Superman (2025)
Look, up in the sky! Is it a bird? Is it a plane? Is it another confused entry into the DC Extended Universe pantheon of super hero films?! No!!! This is something else entirely! James Gunn (Peacemaker, Guardians of the Galaxy) takes on the D.C. Universe with Superman and is clearly building something new and different… but crucially; is it any good? It’s made a butt-tonne of cash, and out-scored the Snyder-verse it is taking over from, but does it have a beating heart?
There’s some division in the ranks over this one, with everyone having a very different approach to this film that is not just rebooting a universe, but attempting to wash away some of the bad vibes of 12 years of questionable decisions. The whole team is in for this with Dion and Jill in our legion of Doom and Quinny and Peta suiting up as the Justice Gang.
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Synopsis
When Superman gets drawn into conflicts at home and abroad, his actions are questioned, giving tech billionaire Lex Luthor the opportunity to get the Man of Steel out of the way for good. Will intrepid reporter Lois Lane and Superman’s four-legged companion, Krypto, be able to help him before it’s too late?
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Ohh hello and welcome to the periodic table levels. I mean it’s feel good Wednesday night that we’re doing this very special time of Wednesday night. My name is Deon and I’m joined by Peter, Jill and Quinny. And tonight we’re going to be doing. Superman, thanks. Thanks for joining in, but yeah.
OK, great. So look up in this look.
If if you want us In Sync like you have to discuss it with. This. Beforehand. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah. Just give us a pause and then look at. Us meaningfully. Yeah, well.
Yes, otherwise our incredible lack of planning is even more obvious.
All gangs here. Yes. Thank you, Casper. In the chat? Yeah. Whole gangs here and people in. The chat are there, yeah.
We’re all back. We’re doing this now. You know, finally, the summer blockbuster we’ve all been waiting for. Superman.
I’m. I’m excited. I’m super excited.
Look. You are super excited. No, no, Superman. So parse we’re on to Fantastic Four now, that’s the next new hotness.
Yeah. Well, I mean, I don’t have, I don’t have my glasses to give. You Deon, but yeah.
Yeah. We had our own personal Pedro Pascal last night. We didn’t need no premiere.
No. Yes. When the girl. The girl that Porto was so excited.
Did we? Did we premiere? It was just a. It’s the best thing ever.
For like 30 seconds and then she was back to serving hot fresh chicken as fast.
The the look on this young lady’s face, though, and she was like, OK, you want an Oporto burger? What?
Yeah. Are you here for this?
Yeah, yeah. Look, you know, no, it’s not. It’s not me. Pablo Pascal Pablo Pascal, the team Umm Pedro.
The team U version? Yeah.
You’re you’re like Orlando blooms. All the color bloom.
The fat cousin? Yeah, in Pensacola. We all know these things. It’s fine. We’re not there to talk about this. We’re.
Superman, aren’t we focus. Focus back on this. We’re here to talk about Superman. Lex Luthor, Lois Lane and no one else.
Talking about the rest of the. Characters.
No, no, no, just those three. That’s it. OK, that’s what we agreed to right in the pre production meeting. Yeah, that you all attended. I sent you that invitation.
A joke all of the notes we make, all the proof we do like, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, you’re right.
Yeah. Yeah, it’s it’s 15 hours of. Yeah, it’s, it’s it’s 15 hours of prep work for each hour long show.
Sometimes it does feel a bit.
Don’t. You’re reminding me why I stopped doing Animaniacs.
I mean, you know, you’re not wrong.
Can we focus on this? Come on, buddy. OK, guys, up here. Let’s go podcast. Alright.
I’m I’m doing really important stuff.
We’re. Sick man. Yeah. All right. Last week we had the distinct pleasure of going to see Superman. We did. Water brothers. And. It was a big thing.
That’s a big thing. How do we all feel?
Who’s the biggest super fan?
Ohh, there’s a good question.
Yeah. I’m. I’m. I’m big fan of Superman. Love the original 78 film. Probably was, I don’t know for for me, he’s always just been there because of things like super friends, you know? But. I don’t know. I don’t know whether I’d call myself a massive Superman fan, I don’t know.
Yeah, I gotta say, not my favorite superhero. I’m a I’m a Batman girl.
Yeah. But Superman is there.
She likes some dark, dark, gritty and rich.
Not, not corn fed worthy and alien.
Look, I do have a new boyfriend and his name is David Cornstein.
I also have a new boyfriend and that is the Star Wars fan David coins, so you know. Yes.
Yeah, David, David, corn sweat. Who said what? What would you like to build? And he said, give me a *******. Lego kit. Yeah, like he, he’s like I want a Superman Lego kit now, like.
Did you see? Did you see him on the lie detector test where they asked the question of which one would you prefer to do the sequel? The the sequels for Superman or to change and go to become the like into the Star Wars universe and?
He’s like, well, they already have me on a contract for another Superman. So I’ll say yes to the Star Wars. Yeah, I’ll take both.
Peter. Peter, as a lifelong super fan.
Do you? Do you? Would you consider yourself the Superman, Stan?
I mean, Stan would be taking it a bit far. I I’m I’m not. I I don’t dislike Superman. I think. I mean, my first experience with Superman was the old opening title sequence from the old TV show. You know, and then well, is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it’s Superman. Which was the only thing we knew about Superman for a little while. So when we played Superman and Wonder Woman.
Hang on, which which old TV show? All right.
Superman could be a bird or a plane, or faster earth speeding bullet, and that was it. That’s all we had. We did not grow up with comics. We grew up with sound bites. And then Lewis and Clark, and he ain’t he ain’t no one Superman anymore, so I’m happy. I’m happy for a new Superman. I mean, I I, I you know. Yeah, I I was excited for Henry at the time but.
Yes. No, what a ********.
Wasn’t a fan of the dark?
The dark reboot. Didn’t some somebody who knows nothing really about the character just didn’t feel right to try to dark reboot? Superman didn’t didn’t really work for me, so I’ve I’ve I jumped off the Super train and.
So so you’re trying to tell me that you you weren’t big on Man of Steel, didn’t get into Batman versus Superman and then didn’t love Justice League? Is that what I’m hearing?
I didn’t watch Justice League. I didn’t watch Batman versus Superman because when it comes to DC movies, I wait for you guys to watch them and then you tell me if I should watch them. And that’s usually how it goes. Yeah. Wait, who was who was the one that was before Henry and like? 2000 and.
Brandon, Ralph. Yes, Brandon. Ralph. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I like chicks.
I will die on that hill. Yeah, I loved that.
Movie. I like that movie. I saw it. I saw it like in an IMAX theatre in Minnesota or something.
Yeah. And it was also shot in Sydney.
Yes, it was. And my my 6° of separation I don’t know how many degrees this makes it, but my father changed the traffic lights in the Sydney CBD to American traffic lights so they could film the scenes in the street.
That’s definitely about 6:00 because he didn’t actually interact with anyone.
He worked. He worked on the film. He did.
Sure. We we did work on the.
Film it’s true, it’s true. So you gotta you’ve gotta count. Like, who was that then? Who was the person he spoke to that was closest to speaking to Brandon ramp?
Work on the film. Yeah, I’ll let’s just say 3, that’s great.
Great. Look, my degrees of separation with Brandon Ralph is one. I’ve met him. Yeah, he’s a very nice man. I really.
Queen, we’ve talked that.
That’s technically considered.
Yeah. OK. And he has vegan power.
He does have amazing like.
Because he he’s part of the vegan police. No, wait. He got his head, then stripped.
Yes, yes. Because he had cheese at some point, got some Scott Pilgrim.
That’s right. This is all Scott Pilgrim work. OK, fine. But he’s also got another DC superhero, hasn’t he? In the TV.
Adam. Yeah. Anyway, more away from Superman. Don’t forget that that the the Superman movie.
Superman in the Elseworlds stuff in.
