying to get to a mountain here. I love that they explain mountain head. It’s basically, you know, the reason they’re trying to get to this is because. They are deeply insecure and selfish and want to. Like be live forever because they believe that they’re the smartest people, alright. You can make all of that what you will, but I mean the interesting thing about it is there are adherents to it who have promoted these ideologies and are going in about it. And they are these people in real life, and you’re talking about people like Sam Altman. You’re Peter Thiel. And if you don’t know who Peter Thiel is. Let me tell you, not great. Elon Musk has been like a an adherent, apparently. But there’s a lot of, you know, people in this space do, like, looking for these things. Like, hey, yeah, we can just get to transhumanism. And it’s like in your lifetime. And they’re like, yes, we’re going to make that happen. So instead of trying to fix the problems. They’re just like, no, no. If we can get us to this point, then we can continue to lead humanity in the future. And it’s like, that’s not the right thing to do. That’s kind of like saying I need to kill a billion serfs so I can remain king. Forever. Oh wait. The the Egyptians tried this. It didn’t work out. 

Jill 

Can’t you just go back to cryogenics where it was? 

Quinny 

Like. 

Jill 

Safe. Well. 

Quinny 

I I think that we should really push very hard for these ******** to to to really go in hard on cryogenics because, as I’m pretty sure, we still haven’t worked out how to make it work. I’m more than happy for those ********* to freeze themselves and remove themselves from the gene pool. Yes, like that would be. 

Jill 

Very helpful. Please do not upload your brains. And. Create yourself an artificial existence. 

Quinny 

What what I saw in it? 

Jill 

I’ve had enough. Guys I just wanna. 

Quinny 

Leave what I saw in this film is just a whole bunch of dudes who are terrified like they they are constantly from the moment they’re around each other. They are sniping at each other. They are attacking each other and at every stage of the game. They are terrified. They’re either terrified of death. They’re terrified of, you know, being hated by people. They they say that they don’t care, but they are just. In utter terror and the only thing they can do is build these gigantic things around them to try and keep themselves safe emotionally, physically, whatever and. 

Peta 

And that’s very, very accurate in, in, in the portrayal and in in, in that sense, the film was very successful. 

Jill 

It’s. Yeah. 

Peta 

Because because it does that. It it it it does that it element of it and what it says about that it it does quite well. I mean look maybe if I hadn’t like literally just been on that date for two hours, my attitude about watching this for two hours. Would have been different. 

Dion 

Yeah. Feel like I was like, wait, I just went on this. Day. Why am I doing it again? 

Peta 

Why am I doing that again? But with Steve Carell? 

Dion 

Why I? I thought like some of those moments were great. Like, I really like the whatever one of the, they’re all *********. I don’t even give a ****. I don’t care to know their names. All their names were off. I didn’t want to know. You know, when he had the one who had the child. Yeah. And was like, I’m connecting with my son is like I have those chess pieces from over there that that he’s just couldn’t. He’s looks like he’s conducting an experiment. And then when he’s done with it, he’s like, OK, take the baby away now. Like I don’t. Yeah. 

Quinny 

No. Hmm. 

Dion 

See that? I mean, that’s great. That’s a great example of how disconnected they are and about how. 

Quinny 

Hmm. 

Dion 

They feel like they’re these great scions of humanity, but they’re actually absolutely ******* useless if they have to do anything themselves, and every single plan. 

Jill 

They couldn’t even kill a dude. 

Dion 

Yeah, in the in the simplest way possible. Yeah, they couldn’t even decide how to kill someone. Yeah, yeah. 

Jill 

They had to debate the the. 

Quinny 

Ethics and morality and. 

Jill 

No, it wasn’t even the ethics. It was just like debating the best way and most efficient way to kill somebody. 

Dion 

No. 

Quinny 

Sure. And because they’re all six Sigma, big brain folks. 

Jill 

Oh my God, I hated the language in this film. 

Quinny 

I know, right? I know. 

Dion 

It’s designed to be hateful. 

Quinny 

Hmm, so there was 1 character I found interesting because like, he’s the one who’s set to be apart from it, and that’s the character of Jeff. So played by Rami Youssef. 

Jill 

Right. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah, I know, right? Just another dude. 

Peta 

Two names. They all came together. 

Quinny 

One thing in the world, one dude with a million. What was that? Sorry. 

Peta 

They’re just, they’re just all had dude names, right? I don’t know. I yeah. Yeah. Couldn’t tell you. Yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah. So like, I had to think of it as Steve Carell, the Riddler. 

Speaker 3 

yeah 

Dion 

Well, I mean, Corey, Michael Smith, I remember like you know. What a what a great. 

Quinny 

We we’ve interviewed him. He’s a. 

Dion 

I know, yeah. Yeah. Like one of the first periodic table. He’s a lovely man. And then it’s sort. 