Yes. Yeah, he was the the Kingdom come version of Superman, which I ******* loved.
So the last time we saw Superman on screen was in the post credit sequence of Black Adam. You forgot about that one, didn’t you?
Yes, we did. Nope, unfortunately.
Which was Henry Cavill’s reintroduction into the DC Universe, only to be told very politely. I hope by James Gunn. Nope. Go on. Go on a different direction. So yeah, man.
Yeah, but first up though. Like, I mean before we.
He’s doing all right. He’ll be fine, OK?
Get too. Before we get too into it, do we have a a synopsis about this new Superman and do you have any requests of the type of accent that what should accent should Quinney be doing it in?
I’ll do it on the timing news guy.
I was going to say manic tech bro, but yeah, no. We’ve we’ve had many tech bro recently so.
Yeah, right. OK. OK, we, we got we got a musical thing on this one.
No worries. Oh yeah, why not? There you go.
I can’t hear it, but I really want. To do when it. When it hits the its stride.
When Superman gets drawn into conflict at home and abroad, his actions are questioned, giving tech billionaire Lex Luther the opportunity to get the Man of Steel out of the way for good will. Intrepid reporter Lois Lane and Superman’s 4 legged companion crypto be able to help him before it’s too late. Find out in Superman 2025.
I don’t give a **** the original music’s. Still banging? Yeah.
I mean that that that’s that. That’s the most fun **** accent we’ve had in a long time. It was barely even.
Ship quinny. I don’t know.
Yeah. There we go. People are saying that’s that’s that’s one of your best.
That was actually. Vaguely close to what I was aiming for. ******* terrifying.
Yes. So here we are, James Gunn. After being ceremony unceremoniously booted from the Marvel Universe and then welcomed back to it so we can do. The end of his trilogy, but during that that brief period of booting was essentially said. Ohh well, if they don’t want you we we’ll give you like. All this other ****. And he then went and made Suicide Squad. And then. Was essentially given the keys to the Kingdom and said you can make your DC.
I’ll tell you what you can fit so many James Gunn elements in this bad boy you’ve got. Kaiju size aliens. You’ve got a quirky, lovable animal. You’ve got deep cut comic book characters. You’ve got obscure version of a mainstream character and.
The pistol resistance. The one shot fight sequence.
Yes, yes, swoopy camera that does all of the the swooping Ness. Yeah, and lots of fisheye lens stuff.
Not much. Snoopy ******* camera in this film. Yeah, besides the fight scene, a lot of swoopy camera.
Yeah. So, yes, what do we do? We like James Gunn as a director. I look, I OK I do. I like James Gunn. I’m gonna say that. But feel free to tell me what you all think.
I mean, I found all of the guardians of the Galaxy films very enjoyable. I do like his, you know, I guess you would call it his vision that he. Makes in his films, you know, he’s. Got a very. Clear aesthetic and it’s like a comedy slant on. Serious issues I guess, but also very heartfelt. Yeah, he tends to put a. Lot of himself in his movies and actually crypto is based on his dog.
Yeah, who is very bad dog. Yeah, but I love him nonetheless.
So yeah, I I like James Gunn films.
Pete, where are you at with our J?
No, I mean I I don’t have super strong feelings, but I don’t think I’ve ever been. Mad at them.
Not even for the tweets that he’s trying to redeem himself from.
I would have to be reminded a a bit, but.
Or you can find them, but it’s someone who is like 20.
I was gonna say it’s like, well in the past. And he’s been like ohh, that was bad, right? Yes, he hasn’t. He hasn’t been like, sorry if you’re offended. No. No. OK, well, then that’s like, people make mistakes when they’re young.
He’s probably 1. Of the rare people that came away from an attempted cancelling but yeah.
Yeah, I would agree with that. Like I think he. Was able to do the the thing of going own it say yeah, that was me. That was back then. I don’t agree with this **** now. I I let my record of the last how many films I’ve made be my kind of my statement as to what kind of a person. I am now. Which I kind of agree with. I think he I think what he’s trying to say most of the time is generally the right thing Ding.
Ohh, he was he was saying stuff quite loudly this time. But Oh yeah.
I’ve been a fan of James Gunn’s work since PG ****. Which you might. Yeah, I know. Right. People like wait. What? Yeah, he did a thing called PG **** for Spike TV. She was always great because always cut away before any of the real **** happened. It was quite great. And Nathan fillion’s. In. It if you ever wanted that. So you go look that up. Look, he’s kind of hit and miss, but you know. I like that he came from a very do-it-yourself roots sort of thing, working with chroma when he when he hits his stride really well is is in great filming. Like, you know, some of his films are are actually quite fun and exciting. And he he brings the. UMI think? Sense of joy and a bit of wonder and a bit of stupidity to kind of every single film that he’s in that he does. So yeah, I mean when this was announced that he was gonna be doing Superman or, you know, heading DC into a new direction, I was like, huh, OK can be a bit, Sammy, with your your stuff because you’ve got your formula, which works. And you you’ve been hammering out the same way for a few times, but alright, let’s let’s go see what you’re gonna do with this one. I’ll give it a go. You seem to make. Paining things which is. Exciting. And also he’s happy to. You know, as with peacemaker and suicide, the Suicide Squad. Sorry. He’s happy to to. You’d be a bit creative with what’s going on by not talking about specific characters, but by building a story around misfits and things you wouldn’t really think of. He likes the latitude, I think, rather have to go down the thing like. I mean, I wouldn’t really want to watch James Gunn’s bat.
Was it? Yeah, it’d be a bit. It’d be a bit strange, but James Gunn’s Lobo could work. Yeah.
No. I and I think this I think a lot of people were fairly concerned or at least trepidatious about James Gunn, Superman, because what we’ve seen him do before now has always been about. Outsiders, misfits. You know, like peacemaker, people who are not necessarily good people. You know, the the guardians of the Galaxy are all not necessarily good people. So how does how is it going to play? When he is. You know very much, looking at a paragon, you know, how do we deal with somebody who is just straight up good?
You know, is he gonna be able to handle that and personally? I thought he did.
Yeah. Well, I think what aided him was having a a periphery of weirdos. Yeah, yeah.
Gotta admit, I was one of the people who was like.
Yes, we all exclaimed after the movie when Dion said, who was that? Who was that? Who was that? And yeah, we said pick up.
Book. See I’m. I’m. I’m just used to that experience so it.
Doesn’t bother me. I don’t know who any of these people are. I know Luther. I know, Lois. I know Superman. Yeah, Jimmy.
So. So Dion, you’ve never run across Mr. Terrific before? Nope, never run across the garden before.
Who was the chick with Wings Hawk girl?
Ohh and then there was the other one that did.
Right, I guess. Here’s here’s the thing. This is an unashamedly comic book loving movie. Yeah. And the characters that they are choosing to.
Difference are not just the big triumvirate, not the what do they call them? The big three? Yeah, they’re, they’re they’re. They’re not the big three. They’re not the Justice League. This is the other guys. It’s green. Not just a Green Lantern. It’s the Green Lantern. That everybody.
The ******** Green Lantern with the.
Worst hair? No, that was that was the Ryan Reynolds one.
It can get worse. You know it’s it’s Mr. Terrific who is, you know, the lot. People have seen him in recent years. He did show up in Arrow as a as a recurring character, but probably not in a way that people would go. Oh, there’s there’s somebody who needs to be on a big screen.
I had the same reaction when I saw polka dot man. I was like, OK, fine. But then I was watching this going I I don’t know why. Why does Superman even talk to these people? Aren’t they beneath him?
Welcome to my side of the fence there.
One thing I will say I do think the film look, I’m I’m putting my my word out there right now. I enjoyed it a lot. I thought it was a lot of fun and really, really enjoyable and hit a lot of emotional notes. But the phrase that I have used to describe it to a few people is silly. Like it is willfully silly. And occasionally goofy. And when it does, big action sequences and stuff it it really leans into this, the kind of silliness of. Ridiculous superpowers. You know you can have 100 flying jetpack goons attach themselves to Superman, and he will just spin like a a top and then they all go flying and it’s it’s cartoon world. Whereas. The the other thing is it’s silly, but at the same time it’s very grounded in its emotions.
Yes, yes, I would agree with you.
And I remember watching it and thinking, oh, that one’s going to be that’s going to be divisive.
And. Yeah, the the whole film, because honestly, I think. If you.
But isn’t it? Isn’t it just dividing like people with empathy and ********?
But that’s not what I thought was gonna happen. I thought it was going to divide people into people who wanted us a a more serious take on a superhero. Ohh. OK and people.
Who were just like, yeah, comic book superhero, bright colors, Superman robots, you know, crypto.
Yeah, that’s what kind of makes it hard for me to recommend to people because my parents love to watch movies. They like the superhero stuff, and so my mum was like, how was Superman? I said.
But at the same time, I’m thinking you’re not going to get half of the references in this film. Like it’s definitely not built for a layman.
You don’t. You don’t need to get the references for it to be fun, though. I think if if you had to get the references.
I feel like 75% of it is references.
I mean. Are you? Maybe you need.
To get into the spirit of it, like I’d never heard it, I didn’t know Superman. Had the dog, but.
The Super Dog never had a crypto and never heard.
Of crypto, but I would say that that that was like the the film signalled what it was very big, very quickly from the beginning in terms of tone and kind of used crypto to do that. And and given I didn’t even watch the trailer for this, I was like, just like we’re going. To see the. New Superman Film Zero other information except for that one still that got released ages ago. I did not know what we were going internally. So so it took that for me to be like, ah, OK, this is where we are. This is what we’re expecting. That’s cool. But like, it didn’t bother me that I’ve never heard of crypto before. Didn’t bother me that I never heard of that particular version of the Green Lantern before, although the head did confuse, confuse me a lot.
Well, maybe because I’m often watching these things with people who do more comics than me. I’m just very used to not getting most of the references and being like along. For the ride.
Fair Tari in the chat, saying that the trailer makes it look serious. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that.
I mean, there’s definitely got serious elements and serious themes. It’s it’s got a serious take, but it it it has a lens of comedy that makes it. It’s very clear from the beginning and that’s what it is. I did find it totally tricky, to be honest. Like I enjoyed the silliness. I enjoyed the comedy, but. I couldn’t quite get my stride in for like. Good first half of the movie. Just totally I I I couldn’t. I couldn’t quite get my hooks into. Into. Where it was and I don’t know if it’s because it didn’t feel. Like if it was like the first episode of A. New TV series. It would have been perfect. There was just something tonally about it that didn’t that didn’t, or maybe it was structurally, that didn’t feel like cinema esque to me.
There was a moment. In the first half of the film, where I did like, make a comment to myself where I was like, this doesn’t really feel like it has a lot of substance. Like it kind of struggles with the message that it wants to convey and. Being comedic like, I don’t know that any of the serious moments really. I don’t know, it held. You long enough to connect. If that makes sense.
In in the first half or in. The whole film in.
The whole film I I I there.
Were a few moments where I I was really tuned into the series and the emotional like there are a couple of bits with his parents that I was just like, oh Jesus Christ, that that got me right in the in the fields. I.
Don’t know, just some of the some of it just felt rushed. I’m like, it feels like. It’s trying to rush through. These serious beats, or these emotional moments to to get to the next comedy bit, I don’t know.
It definitely felt like it was. It was rushing through stuff, agreed. Like there are, there are points where it sort of introduces a concept and then.
You kind of rushed through to the bit where it’s suddenly the next big. Crisis or whatever.
And yeah, it’s. It’s it. It feels like it’s at breakneck pace, kind of a lot of the way through.
Yeah, I was tempted to actually try and catch it again before we chatted. I just to get another go at it.
Look. I mean, I’m down for stuff. And I’m down for all of this thing. But I mean, my one take away that I had for it is ohh, it’s Superman movie. It’s not for me. Like I watched it and I was like, I was there for this. I saw all this just like, I mean, I thought there were. There were bits that that they did, which I really got and I really believed. I thought they, like, knocked it out of the park. I was like, I’m 100% here for certain things, like, certain interpersonal relationships, certain kind of scenes and ideas. I was like, that is. Like, that’s beautiful. You’ve really nailed it and it shows what you’re trying to do. And then there were other stuff there that I was like, why is this? Part. Of this, this doesn’t need to be part of this. I’m slightly confused about where this is all sitting in relation to. It seems like there was a Justice League, but there has been something that happens that has, I know, but this is I’m talking about how I interpreted stuff I was like. I feel like, oh, there was a Justice League for a while there, but now there’s not really a Justice League. But now there’s something else going on, like it was like, oh, we’re we’re going and there’s a world and it’s happening. And some things you won’t know because you haven’t. We haven’t explained, but we’re not going to. You’re just gonna move forward with this. And I was like, OK, that’s all right. I can sort of get on board with it. But it felt like I was being missing critical pieces of information. And then also like, oh, I don’t understand why these other characters are there. This seems like it’s all very haphazard. Some characters are completely underutilised.
Like a hot girl, I thought she was. She was pointless if you took her out. I don’t think anything would be missing. There’s no. And that’s a shame because you know, like you want every character. Yeah. Yeah. You want all that stuff to be there?
Great actors, but also cool characters.
Yeah, and and. But to did it look cool in this? Nope. I can say distinctly that I looked at every time she was on screen. Like, ohh. It’s kind of dull. This is a bit better in Black, Adam. I know, right? OK. That was called man. Was it?
One girl. Well, one of them was in. Wasn’t there a hawk girl in one or something?
There was a hawk girl in legends of.
You don’t. I don’t do a lot of DC. Sorry. I wasn’t really a DC person, but I get. Some of the.
Ideas. I realize now that I actually am more of a DPDC person than I.
I I was so angry when I walked out because one of the things I said quietly to Quinney was like, I’m so so pisssed off because I feel like I need to defend the Snyder verse slightly. And I was angry with my and I still am. I’m still kind of angry with this. I was like, ohh, there’s some things that Snyder verse did a lot better, but I really want to enjoy. The.
This new one I just kind of went. I don’t I I don’t. You know, I think ultimately what I want is I don’t want a Superman movie with all these other people. I just want a Superman movie. Just give me Superman and Lois. And maybe legs loose or throw him in. Sure, he’s OK, but I don’t. I didn’t need the rest. Yeah, and it was.
Yeah, I will just say for the chat, those that haven’t seen it yet, we’re kind of thrown into the midst of an unfolding situation. There’s there’s not really a beginning, middle and end to it. It’s where where. Thrown into a situation. And it kind of never gets out of that for the whole film. We just always seem to be in a moment and there’s no explanation to, like, some of this stuff. And like I can. Make my way through the movie with plenty of context clues. That’s fine, but I would have loved to have had more moments completely fleshed out and.
Little bit more on. Board with what’s actually going on, especially like the relationship around Clark and his coworker. I don’t really feel like I got to see a lot of Clarke. Even Lois didn’t really feel fully formed for me and I really have one complaint about her character is that she did not do any journalism. She she was discovered some photos.
By via somebody else and then was able to piece together what was actually happening. In the plot that Superman is trying to uncover. So for me, not a great lowest, even though I love Rachel Brosnahan.
It’s gonna it’s gonna make absolutely every single journalist who actually does work in research like this scream internally more.
Yeah, but unfortunately I think a lot of modern journalism is just being lucky.
Yeah. No, but like this, this is the thing because it’s kind of I just want to like put that out. It’s going literally. Entire crew of journalists is is together to how do they release the stories like great, we’ll do it on the fly and then they’re doing it like by editing on their. Phones and sending an e-mail and.
No, that that is ******* great cause I actually saw a journalist say my favorite part of this movie was Jimmy Publishing the story through a CMS accurately.