Quinny 

Nice. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Of I’m like I hate you. That’s why you’re good. If I met you. Now I’d be like ****. You’re an *******. No way that. Was a character. It’s just a character character. 

Jill 

Hmm. 

Quinny 

Because his name is repeated regularly enough and isn’t a normal human name. 

Jill 

Jason. Jason Schwartzman. Yeah. Yeah, but. Ohh, mind you the nickname is because like he’s the closest one to be working in a soup kitchen because he only has half a billion dollars. 

Peta 

The character. 

Dion 

Exactly. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yeah. Gross. Yeah. No. 

Dion 

And even though he only has a half a billion dollars, he can just afford this. You know, he’s he’s financially bound to this terrible house that he has because he’s put too much of his money into it. Anyway, sorry. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yeah. So the, the, the one I did find interesting was Rami Yousef’s character because he ostensibly is kind of playing that role of the good billionaire. Like the the the the left-leaning, vaguely progressive pays lip service to the socialist ideas. So much lip service and like you’re kind of watching it and there’s this little party. 

Peta 

Lord lip service, yeah. 

Quinny 

Was like good fight, more fight more. 

Peta 

Yeah, do the. Do the do the thing like you you like the entire thing is about you have the solution? Yeah. Deploy the solution. 

Jill 

The needle on this guy was like, so close to to to. Waving. But then no, just yeah. 

Dion 

Yeah. And. And I feel like that’s that’s a great thing. Is that that is kind of how it goes. It’s like well, it just takes one of you to say no and like ah, but you know. Here. Maybe it’s complicated. 

Peta 

Ohh but but my numbers are going up. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Umm. 

Dion 

But my number. 

Peta 

And again, that’s like another box successful thing that the film did successfully because you could you could tell, I mean they’re they’re all nice performances for the characters they are. And Rama Yusuf is so likeable, just generally and generally plays quite likeable characters. So you’re you’re so primed. With everything you’re saying to to like. Ohh yeah, this is like this is the audience insert this character like this is the guy that we’re kind of with and then as the film kind of like keeps going you’re like yeah but. 

Jill 

Hmm. 

Peta 

Yeah, but you get you’re not going to do that, no. 

Speaker 9 

Who’s the thing? 

Peta 

Cool, cool. Cool. Cool, cool, cool. Cool, which is, you know, again, point the film is trying and succeeding to make. 

Dion 

All I want to say is thank God for the lawyers. They managed to iron it all out in the end. It just goes to show if you need. If you have a big problem and an issue you can’t, you know, solve in the world. Just get a ******* teams of lawyers involved. That’s all you need to do. 

Quinny 

Mm-hmm. Or start your own coup. 

Jill 

Still, he is with billionaires, though there’s no liquidity. It’s just all tied up in value of their assets. So they’re they’re not, they’re not. Cash rich. 

Quinny 

No. Well, not as far as we know. Yeah, they’re they’re certainly not soul rich. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Because, I mean, even just recently Bill Gates became like liquid and was able to actually move his cash and he put it all into ******* charities. Like. Hmm. I’m like, OK, well, there’s maybe a redemption for one billionaire, but, but honestly. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah. 

Dion 

Yeah, but I mean, you know, you gotta you gotta ask yourself the question, what are those charities? Are those charities that were set up under that person’s name so they could just move all of their cash into a thing they have to pay tax on. 

Jill 

Yeah, quite possibly. 

Dion 

Because capitalism’s the problem. 

Quinny 

Peta 

That’s what it felt like it felt like. Work. It really did, dear. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Not. Not particularly beautiful. Not particularly interestingly short. Very bland color palette. 

Dion 

So ratings come back and we chat about something else. 

Jill 

Oh. I don’t even know how to rate this cause like I mean I guess it did its job. 

Dion 

I mean, Jill, if you’re going, if you’re going to give it a low number. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

That’s OK. If you didn’t like it, you can. Just say it was bad. 

Jill 

Yeah, but was it? 

Peta 

I think it’s easier. Is it objectively bad just because I hated watching it? 

Jill 

Was it? 

Peta 

Yeah, yeah, that’s the question I frequently ask in our. 

Jill 

I don’t think it was. Discussions see I don’t think it was an objectively bad movie. I mean, it wasn’t the most. 

Dion 

Sure. 

Jill 

The most moving. Picture to ever. Have been made like it wasn’t you. Know. 

Dion 

Yeah, like. 

Jill 

I mean creating new ground. It was, yeah. 

Dion 

Look, it’s it’s definitely a validation like it’s like, did you hate the rich or the idea of the rich? Watch this. You’ll hate them more. 

Quinny 

MHM. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Peta 

I mean, look, if you’re gonna like, you know, rate it on a scale of eat the rich films, I’ll still take a salt burn over a mountain head in. Yeah. But just because, like, that’s eat the rich with artistry. So. So, so there’s. 