Ohh. Yeah, yeah, sure. But I mean doing. It doing it while they’re running around going. Ohh yeah, it’s ready. Goes press send. Now we have to do it. I’m like.
Yeah, yeah. And published too. Social publish.
In other news, Jimmy can get it apart.
Apparently, yeah. Jimmy lays more cable than anyone in this book. And. I don’t think anyone knows why.
Jimmy does, and Jimmy needs some.
Yeah, Jim. Jimmy. Eat world. Ohh wow.
Yeah, yeah, I I agree. I think like I I will come to the defense of the movie in a lot of cases because there’s a lot of it that I think is a lot of fun. And you know, the thing that I love about it is that it’s it’s it plays well to kids like the and the Minecraft.
But how nice is it to to see a kid wanting to play with a Superman toy as opposed to if I could Minecraft toy anyway? But yeah, like that, that stuff with the the people in the daily Planet definitely feels a bit undercooked. Like you’ve got Cat Grant there who? Is, you know there you know what she does.
Yeah. And then you got. Like a couple of other random reporters, I’m like.
You got Steve Lombardo there.
Who just seems like a ********. Yeah. And they were. Yeah. I love the relationship between Lois and Clark, though. Like, yeah, like.
Yeah, well, what was it, Clark or was? It Superman, yes.
Yeah, I it’s, I said, like I really was on board with that. I thought the dynamic between Lois and Clark or Cael, like all of that. Was great. Like I went. Yep, they’re definitely cool, funny people who are trying to work out a relationship in this world that they’ve got around them. And I really got it. And I was like hats. Off to them. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. And then there was other things. Like the **** is Mr. Terrific and why does. He have balls.
They’re tears, fears, tears, fears.
Yeah, man.
Sure. I mean, you know and it’s it would be alright? Well, like what is the engineer? Why is she dangerous? I don’t.
Oh, I’m so I don’t know. Yeah.
They told you she has nanobots.
You know bots. Yeah, but I. Mean **** that. I mean, there are some. There are some annoying things about comic book movies because you know what? We were all annoyed by the giant sky beam and this one, thankfully, just let you all know there is no giant sky beam, no sky beam. There’s a giant.
There is an underground Fight Club.
Yes, and the giant. And there’s a giant. There’s a giant crack.
Which is the same thing as the giant sky, but it has the same yeah.
It’s the exact opposite, in fact.
It’s a giant wall destroying rift. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it’s made of bismuth. Yeah. What the **** is going on with that? It was just.
Yes, and as until a joke that came later, which was? Oh, yes. Lex Luthor was just a businessman.
Gone. No, exactly. For people going the the the, the, the, the big Destructo thing that whatever is happening, it looks like it’s just macro views of bismuth for me.
Yeah. Do we like Nicholas? Holt’s performance as like we thought.
I always like Nicholas Holt, so I’m I I I I can’t have that conversation.
Why not? He got paid $2,000,000. For this film.
Good for him. Is that all?
Yes, but do you know how much Superman got paid? The same as Lois, but less, but much less.
Ohh really? He got the he got the pretty privilege he got. Ohh.
750 tags each. Yeah, but they also both within written into it that they they had a lower fee because they have a back end deal. So they’ve got.
I want a back end deal please.
With who? With Nicholas Holt or with?
No. Yeah, with my new boyfriend.
I love it. You, you ladies, you can. You can divide them up, Pete. You can have Nicholas Holt. Jill, you can have David Corus wet. I’ll take crypto, apparently.
And I will pat him, I will pat him and love him and call him George.
Great. So it just leaves me with the Lois and I haven’t even watched the fabulous Mrs. Maisel.
That did distract me because I didn’t realise she was lost because, as I said, I hadn’t looked into the movie at all and just the entire time my brain was like. But it’s the marvelous missus.
Yeah, you, you get #5 or as he’s better known, Gary.
Yeah. No, like 100% if I got to hang out with Alan Tudyk for the rest of my life, I would be down for that. I’d be like, yes, please give me.
Man, I did. I did love it. I looked up who the other.
Are. Yeah. So Superman robot number one is Michael Rooker.
Oh, I was. Wondering why he was credited on who was he?
Yep, and Superman robot #5IS. Pom clementia? Yeah. There’s, like, there are a bunch of little things in there, like, you know.
Ah, nice. Just James Gunn’s friends.
Yeah, James Gunn’s friends like Bradley Cooper gets to look in.
Bradley deal was so shocked that he didn’t. He convinced himself it wasn’t Bradley Cooper.
Yeah, I thought it was to start with. I’m like ohh, that’s funny. And then later I’m like, no, that’s not him. No, it wasn’t him, right? It was someone else.
One of my favorite stupid and and something OK, something that probably should be said if you love the 1978 movies like so Superman, Superman 2. Hmm. This has got a lot of love for those films, and that particular kind of style.
I I feel it’s got more in common with Superman 3 onwards.
That two it has a bit of three and four in there as well. In fact, it’s got.
But I mean. Superman. Superman. A lot of Superman 4. Yeah, I mean, like I like Superman 1. I do not find that this is the same as Superman 1 because it had the stupidity of Superman 2 when he throws his *******. Symbol that wraps like. That’s the kind of somewhat stupid ideas that come out. You’re like, oh, bold choice, but I guess. I feel like that’s OK.
Yeah. Like I I think this has got more in common with the the funny parts of Superman 1, like the the Lex Luthor and Otis and Miss Tessmacher, and then stuff like that. Yeah. You know, those kind of elements of Superman 1 and yeah, a lot of Superman four. I was actually really shocked at how much.
Referencing there was to Superman 4, which is make no mistake, the worst of those Mens sure super men super anyway, but my favorite is there’s a character in there who’s Lex, who’s main thug character by the name of. Otis. So Otis, of course, being from the old films. But this new character is called Otis Berg, and that’s the name of the country that Otis wanted to have for himself in the. 78. I’m going to. Mr. Luthor, I’m going to have a place and. It’s gonna be called Eldersburg.
I mean, look, also I want to I want to put it because a few people in the chat haven’t watched it yet, which is fine. Yeah. It’s OK. There was a lot of dog in this. Like, I mean there’s there’s so much. There’s almost too much dog. I know.
There’s a lot of dog, it’s got.
The dog in it. Oh, come on.
Know look at this this whole thing. These were divisive.
What are you, a cat person?
No, I’m a dog person, but I thought in this there was like there is a little bit too much dog.
In this and also the dog. Anyway, I can’t explain like the whole thing is I can’t say I I watched it and by the end I’m like it’s not really for me. I don’t. I don’t really, I’m not.
For this, but I want to be is that does that? Does that make sense?
I went in hoping that this would be kind of for me, you know, like ohh. Great. Maybe this will be a new Ave. to get into the DC cinematic world that they’re probably building and stuff like there’d be something to get and there’s like.
Oh, I feel like this is absolutely not.
My kind of jam, but I hope it will.
I I just wanted to see a movie about soup. Men. Not Superman. Conflicted ideologies of other stuff that people maybe are doing at him or or all this other stuff. And they’re very over complicated **** like, you know, ultimately at the heart, Lex Luthor is still the same. Thing that he was in the original. Gene Hackman dies.
Yeah, I really think, yeah.
I feel like Nicholas Holt was really channelling Gene Hackman, to be honest.
You don’t feel more topical?
I’m gonna say Superman has always been this topical.
But in in terms of that particular character now feels particularly topical.
I think, well, I think that they’ve just updated it to more modern things and I’m going to say stuff like social media and trolling and that kind of stuff. Because there’s, like a great gag throughout the the film about Superman not reading the comments.
Just hateful. And then we find out later who is writing those comments. Which is quite humorous, but. It’s. Yeah, I think it’s always had that theme.
Yeah, I’m and I’m, I’m glad. I’m glad that. Ohh well, I was talking about Luther specifically as a specific character being a billionaire tech bro megalomaniac that.