Jill 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Peta 

There’s one end of. 

Dion 

The scale, you know Great Gatsby is kind of aspirational. Wealth like people like it cause it’s it’s full of that kind of stuff. But this one is kind of like. But what if it’s Great Gatsby but with? Absolute morons who are affecting real things instead of just throwing lavish parties in the 20s. 

Quinny 

But Great Gatsby, you know, lavish, isn’t it, beauties? 

Jill 

There’s no fall from grace. There’s no there’s no underlying story in this film. It’s just. 

Dion 

Yeah. And that’s kind of the thing like. With mountain head. I was like Ohh wow and they all just kept going. Yeah, yeah. Ohh there was no. There was absolutely no room. There was no come up until repercussions. 

Quinny 

There’s no cup puppets. There is. 

Peta 

That’s because there isn’t. And again, like I I, I don’t disagree with. I don’t disagree with that direction because there is no comeuppance or precautions. For these people that that there’s not going to be something that we have to accept about life is that the bad people don’t always have bad things happen to them. So I’m like that didn’t that doesn’t bug me in general, it’s it it. It would kind of, you know, bug me more if there was like, you know, like a big aspirational and then they all get blown up and everything is fine. Just be like. 

Speaker 5 

Like. 

Dion 

Yes, only if only the president ordered a drone strike. 

Peta 

Super unrealistic for. The farm. Yeah. 

Quinny 

Like, if they’d gone down that path, I would have been very. 

Dion 

Entertained, except except for the fact that Steve Carell character actively knows how to shut down the US military cause, he operates all the computer systems that it’s built on. 

Jill 

Yeah, but is that just him ****** talking or is it true? 

Dion 

Also, I’d love I love to. Actually, I really actually loved how inept all of them were at the things that they were famous for, you know. 

Peta 

Like yes, like. 

Dion 

Of them knew had a code. None of them like they’d gone. Beyond the idea that that they had to do anything, they just happened to own company names and ideas, and then everyone else worked for them. Like they couldn’t do ****, but they just told other people to do **** for them. Like, yeah. 

Jill 

Yep. 

Dion 

And maybe that’s the thing. Maybe maybe that’s the little bit, the undercurrent, which is like these people are powerless and stupid. When it comes down to the one-on-one. So stop edifying them. Maybe. Hopefully that’s the message that they’re trying to get through with Mountain Head. Anyway, five stars loved it. 

Jill 

MHM. Yeah. 

Peta 

I guess that’s a good question. Like, you know, what is what is the message? I liked what Quinny said before about it. It being like a portrait of just very, very afraid. 

Quinny 

Can you give that to me? In the numerical kitchen. 

Peta 

Then I hadn’t really thought of it like that, but actually the performances kind of fit that really well. And looking back on it through that lens actually makes me like the film slightly. 

Dion 

And each each, each one of the characters is afraid of a. Different archetype and that was what I found slightly interesting. I mean look, it’s a tough watch. Yeah, I’m not going to recommend that people go and spend the two hours to go through this, but I mean the redeem some of the redeeming stuff. You know, one of them is afraid of dying. Fine. One of them is afraid of their legacy. One of them is afraid their girlfriend’s gonna go and **** a bunch of people at a sex party. You know, that’s funny. In a certain way, one of them is is afraid that they’re never going to be the cool kid in the group or all of them are pretty much the same sort of thing. You know, those are the kind of tenants that are driving them. 

Jill 

MHM. 

Dion 

Through. And ultimately, we all pay the price. ****, I don’t know guillotines, man. 

Jill 

I tell you what, it’s a perfect ******* HSC watch. They should be doing curriculum on this movie. Yeah, because if I had to watch witness 20 times. 

Quinny 

Yep. 

Dion 

Sure, sure. 

Jill 

I’m gonna make. A 15 year old watch ******* mountain head 20 times. 

Dion 

Is it? Isn’t it ******* strange about how the world is actively engaged with Amish? Culture, because we all know about the Amish, but does. Any like? 

Jill 

From witness from witness or sex. From witness. 

Quinny 

All had to study it in. High school. Yeah, yeah. 

Dion 

Yeah, this is so strange how we all like, like, oh, yeah, they are Amish. Cause we saw that on American shows that talked about the Amish, especially witness and it’s. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Like, OK, like, like everybody knows what rum Springer is. 

Jill 

Look, look. When I watch a film, I’m not watching it to write an essay, so I would like a little less nuance and. A little bit. A little bit more straight up. Facts and obvious. Portrayals so this this could have been more of a. 

Quinny 

A little less edging. 

Jill 

Like it could have been a dramatisation on real people, and I would have believed it, but unfortunately I just like a lot of the the stuff that the the points that Dionne was bringing up were just completely lost on me because I was too absorbed in my hate. So I’m just gonna give it a 60. OK. No, I I see all of your. Points and I validate them but for me like I didn’t get them in the moment so it was this movie was completely lost on me. 

Dion 

Peta 

I’m I’m I’m kind of with Jill. I, you know, I I I I I don’t think it’s actually a bad movie. I I think that it it makes its point that it is trying to make. Successfully and I think the performance is really fit, but I. Didn’t have a good time watching it and my general sense while watching it was one of boredom. So even though it may be because I am not the audience, I’m gonna also say 60. Because that reflects my experience while. 

Jill 

Also, watching a movie where every woman was a servant character. 

Quinny 

Hmm. 

Jill 

I’m like that’s. 

Peta 

The thing, and it’s it’s a part of the point. It’s part of the point. But like it didn’t, it didn’t increase my enjoyment of the experience. Yeah. 

Jill 

Yes, I know. Exactly. 

Dion 

Queen, do you have a number? 

Quinny 

Damn well, did you like, is you, are you literally going 100% for this cause? That’s five out of five, buddy. 

Dion 

No, no, that was a joke. My actual view is is 50. It’s 50 out of 100. 

Jill 

I know, I know. 

Quinny 

Square. 

Dion 

Look, it seems it seems so strange that I I was like I’m effusively about it. Like, yes, I know it has all these tenants, but I ******* hated the the way that it was delivered to me. I wanted more fun and satire in the end. I was just kind of. Oh, it was a tough watch and there wasn’t a real good twist in like, I agree, there was no real good twist. I wanted a little bit more out of it. In the end. I just ******* hated these people. And I was like, I don’t. 

Quinny 

Hmm. 

Dion 

Need to watch this. It’s really happening, yeah. You know, and instead of portraying some of it in, you know, slightly more entertaining and flippant way, which is like, hey, look at all this beer badger that’s happening, IE the big short or other films of that nature. Yeah. Which is like, oh, cool. Oh, wait, this is terrible. Oh, my God, why they did that? It’s like this one is just kind of like, look at all these asset. Anyway, you have nothing. Yeah, you started with nothing watching this and you have nothing now watching. 

Quinny 

This. Yeah. Yeah. I didn’t feel edified. I didn’t feel like enlightened or anything like that. I just felt enraged and more sad. By the end of it because I was just like, you know, even the last few shots. 

Jill 

Alright. 

Quinny 

Are these like moments where you like nobody’s learned anything? 

Dion 

Nope. 

Quinny 

You, like nobody, has come out of this any better. The world is still ****** and. I there’s a part. There’s a version of this film where, as you say, the president orders a drone strike and then they have to go running through the the snow and they all get shot one by one in the snow. And I am down. For that film. Like. 

Dion 

Do do we all remember? Don’t look up for that film that. Came out a little while. Yes, at least at the end of that, when the rich counts got to the different planet, you know, one of them immediately got eaten by one of the native wildlife. It was dumb, but at least there was a little bit of like, yeah, **** you. 

Quinny 

Yeah, this is. It’s a 55 from me like. I. It’s there’s just nothing particularly enjoyable about it, but. I mean, it’s all well shot enough, but it’s boring. 

Dion 

A look a waste of a great task. 

Jill 

It’s in focus as we say exactly. 

Quinny 

Yes. In focus. 

Speaker 3 

All the all. 

Quinny 

The so the editor did their job. 

Dion 

All all the sets were believable. 

Quinny 

Hmm. Yeah, like it’s an actual it’s an. Actual 21,000. 

Jill 

They did shoot it in an actual mansion, yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Which was in between owners at the time. 

Dion 

And. Yeah. And everyone wants to go and look up test reel and and then figure out what the **** that’s all about. You can get even further down the terrifying rabbit. 

Quinny 

No, thank you. 

Dion 

Let’s go to a trailer for something completely different than talk about other ****. 

Jill 

Speaker 2 

Right. 

Speaker 5 

My son, tell me why we fight. 

Jill 

Because our enemy still lives. 

Speaker 3 

You all have traveled far. And miss the warmth of home. 

Speaker 5 

But 29th, think of only. One thing killing the monster. 

Speaker 2 

You’re not hearing me. There’s something else up in the. 

Speaker 3 

Sky. 

Speaker 2 

And it’s not human. 

Speaker 5 

I pray you bloody your Spears tonight. You are ready now. There’s only one way to kill. It we must fight together. 

Speaker 1 

Here we go. What happens if we survive? 

Dion 

Peta 

What we’re looking at. 

Dion 

Look, that’s killer of. Killers that came out on, I don’t know. I don’t know where. She comes out anymore. 

Quinny 

Disney plush slash look. 

Dion 

There we go. Thank you. I got confused about Max and things. But look, if you haven’t seen killer of killers, that’s a great animation. I just wanted to talk about that slowly. But other people have seen other things, and that’s what. 