You’re you’re talking about Luther.
Actually, you know, literally trying to take over the world by helping to engage small countries.
I mean, I saw a really great headline that just said Superman is not work, it’s just we have real life super villains now. So that’s why it is so relatable. Yeah.
Yeah. But you’re right. I mean, all of these things have always had messages. So I was glad in this case that there was like strong messaging within the plot and within. Each of the characters. So even when I wasn’t quite catching up with the tone or like you said you, you kind of do get kind of thrown into the middle of the story and maybe that’s why I didn’t feel like I would catch up. There’s definitely not an origin story. But even when I, you know, was kind of like.
I’m still not sure I’m feeling what this is. I was kind of appreciating that it was staying true to the genre in terms of its. In in in terms of its messaging and how topical it was being.
Yeah. Look, I I’m a big fan of the fact that it it it didn’t stutter like when it’s saying hey, you know countries invading other countries as far and you know a fairly thinly. Veiled, like OK, completely thinly veiled thing saying, hey, this country that looks an awful lot like Israel this country. That looks an. Awful lot like Palestine. Yeah. This is a ****** situation. Wouldn’t it be nice if somebody could just, you know, go in and give the middle finger to? You know, literally the middle finger to an oppressive regime, you know, like. I can see where people are jumping around saying it’s woke. Absa, ******* lutely. It’s. It makes no bones about where it’s politics. Like, yeah.
The only problem is it’s like, that’s just, you know, the group of people who are complaining about this sort of stuff. I feel like, well, you’re the sort of people who, like, say that the Punisher is part of the police force. Like you just you’re not, actually.
Yeah, they don’t understand it like Superman has been woke since 1938, when he was created like, yeah.
Yeah, well, the 50s after the Japanese thing, but we won’t go there. Yeah.
He was he was fighting the Klan in 1940.
True, true, you know. But there was a bit of problematic World War 2 stuff. So, but you know, hey. You can’t win them all, but yeah, look, it is a whole thing that. This is someone who’s trying to fight for the underdog, for the little guy to stand up to, to face down bullies and all that sort of stuff. And what happens when the bullies are the ones that are kind of running stuff. You know, then you can’t be surprised. I was like, ohh. Maybe we’re the bad guys like. Yes. That’s what we’re telling you. We’re actually telling you you’re doing **** things and stop it, because that’s not what we want to be.
That’s the part of this movie that, like, struck me the hardest was when, you know, bullies pile on when the heroes down like Superman has a moment where, you know the press and online is picking him apart and then that’s when you know, people decide to strike you when.
You’re at your week. Just and have made no secret about having endured bullying through high school, so it was a very resounding moment for me. I ******* hated it, but. Yeah, I think it’s still important to include stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, it was a hard watch.
So this is what I say. Like when, when, what, when I was watching it and like some of the stuff it when it hits it. It hits. Really, really well and that’s.
Yeah. Very yeah. Poignant stuff.
Yeah. And then, you know, other times it’ll go from that though, to a scene of a, an entire building collapsing over a particular thing. Or, you know, the fictional idea that Metropolis can be evacuated in about 20 minutes.
Yeah. I mean, suspension of disbelief. Dion, come.
Excuse me. What? I I’m a logistics based person and even I know you can’t evacuate patrol. I mean Gotham. Different story. We can get people out, no problem. It’s basically Islam.
What I did enjoy about that that sequence, though, was the difference between. Something like that sequence and Man of Steel where you’ve got like a Superman.
Which is why I did not like Man of Steel. I was like, I know nothing about Superman, but this don’t feel right.
Like just having a a running battle through the streets and smashing through.
Just shocking a guy through buildings like just the entire battle was him throwing that guy through buildings that had people in them.
There’s no. Yeah, yeah. And then at the end of it killing. You know which like is is one of those things that is just like ohh. Whereas in this one.
Yeah, that lost me when he killed Zod. That lost me. I’m like, this is not.
Superman. Yeah. And. And OK. He couldn’t. He couldn’t do it any other way. Yeah, he can. He’s Superman. And I love this one for, like, all of those moments where he’s like somebody, you know, does something to the Kaiju and he’s like, come on, man. I was going to put that in a. Like a space prison thing or.
Yeah, and like Superman does have his his little space zoo, like with all his funny little creatures.
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly like. But I think to to make him and the the the level of good these and that that altruism where he will save a squirrel where he will, you know try and get a dog out of the way to keep it from being you know hurt whatever to make him work. You kind of have to place him in this almost silly space.
Like you know, this is this is a Superman who goes and talks to his funny robots and can fly into the heart of a black black hole like this. This is very, very much Frank quietly, kind of All Star Superman, which is, you know, really kind of leaning in on the Silver Age, the. The really kind of over the top stuff. But to do that, that’s why you can have him be so good. But then they ground that I I personally thought it was a ******* incredible kind of balancing act where they allowed him to be, you know, cartoonishly lovely.
But then would ground it with something like when the the mayor and Par Kent first showed up. I was like, holy ****, this is a bit much, isn’t it? Like, you know.
They were really giving adventures of Superman, Marion. Park Kent to be on.
Hmm, yeah. But then by the end of it, I was like ohh, I’m fully invested in these sweet, lovely people.
Yeah. What do you mean? They’re just regular folk?
Who were just trying to be good and try to like to think they’re not like Kevin Costner’s saying. No, no, don’t sacrifice it like I wouldn’t. I was.
That movie just reminding me how much I ******* hated Man of Steel.
Yeah. No, no. I don’t save me. Don’t reveal your secret. Oh, and by the way, maybe you should have let some.
Yeah. Yeah, because that’s that’s how you get a Superman that kills people. Rather than this one.
It’s like you raised me to be good, and then I found out that I wasn’t supposed to be good. Ohh, but no, I I’m still gonna be good.
Hang on. All right. Any final thoughts before we rate?
I think I just waxed a little too lyrical then so I I think I’ve said as much as. I need to.
Yes. Clip then right, mainly because it’s very late. Well done. Good call, Jill, I could join me to start the the clip then. Right. You want to go clip then? Right. Which one? Which one do you want? The you get out of here or the dog? The dog. Do you want to see the dog?
It’s good for you. Dog. Dog. Ohh.
What the hey, dude, I I thought you destroyed the whole Superman robots. I thought I told you to keep an eye on him.
We feed the canine, but he is unruly and he realizes we are not flesh and blood and couldn’t in our heart of hearts care less whether he lives or. Dies.
Out, out, stop out. Stop. Crypto out. Out. Stop it. Stop, sit, sit, stay.
Oh, there we go. Yes, the very bad dog who is a good dog but a bad dog. Unless before dog. Yes, trying. Is James going trying to make us all Crypto Bros? OK, ratings hit the ratings. Go on.
I wanted to like it more than I did. I really, really wanted to like it more. Than I did.
Oh, ****. You’re going to be harsh. I’m going to give it.
Had enjoyable moments. But there’s just something about it that didn’t click for me. I don’t ******* know what it was. I mean, I touched on some of the the moments a lot of out of context stuff, just not enough fleshing out of some characters. Like maybe it was doing too much. I.
It’s so strange because I was heading towards 60. I’m gonna give it 60. I know, right? I was heading towards 60, which I thought was like rough, but I was like, ohh true. Yeah, that’s the thing like.
But. I liked it. I had fun it.
Not enough that did it. For me, yeah, that’s right. Can.
I go not for me. Like, you know, like.
Even those beautiful dimples.
I don’t remember. I don’t remember that character.
I feel like it’s a song like if. If I were to separate everything out and perhaps put it in a different context, I would enjoy each of those bits more. But yeah, together I just. I was like, oh, it was entertaining. But did I have a good time? With it I’m like fine. You know. If they announce Superman 2 tomorrow, would I be rushing out to see? I’m like depends. It’s gonna be more the same same. Anyway, there I did 60. That’s fine.