Quinny 

Hey, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa. ******* you. You’re you’re you’re you’re skipping over. Killer of killers in a big hurry and. 

Dion 

I know, but this wasn’t on the schedule. This is just random thoughts sort of popping out now and I. 

Quinny 

Don’t want to freak anyone out? OK, well, I I can I please say something about killer killers. 

Dion 

Derivatives. 

Speaker 9 

It’s happy. 

Quinny 

Well, yes, yes, I do have to. 

Speaker 3 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Cause it’s ******* ******. 

Dion 

Ah, it’s bad. I heard you say. 

Quinny 

Bad. No. You know how there are all those ideas that you had were like? Wouldn’t it be cool if the predator had to go up against like, samurai? Or wouldn’t it be cool if predator had to go up against like, a Viking or something like that? That’s this film. It’s it’s just like it’s 3 short. Stories from different time periods of different predators. Different prey. And then it ties it all together into a bigger plot and the animation is really ******* cool. But on top of that, it’s heaps of fun. It’s super gory, super violent, and yeah, thoroughly. 

Dion 

Now, did did Peter Peter Gill did either of you see pray that movie about the in. Yeah. So Dan Trachtenberg, just checking, checking if it’s in the. I didn’t mean that same writer, director. 

Jill 

Nice. 

Speaker 9 

Yes. Yes, because we reviewed. 

Dion 

Yes. For these, so it’s it’s it’s, it’s got a little bit of football. I’m just OK annoyed with it because it’s not live action and it could have easily been live action because this is a good continuation of the predator narratives right in that way. And I’m just kind of like, ohh damn, but also interesting ideas because it is kind of like 3 short vignettes. And I’m not 100% where how they’re going with the predator world, the predator and predator culture and all that kind of thing, but I really like the human stories that we eat. Which was interest. 

Jill 

I mean. OK. 

Dion 

I highly recommend it. Go watch it, yeah. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah, like it. It’s sitting there. It’s much like prey. They’ve they’ve not done a huge amount of promotion for it, but it’s sitting there on Disney plus and you will have a good night. 

Dion 

Much better. The mountain head, Speaking of good times, how was training your dragon again? 

Jill 

Ohh God yeah. Please tell me. Tell me how dream works? Reanimated the same ******* Dragons that they did the first time. 

Quinny 

Jill 

Frame for frame. 

Quinny 

Pretty much fun. Yeah. Frame for frame shot. For shot scene. I’ve seen. I’ve written actually was kind of so and annoyed to buy it that I’ve actually written a proper review, which is on the website now. 

Jill 

I have to read. 

Peta 

This so. 

Quinny 

Yeah. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. Sometimes I think that, you know, I’ve. I’m better at forming words into long sentences, but yeah, like it’s. It’s problematic not problematic. It is difficult because it is that figure of going the first film back in 2010 was great. Yeah, it was fun. It was energetic. It was something new, had wonderful characters and had all of this, this lovely, adventurous excitement. And so does this, because that’s the same thing. 

Jill 

It’s the. Movie. 

Quinny 

Like the same jokes, the same design, like the literally beat for beat shot, for shot in certain sequences. And I was like. 

Dion 

Would you say that Hollywood is bankrupt? 

Quinny 

And it’s it’s trying to not be bankrupt because it wants more money. 

Dion 

Yeah. Would you say that there is a now and? 

Jill 

They’re bankrupt. 

Dion 

Of ideas. Yeah, there, there is a. There is an unfortunate dollar driven narrative that’s pervading through all of this creative business that is solely focused on recovering money instead of creative outlet. And that is artistically creating a void that they’re hoping AI. 

Quinny 

Hmm. 

Dion 

Fulfill. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Look, it’s it’s bizarre. Cause like I know a kid will watch this and they will be blown away because the story. 

Jill 

But you could also give them the ******* DVD’s. Get the same reaction. 

Quinny 

They they absolutely they. They could and like. But the thing like it’s it’s bizarre cause Gerard Butler plays the same character. So it’s there are parts of it where it’s like it’s almost into uncanny valley. But the other way round. 

Peta 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Speaker 9 

Yeah, yeah. 

Quinny 

Like when you like ohh Gee. What the **** is going on here? 

Dion 

Yeah, you don’t look, you don’t look the same. 

Quinny 

Hmm. Yeah, yeah. Like The thing is, it’s quite good. But like you know, because the original film was quite good, there’s it’s it’s if you like the first film, you will probably like this because it does exactly the same things. It’s just that when you look into its eyes. You can see that there’s nothing past them. 

Speaker 9 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

The best description I could think of, which I put in the review, is that it’s a bit like repertory. Yeah. You know when you do a play? 

Jill 

MHM. 