Pete, where you got with it?
I’m not gonna. I’m gonna be a little bit kinder to it because, like, I’m genuinely so used to not knowing what’s going on or who anyone is that none of that stuff actually bothered me, and partly because I I appreciate the the messaging that it was going for, and there were lots of bits that I did appreciate, but. I just structurally totally couldn’t quite get my hooks in. To it, but it’s not to say that I wouldn’t recommend it. I still think it’s an entertaining film, so I’m just gonna say 70.
Yeah, I agree with Brent. In the chat. They said it feel like it needs a second viewing to appreciate. And I did kind of want to see it again before we did this show, but didn’t get time. I do wanna watch it again.
Yeah, I I do really want to begin.
And also need to see it twice to make it good. Probably like isn’t like yeah positive rating.
So for now, 65 still sticks, yeah.
Look, I was talking to other person who saw it and had had a conversation online and they gave it a rating, but the.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The monkey called Waterworth, but he made a really interesting point, which is the film itself. And the way the film is made. Has some goofy moments, and like there are bits that don’t work, and it’s kind of clunky, and there are sequences that feel rushed and there are characters that feel underused and everything. So the film itself, I said, he said I’d break that about a 60. 5. But. The feeling that I got from it. Was much higher, you know, and there are moments that it hit its stride where you see, like, you know, the the there’s a moment where the the building comes crashing down and it’s just dust. And. You see the the silhouette of Superman rising above it, and I was like, oh **** me. That’s a beautiful shot. You know, and there were moments where he was talking to Luthor, where I was like, God, that’s a ******* rip. A piece of writing. And, you know, there were all these moments throughout that that made me feel a lot. Different about the film and. That’s the thing. Like I remember watching it going. People are gonna be really torn over this one. Turns out they weren’t. It’s made of ****** out of money. But. I think I was also looking at myself going I’m torn on this film like I can see that there are lots of bits that don’t work particularly well, but I’m having a ******* great time. And when it does it, it does it beautifully. So for me, somewhere around that 80 mark.
Like I’ve I’ve really enjoyed it. I think the. Like. It’s not hitting the ******* heights of of Logan, you know, it’s.
Yeah. Didn’t blow my ****.
Off Peter, how how are your tints? Are they still? Sorry.
That’s the new rating system.
2020 I can mine are here still.
From now on I’m just writing 1-2 or zero like. That’s how many tips are left.
How they treat you? I like that we’ve been doing this for this many years and. We’ve only now come. To a rating.
Agree on a perfect natural rating system.
Renaming to the periodic tides of awesome.
You heard it here first. In this ultra wide for truth, justice, and. The tight way. How do we get here? Sorry, Kenny, you were talking very earnestly about lucky Superman and now.
No, I’m. I’m all down for.
I said bring us back to reality.
I I think I think I’ve said quite a lot. I talked about this on ABC Radio. I’ve I’ve, yeah, I’ve kind of kind of said my piece on this whole thing.
I watch this Superman in another film or a a successive sequel. Yeah, I will. Like, I’ll come back and give it another go, but I really hope I get to see more. Uh. About like I, I would enjoy watching this Superman interact with other people, but I really just want to see a movie about Superman.
I wanna see this Superman with a with with our touch, Batman.
That would be the most astonishing tonal whiplash.
Yeah. It’s gonna be like gloomy boy and sunshine boyfriend. It’s gonna.
Well, we already know that Lobos Green Litton going ahead. So yeah, this Superman and.
Be so great. Ohh God, just imagining a hot mess from Lobo.
I mean. Yeah, but I’m also. There’s a part of me that kind of feels like that’s what Lobo needs to be. But also, I’m not sure he’s, like, getting his own film. I know he’s in Supergirl, but you know.
Well, who knows, I mean. Wait, we’re in spoiler section yet.
I was gonna say should we move into spoiler section just briefly.
So that does mean changing the bulb. Yes, yes. It’s up now, OK. Right. So. How do we feel about that? And?
Yeah, escape the chat if you don’t want spoilers.
True. Yeah. Yeah. Now, now is your time to exit and.
We don’t. We’re getting anything. This is what happens with all these films nowadays. It’s like well. You’ve just enjoyed that movie. I know we’re gonna do a.
Little bit of taste or maybe something?
Else you know, I like the fact that they chose not to to follow the forgotten the the way of Marvel doing it. Of yeah, doing it as a post credit sequence or anything, it was like. No, no, we’re gonna put it in the act. So.
Yep, thought that was nice. So yes, to anyone who hasn’t ******** off yet. Yeah. What did we think of Australia’s own Milly Alcock as the Super Party girl?
Yeah, I was surprised to.
See Supergirl appear in the movie I. One thing that escaped me before watching this, but.
It’s a. It’s a. It’s a bold.
Choice to introduce that character in that particular way.
A A party girl? Supergirl.
Only cause she was going to a planet with a red sun.
But how did she get off the planet?
Just cause she she she’s red sun so she can get drunk. But I’m guessing that.
Too too many Buckleys aren’t there.
Maybe she could still fly. Yeah, so interesting idea that I’ve they’ve said that a lot of the Supergirl film is gonna be vaguely based on the Supergirl woman of tomorrow. I think it’s called OK, which is an interesting idea that Supergirl. Unlike Superman, who came as a baby.
And therefore, you know it has been raised by lovely parents and stuff like that. Supergirl is dealing with some pretty ******* serious promo.
She, you know, saw her family and planet. Die has seen everybody that she knows and loves die. And you know, then spent. God only knows how long in a, you know, intergalactic tube.
And yeah, is having not a great time of it and suddenly doesn’t really know how to cope with, you know, superpowers and **** like that. Meanwhile, you got Clarke, who has been growing up with this, so it has a much better grounded understanding of it. I like that idea.
Yeah, I would watch it. Yep.
And see, that’s a really interesting thing because you got that whole Superman movie with all those other characters and the different things that went on, and yet you’ve built the little world around that. See, This is why I kind of went like ohh Superman. I’m not sure about that movie. Why couldn’t have just been about Superman? Doesn’t he have his own trauma? Wasn’t all of his own traumas enough? You know, having to deal with? He didn’t need everyone else’s. Stuff. Yeah. Does that make sense?
OK, so one of the big things that. Jimmy’z sexual prowess is what saves the day.
But also Jimmy’z willingness to, like, use a woman.
I know, I know. Right. Like, you know, jimmy’z terrible ****, boy. Attitude saves the day.
I think you’re missing the real hero of the story, and that’s Eve, Tess Markham.
Sure, she’s the one that took all of those photos with all of the crucial information. Mm-hmm.
Are you saying that selfies and influences do serve a purpose in life?
Yeah, I wanna see the movie with Eve Tessmacher and Madison from Marvel.
Talk about crisis on infinite Earths.
I I do love that Miss Tessmacher is actually the person who has saved. Men, both films, she’s also the one that saves him in the 1970.
Well, yeah. There’s a nice little.
Yeah, that was a nice little aside.
Yeah. Out of curiosity, I know that we’re in spoilers now, since how do we feel about the the Ultraman edition? Hmm yeah, a little bit like, oh, you’ve got to read it coming a mile off. But also I feel.
Yeah, it suffered the the film suffered from a little bit of like, no, no, the real danger is lex, why do you need these other goons? Slash other things to create false danger, I mean. Part of the malevolence and the the great thing is that Leslie is just a man. He’s just a 100% sociopath focused on trying to rid the world of Superman through nefarious means.
But Lex is always going to need something that can.
Yeah, but he he doesn’t really.
Do that as much as I know from what I see. Like he doesn’t have to go toe to toe because he is out thinking Superman.
Which? I mean that that is the biggest Superman four thing like that is literally like cloning Superman from a strand of his hair is literally the plot of Superman 4.
Yeah, but that guy is nuclear man, and he has nails that he can grow.
And they had to throw the the the genetic mixture into the sun to make it strong enough to fight Superman because.
Yes. Yeah, because it’s real. It’s really. Easy to throw something to the sun as you or I know with some stuff in the sun all the time. It’s not like it would. We could throw something today and it would take years. Decades probably 2 lifetimes.
Said you. I really loved how you’re. Like injecting like scientific logic into a movie about an alien who gets his power from the sun and who can. Client is basically invincible.
Yeah. Yeah. So, so science, totally.
Peter, you know you know nature. You know, nature is weirder than science.
Right. I must admit the whole Ultraman thing I did think for a moment, because Ultraman is also a character from the comics. Who is the Superman of one of the other Earths from the the evil Earth, where everybody’s evil and ultra man is.
Yeah. Is it bad to say? Do they all have good teeth?
I don’t know. It’s what is it? It’s Ultraman, and the Batman is called owl Man. And there’s like.
Mm-hmm. One of those crises of some kind of other Earth things. But yeah, so.
When we’re when we’re bankrupting ideas, we’ll just come back to evil twin.
Yeah, it’s like that. Knock off Justice League one.
Yeah, yeah. Like person. Like there. There have been lots of evil supermans. I was half expecting that and they may have even even gone like a bizarro or something like that, you know. Yeah, it was a bit.
Yes, I I I’ll say too. Yes. Freddy kangaroo. I agree with that too. They spent a little bit of time setting up the fact that there was an anti Proton river that was going into a black hole. You can’t touch it or you’ll die.
OK, that bugged me. That bugged me only because they had, like, set it up as a rule in the universe. Like you can’t touch the Proton River and then everyone touches the Proton River.
And then, like, you’re in the river.
Proton ring and what does it look like, bismuth?
It’s none of your business.
Ohh, let’s get down to business. Yeah, like there are so many moments in it that lean hard into the ******* like the silly, you know? Yes, we’re swimming in a antiproton stream, heading towards a black hole and we’re being sucked into it and he can blow himself backwards. OK, cool.
Yeah, he’s blowing at air, though. There’s nothing. There’s nothing there. To push off like.
If if it was signs, it would just suck the air out.
But don’t you? Yeah. Look, I mean, this is the.
Thing you you love some of the silliness, like when he’s like oh, it’s silly. And I’m like, yeah, but it’s also bad, silly. Like the worst silly.
Yeah, it’s. It’s almost like Joel Schumacher. Batman, silly.
I wouldn’t go that far. Because that’s pretty silly.
But it’s it’s weird. They have stuff like that and then is it Metamorpho? Is that the guy? Yeah. Yeah. And they’re like, oh, you need to pay to like, you need to feel empathy for Metamorpho because his sons over there. And I’m like, why don’t give a.
Like, is that an alien baby? I don’t care. You’ve just established you’re willing to.
That. Offer generally people do care about their babies. Like I’ll I’ll give them that one.
And somebody was like, you have to do this legal thing or I’m going to shoot your baby then that that it might give me a moral.
The childless Deon does not care. Yeah.
Quandary. I mean, sure, but I. Mean look, the rest of it.
I mean, when one of those portals was collapsing about five times.
Oh wait, hang on. That was a really good question. Did they end up saving all the people that were put in?
That jail, after the thing collapsed.
Yes, yes, they all came out at the end. Down. Yeah, they. Did. Yeah. You were party girl. Who? Yeah.
See. By that stage I was like.
Yeah, I had. I was snoring quite loudly.
Yeah, I did say something and I do think it is kind of cool that like James Gunn has a thing where he can. Find a a black character and a great actor. Pair them together and turn them into the kind of the ******. Of the film. Yeah. You know, did it with dead shot. Dead shot. Hang on, Idris Elba.
Suicides head hunter no Deadshot was in the first one, but then it was.
Yeah, that was Will Smith. But wasn’t it Idris Elba in the second one?
No, but but in the sequel. In the other character that.
Yeah, it was a different one.
It was like the Yondu like arrow thing from Guardians of the Galaxy where he just whistles the arrow to kill everyone.
Yeah, it was exactly the same.
Yeah, the same kind of beat and this is the thing we got. We got exactly what we.
Got we wanted, which was a James Gunn film.
Yeah. It’s like we have a red laser. That’s running around the screen right now I’m like.
Yeah. Yeah, cool. Yeah, I mean that. That was cool because I at least understood. Then after that fight scene, I was like, oh, that’s why he’s terrific.
Is he, though, because he didn’t explain that he was super smart. He just told people he was super smart. And you know from from every experience I’ve ever had when someone comes and says I’m smart, I go.
He was able to understand like Pocket Universe generator and try and *******, you know, retrofit it and stuff. I thought that sounded pretty smart.
Yes, but took the time to explain to the scientists who’d been working with it for a long, long time, like, shut up. I’m doing science.
I’m terrific. It’s a stupid name.
It was like that bit in the last. Pitch meeting was like we have to do show, don’t tell. So we’re gonna show people. Telling you.
Quick question for the DC people and feel free in the chat too to to let me know. OK, the engineer, is that a good character, bad character like in? The sense that she never would have done it.
Great, totally useless. Don’t care about nano person.
Yeah, that was one of the ones that I did think was a weird choice because. Like there are a lot of DC characters that are out there in the world, and she’s definitely a DC character has. Existed for a.
Long time. I’ve never ******* heard of her.
But you know that James Gunn’s always gonna pick the weird ones.
Yeah, the Kaiju beast. Is that something that was already established or was that just kind of like merchandising opportunity?
I think it’s just the thing, it’s just the.
Thing that was that was just we we need.
Yeah. A big monster? Yeah, a merchandising opportunity? Sure.
Yeah, I mean, I thought the the, the no brainer for the this was like Superman and his. Dog. Yeah, like that’s just the no brainer.
Yeah, and I. Mean everybody’s gotta cost everybody that has a little white dog has a. Costume for Halloween.
What are we gonna see on the toy line? Is it gonna be like Clark and Lois Lane? And you know Pimp Daddy, Jimmy Olsen with his black book full of ex girlfriends?
All right, all right, all right, yeah. Is any anymore for Superman anymore? Things no good.
Do you think people should? Watch it, yeah.
Yeah, I mean.
I I do, I think they should watch it. I.
I think you should also check out the the press junket stuff on social media because it’s quite entertaining.
Yeah. One thing I think I had was should people see it in the cinema and I was like no, not necessarily require it. I don’t think anything in the.
There. Apart from a couple of scenes which were just establishing kind of shots, I don’t think there was it. There wasn’t anything so great like, you know, one of the scenes that I remember from Superman that I always really loved is that idea that Superman can fly above the earth and then kind of have that beautiful sun come up from behind. And there’s a glistening, you know, turn over. There wasn’t any of that for me.
I was like there were no, I I wouldn’t say there’s any, like beauty shots.
Yeah, it was kind of one of those establishing things that I know of. Superman is that Superman is for the planet Earth. He’s not like he. He lives in America, but he’s he’s for everyone. And I really feel that the idea of Superman standing guard.
In orbit, looking at the earth, trying to find trouble that he can stop is a foundational aspect and to not say it was a little bit disappointing even though he was doing it.
Yeah, yeah. Look, even though I only gave it a 65, I would still say see it in the cinema.
Yeah. Yeah. And I I would say go on, sit in the cinema. Pete, where are you at with?
I wouldn’t say that it must be seen in the cinema, but it’s a fun watch for if you want to go, you know, get a popcorn and some lollies and and. Have you know?
Yeah. And A and an absolutely abysmally sized chop top.
Ohh, they’re getting smaller, they’re getting smaller.
You know who you are. So far, it’s still the the Dendy and Newtown still does reasonably sized.
Ohh, they’re bank bangers.
Yeah. And the palace in in Leichhardt. Powerful, powerful ******* chop tops. I can’t have anymore cause I might. Be sick as a dog. Ohh dear.