Quinny 

You know, you’ve got a really good cast, you’ve got a good director. The plays been written and so you just do the play again. But this one, the director was like, no, no, no, we’re doing exactly as it was done on Broadway. And we’re not going to make any changes at all. And the actors don’t get to have any say in it. They just get to do exactly what they did in the in the Broadway one. And if you, if you deviate even a little bit, I’m going. 

Dion 

To spray you with a water bottle, walk to the mark, say. The line get off the stage. 

Quinny 

Exactly. 

Jill 

Really. 

Dion 

Cool. So exciting for that. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yeah. 

Jill 

At least with. Like the Disney ones that turning like a 2D animation into a CGI thing, but like this is just CGI to CGI, but then with humans. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, that’s the one thing I haven’t put. I’ve forgot to put in in review is the one thing it doesn’t do. Well, is the flying stuff. Oh, God, which is the one thing you sort of think that probably would have been the thing to try and get right? I mean, it may have been because I saw it on an IMAX and it was a ******* huge screen and it was, but honestly, there was a little too much of the close-ups and and would be and stuff around, so I couldn’t. 

Jill 

Dion 

They should have done a Margot Kidder voiceover of, like. You read my mind. Flying through the. 

Quinny 

Air. Yeah. Yeah. I’m sorry it took me a moment cause I thought you were talking about Margot. 

Dion 

Here we go. 

Quinny 

Robbie and I was very confused. 

Dion 

Can you read my mind, pudding? 

Quinny 

Sorry. Ohh Pete, sorry you just you just quoted something that is a deep. Cut. But. 

Peta 

Like I meant. It to be as deep as it came. 

Quinny 

Sarah Connor. 

Dion 

Yes. 

Quinny 

For unsatisfactory cliffhanger ending. Holy ****. 

Speaker 9 

Yes. 

Dion 

Yes, thank you. Absolutely great series. Well done. Yeah. Sarah, Chronic Chronicles is great, but ****. Me. Yeah. No. 

Jill 

******* love that service. 

Peta 

I I started but I fully started watching it well after the been cancelled and. Then I was like, what did I do that? Yeah. So the, the, the, the context for anyone who’s not in the chat is that I’m chatting with Casper in the chat about wheel of time and that I’m very disappointed that it’s been cancelled because Series 3 was quite good and. Was not tied up at all. At the end, it was a massive cliffhanger that I didn’t even realize it was the end of the season. I turned it. On the next week, I was. Like what? Ohh no. 

Dion 

Ohh. 

Quinny 

That hurts. 

Dion 

Well, you know, to be honest, I watched maybe 3 episodes of the first season of wheel of time and then I never returned to it. So is it worth going? Is. 

Peta 

It worth going back, just you don’t. Have to stay. In power I do. 

Dion 

Not. 

Peta 

No, I I liked all the time I thought it was genuinely good fantasy television, particularly in in Seasons 2 and 3. Really, really good. Like big battle scenes that felt quite theatrical and Co. All character arcs were happening. I don’t know. I was into it, but I’m a fantasy nerd, so maybe it. Wasn’t that great? I don’t know. 

Dion 

Is, is, shadow and bone still going? 

Peta 

Nope, I didn’t. I didn’t like shadow and bone as much as I liked wheel of time, but that did get a second season at least, yeah. 

Jill 

It. It did, and then it got. Canned after that. 

Quinny 

The the typical Netflix thing, yeah. Two seasons done. 

Dion 

So. They’re coming up. With the final season of Stranger Things so. 

Jill 

Ohh, I can’t even bothered I. 

Speaker 9 

The boss. 

Jill 

Swear it’s been too long. I don’t. Give a ****. 

Quinny 

Your kids are all in their mid 30s now. I mean, they were to begin with but. 

Dion 

Anymore. Yeah, hopefully the the the. Yeah, the stranger things is just the comparison of headshot from the first season to the last season of the kids. It’s like, Yep, that’s real strange. 

Peta 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Yeah. Right. 

Quinny 

What have you been watching, Joe? 

Jill 

I’ve been watching hacks. I’ve been watching poker face, been watching, watching Wrexham. I’ve been watching. 

Quinny 

What, what particular kind of wrestling I’ve watched Lucha? 

Jill 

Libre on the weekend, WWE E took ownership of AAA wrestling and they had an event on this weekend called Worlds Collide. So it was a lot of the WWE Superstars versus. Was the luchadors and so there was a lot of like mixed matches and yeah, it was a lot of fun. It’s on YouTube, so you can find it. You don’t need a subscription to anything. 

Quinny 

Jill 

Yeah, the the world’s collide event was on YouTube. So you could go and check that out if you’re interested. 

Speaker 2 

Oh, nice. 

Jill 

Love Luchador Wrestling is really fun. 

Quinny 

They’ve, they’ve, I’ve always enjoyed the religio stuff because it is like it’s it’s not even attempting to be like the big hard hitting big smashy stuff from the the the normal wrestlers, it’s high flying, it’s top rope, it’s acrobatic, it’s you know. 

Jill 

Yeah. Ohh yeah, when you see them doing like. 

Speaker 9 

480 like Corkscrew lips off the top rope on like it’s crazy. 

Jill 

****, it’s so much fun. 

Quinny 

Yeah, they’re having fun. 

Speaker 5 

Yes. 

Quinny 

I think what else? Oh, we were talking about sirens before. 

Jill 

Yeah, we don’t need to. Talk about that anymore. 

Dion 

That is a weed show. 

Quinny 

Weird weird show in a weird placement sound. The whole thing. 

Jill 

They’ll tell you what’s a weird show that I love, that we’re going to talk about. 

Quinny 

Next week, but yay. 

Jill 

At. Murder. 

Dion 

Yes, that’s next week. 

Peta 

Yeah, watch Murderbot do do the homework because it’s fun homework. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Dion 

It is fun. And what’s it on? 

Peta 

And it’s easy homework because the episodes are so damn short. Oh my God. 

Jill 

Annoyingly short. 

Peta 

So annoyingly short, like stop stopping. Yeah. Yeah, Apple TV. 

Quinny 

MHM. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah, the I guess the thing with murderbot is that it feels like every episode should go longer. It doesn’t feel like a 26 minute like sitcom. 

Jill 

Yeah. You kind of feel. Like you get to the end of the second act and you’re like, OK, so now the rest of. It and then the episode ends. 

Quinny 

You like. 

Peta 

Yeah. Push through the first episode a bit. Because you might watch it in the 1st 10 minutes, be like Nah. 

Quinny 

Hmm. 

Jill 

Yes, that’s only goes. 

Peta 

To 20 minutes, so just keep going. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Peta 

Anyway, more on that next week, otherwise we will not have. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Peta 

Any talk about this? 

Quinny 

Yeah, that’s a good point. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Well, yeah, no, I’ve I’ve been. 

Dion 

Watching a lot of true crime, weird stuff if anyone is on HBO, wants to watch the mortician. 

Jill 

Oh. 

Dion 

Now that is an interesting uh, it’s about. It’s about a very famous uh Californian Funeral Home and about how. 

Jill 

Right. 

Dion 

Ohh. You people went to prison and stuff and about their practices that they were doing and it’s it just gets. It’s one of those ones where it it’s coming out periodically. It’s only had like 2 episodes and there’s more to come. But like halfway through, it’s like Oh yeah. And then they did this. And you’re like, Oh my God. And then it just keeps building like, Oh my God. Oh my. God, they were. What? How, how what? How? Yeah. Anyway, check that out, but yeah, true. Crime. Stuff that’s interesting. Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Hmm. Ohh the other thing I realise I have been watching that I have now in a very torn place over. There’s been Doctor Who. 

Peta 

No, I’m, I’m so far behind on it. I can’t even. I’m I’m I’m so far behind. I really need to have a break from work and catch up. 

Jill 

Are you torn about it? 

Peta 

On some things. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And you should take all of that time off and only catch up with things. Like it’s an entire second job, Peter. 

Peta 

Yes, exactly. 

Quinny 

It and feel guilty about it. 

Peta 

And or like. Oh my God so many. Things don’t even I know, I know, I know, I know. 

Quinny 

Yeah, no. You don’t need to watch and or. You can literally just watch what’s going. On in LA. 

Speaker 3 

Right now. 

Quinny 

There’s episode 8 of season 2. 

Speaker 3 

Right there for you. 

Jill 

Do you enjoy this season of Doctor Who quinny? Why? Why Quinn? 

Quinny 

I know I I enjoyed it. I loved it. I was really, really into it. But I’m sad because by the looks of it, Disney has not renewed their contract. 

Speaker 9 

What’s that? You talk? 

Quinny 

Yeah. And unfortunately we because of that and because of the fact that they took so long to make the decision to renew their contract is why we and I don’t want, hmm. Pete, do you want to know? 

Peta 

I may as well I’m going to see something. 

Quinny 

Peta 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

So This is why. We got a regeneration at the end of the season, yeah. Basically then left should he hanging for the best part of a year, so the last stuff was literally shot a year ago and they hadn’t renewed his contract and then back in February this year, they then went and did reshoots to completely redo the ending. To give him an. 

Jill 

Not so does BBC not own this anymore? 

Quinny 

BBC do own it, but because it was the the bulk of the money for it was coming from Disney. 

Jill 

Well then. Ohh ******* hell, you Disney. **** you. 

Dion 

Maybe they’ll go. Maybe. Maybe they’ll go back to like the old BBC production of it, where it’s like, oh, look, carpet on the wall. Oh, quick, throw some junk on this person. They’re an. 

Jill 

Alien, you know? Yeah, do that. Hmm. 

Peta 

But Disney only got involved. Most recently, didn’t they? They haven’t been. It was just the entire. 

Jill 

I thought that was so like international streaming like because it did get a bigger fan base in the states. I thought that’s all they were there. 

Peta 

Yeah. Yeah, unfortunately, because of international streaming, the legacy broadcasters no longer have the budgets and money that they used to have. So, yeah, yeah, that’s very, very long running show maybe is no longer in the BBC’s budget I. 

Quinny 

So babysit. 

Jill 

Hmm. 

Quinny 

Don’t know and the the ****** part about it is one of the rumours and it’s a pretty big rumour. Is the the main reason? That Disney actually got involved with them on on that was so that they could get the license to blue. And I was like, ****. So at the moment we’ve got a a special, I think it’s 6 episode show coming up called the war between the land and the sea, which I’m not entirely sure when that is. It’s later this year. But after that there is nothing confirmed which is. Is a a ****** situation to to find it in and the worst part is ****** was ******* great. 

Jill 

Yes, yes, he was. 

Quinny 

Like legitimately, a really, really good doctor. And like the the shows were, like, unashamedly queer, totally ******* progressive, really taking swipes at ******* anything that wasn’t nailed down. I love the amount of representation that we were seeing for disabilities. Like there is like Russell, T was really kind of leaning in on the whole, this show is progressive as ****. And now we’re like, OK, well, we’ll just hope that somebody picks it up then. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

And put some money behind it. I’m hoping Netflix or somebody like that goes, you know. 

Peta 

Aren’t rely on the streamers anymore, Buddy. They’re not spending like they used to. 

Quinny 

I know, I know. Umm, I mean, maybe we could have like a. 

Peta 

Dot com to the TV industry it’s it’s it’s a dire situation, honestly. 

Dion 

Yeah. And they got their they got their revenue model and it’s like we need to keep increasing. It’s like how. Well, we’re going to put money up. We’re gonna put ads in, we’re gonna do all this stuff and everyone’s. 

Jill 

Hmm. 

Quinny 

Like, Oh no, this is not what we asked for. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. With, with, with Netflix. Now changing their ad service to being AI driven, it’s like. 

Dion 

Yeah, I mean. You know this is the problem is that there’s always this consistent thing about requirement of a growth model and that’s not how cable TV kind of works. You have a consistency of economy. In. It should be a conservative economy. I was like, no, always more money, need more money, more money, shareholder shareholder, more money. 

Peta 

With the sad thing being like, obviously Doctor Who is the legacy of of one of the world’s great public broadcasters. Yeah. And and now to see it on hold because. Somebody’s not making enough profit from it. Does feel a little bit against the spirit of something that came from one of the world’s great public broadcasters, yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Yes, protect your public broadcasters people anyway. Next week, murderbot funny. Funny how those two things come together. It’s like ohh look, how do we protect public broadcasting? A murder bot. 

Quinny 

Hmm yeah. 

Jill 

Yes. I. 

Dion 

Think so, like Mountain head slightly. Morning. 

Quinny 

Yeah, that was the film. The conversation afterwards was far more interesting to me. Sure. I mean, the conversation with you 434 where Sigma Sigma big green. 

Dion 

Won’t be going. 

Jill 

On. 

Quinny 

My screen but then I. Realized I was one of the. 

Peta 

It’s the Quinn that you’ve been being mean to quinny you’re you’re giving yourself a you’re giving yourself a disassociate. Disassociate of? Yeah, your, your. 

Quinny 

All the way. Identity disorder. I. Knew where you. Were going with it, don’t I? 

Peta 

Stop being mean to quinnie and then maybe Quinny will stop being mean. 

Dion 

And. 

Peta 

To you. 

Dion 

Leave quitting alone. Also, if you’re in Sydney at the moment, Sydney Film Festival’s on, so get out there and maybe see a film. 

Jill 

So. 

Quinny 

Did you watch a film recently? 

Dion 

Yes, just last night I went and saw lesbian space Princess. It’s good to check the trailer into the post and something there, but yeah, look up the trailer for Lesbian Space Princess. It’s very fun and I learned a lot about queer culture that I am not actively in because the movie was very 100,000 billion percent. Not for me as that, but I had a good time. And as the audience because it was fun. 

Jill 

That’s good. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah. Go watch it, you know, go watch something. It’s fun. Thanks, everyone. Thanks. Thanks. Have a great rest of the week and we’ll see you next time for the body murder. 

Speaker 9 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Well. 

Quinny 

You know, sometimes hi and goodbye. 

Speaker 3 

I want to live in a world full of heroes. Now, sit here. Counting zeroes in a cubicle downtown. I want to look. Out my window, see him flying and swing faster horizon. As a child. So bright. The power girl. Sharon out of faith. And have them teach me waiting exercise. I’ll be one of the guy with martial arts from my interesting wall. Up and teacher. I want.