So next week some people are going to see a a little movie about a fantastic foursome.
Yeah. Fantastic foreskin.
In Fortnite, if you play Fortnite, yeah.
Yeah, there’s a fantastic foreskin.
Great. Well done marketing director.
Well done, marketing people. Maybe read your copy out loud.
I’m trying to decide. I’m trying to decide if I treat myself to gold class viewing and go and see the Fantastic Four next week before the weekend. What do you think I should do?
I mean, I think that sounds like a a lovely idea. Go and see it in, you know, high class, comfy seats have some food. Yeah, you.
Know is there this? Will also potentially mean that we have to do the show on Wednesday. Next week, well. Is that true? Yes.
Yeah. Or we can stick to the schedule.
That has been advertised and do the old guard too.
But I’ve heard it’s done.
Just I I won’t be watching that regardless. So.
Do we do we cancel next week’s show and do?
After and then just do Fantastic Four.
All technically speaking, we do fall within the bounds of July. Yeah, because there are there are 123455.
We’ve got 5 Tuesdays this July, so we could cancel.
Let us know. Actually, let us.
Next week and do 1 after.
Know the chat the chat can vote and decide. You decide.
Chat do you want us to do the old guard on Wednesday, or do you want us to take a week off? And do fantastic for the week after.
Oh yeah, and that will give you the the weight to be able to watch it and.
Do the homework, as it were exactly, and we gotta remember in this stream, because there is a delay that we even though we’re talking, we need to wait for them to catch up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
We’ve got 2F fours got 2F fours.
That that may be from the conversation. Of 30 seconds ago. The delay of everything that’s coming in.
No, I’m gonna count it. I’m gonna count it.
Yeah, yeah, they they need a week to do homework. OK, that’s an interesting point, you know. You know, maybe they will work on doing the 29th, and I’ll just have to adjust the schedule. You. People always making me adjust stuff. What about you, Pete? Are you are you? What’s your?
My votes are not what’s the old guard so.
Do you wanna go on a fantastic?
4 date no Fantastic Four. Do you wanna do it?
Yeah. Do you wanna go on? A Fantastic Four dates.
Let’s go on a Fantastic Four day. That’s my vote. My vote date with Jill.
Well, Dean, I guess you and I are. Gonna go to the.
The screening. Great. So now I have to go with Queenie again.
Yeah. Pete, do we go to IMAX or do we go to gold? Class.
Or choices. Yeah, don’t know.
Big thing we will be going to the the press screening in IMAX, which is very excited. Also share that all of those people who went to the the press press event right and looked like they had a fun time and watched 30 minutes of unconnected clips, which is my perfect version of hell when watching.
The film. Like **** that.
Yeah, but good on those cars are still flying around and doing all that sort of stuff, especially ohh. Forgot what? Sue storms.
Isn’t she heavily pregnant? Yeah. Isn’t she about ready to drop like is?
And Oh my God and still doing the press it’s like.
Damn, I don’t think you’re allowed to fly in the third trimester.
I thought not. Either Can you imagine that? It’s like, why were you born in Guatemala?
Maybe she’s got a cheeky PJ. She’s out here on her PJ. Private jet.
Ohh thank you. Like I’m sorry I don’t know what.
Like. You you in business classes, you know, that’s what poor people. Know about.
Yeah. Wouldn’t you be expecting at this point with that car though, that they do have their own, like, fantastic jet that’s just theirs, that they get flown around it?
They’ve just got a fantastic yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got. Yeah, it’s all fantastic.
OK, Karina. Newborn and she’s a poor.
Karina is now, Sir. See, this is This is why class warfare always wins, because the Poors are fighting amongst themselves, being all the Richard just ******** on us from the. Right. Why do you hate me so, Karina?
We, well, look, you know, I’m. I’m I’m. I’m. I’m interested to see my space dad slash apocalypse dad slash every other dad turn into comic dad. Let’s hope it it works. Yeah yeah. Who can stretch where he needs to see how that goes. OK so.
What’s the results we’re talking about? Are we waiting? We’re waiting. And we’re going to not.
I think we’ll we’ll knock off. Ohh God, let’s knock.
And then we’ll do. We’ll come back on Tuesday the 29th. Is that the what? Is that what we’re agreeing to?
The plan I think that makes sense.
Yeah. OK. So Tuesday the 29th. No old guard next week, adjusted schedule. Tuesday the 29th. It’s going to be lit y’all.
There’s four of us. It’s going to be fantastic.
We are the Fantastic Four. Ohh ****.
Ohh ****, now you gotta figure out which one of you’s gonna be.
Peter is the invisible woman, so if you’re just not.
No, go back to La Rochelle.
I feel like the only stretchy daddy and. Of course the thing.
Oh. I feel like you should just. You should just be. Able. To like lean out of a frame until you disappear off and it’s. Just. Just just put on the background and then like do it from like.
Yeah, until zoom, like races, you.
Recline in the couch and just do it with the microphone. They go. Yeah, yeah. Sure, guys. And then you can’t wait to see the orange. Going for it.
Ohh Wickles playing next week or week after.
Oh, yeah, no. We got two weeks to prepare.
Yeah, two weeks. We’ve got two weeks at the very least. I want to find. Two of those Big Sing punchy.
Oh yeah, rock him. Soccer man. Yeah.
All got time to find a blue shirt. We can. We can.
Do this. Yeah, I’m sure we.
Can do no no more. OK, the rules though. It’s it’s, it’s costuming in two weeks, but no more than 20 bucks.
This. Things like **** this. I don’t want to. OK, done.
There’s our rules. Pete, we’ll we’ll help.
And you you are you having this?
You out because you’re looking uncomfortable.
Peter is gonna come in a green zentai. Suit. So all you gonna see is her face.
Peter is gonna be just off screen.
Time I think we have an emote for that, don’t we?
Yeah, just over there. Yeah. Predicting is asking the question.
What are we all watching?
So, I mean, last night we in terms of watching Wrexham, yeah.
Live we did. We watched people kick the ball around on an actual match.
Got to. Say my. Got to see my favorite Paul Mullen, but because I’m only up to season 3.
Dan said to me and said, which one’s Chris Mullen?
I’m like who we worked out. They’re.
Yeah, well, I was. I was happy that at least we we we got 2 ollies we got Ollie Rathbone and Ollie Palmer and Ollie.
That’s right. Just called up. It’s all melon.
Rathbone he took one to the knee.
******* hope you did. How was it? Honestly, not a great match.
It was a friendly, so yeah. Dan and I were chatting.
Be aggressive, aggressive little bit.
A sucking bit time. Yeah, bit time. Look, you know.
Yeah, yeah. And also I think like I had a ******** behind me who was being a real ******* about the fact that there are a lot of fake football fans there. Because Ohh look at them ******* all these people from Disney FC. What a pack of ********* I’m like, shut the **** **, man. You got 40,000 people on a Tuesday night.
Yeah, on an 11 degree Tuesday night.
Watching seconds off. Yeah. Shut the **** **.
I mean, I got to. I got to have my first experience of going to one of those stadiums and only spending 50 bucks on three drinks. It was. Great. It’s like, wow. I even specifically asked for the cheapest beer.
Can I have the cheapest? Beer. Sure. That’ll be $50, OK.
Didn’t even eat there, did we? No, we. Ate before it just went and it was like what the?
Designed to remove money from people. To be fair, though, it was a very pleasant experience of very easy to get in and. Around and.
Yeah, my first time at Alliant Stadium, my first time watching live sports.
Ball same absolutely. And I would say the ******* sound system there was terrible.
Didn’t have your hearing aids in Quinney.
No, I I. Well, I probably needed that. But like they were doing big, you know things where they had people talking on the screen and and they were, you know, playing games down on the pitch. There is no announcer by the way, but.
Oh yeah, I was very disappointed that Beyoncé was not. The half talent.
Yeah. Bunch of people absorbed.
For. I love that was also weird because it was like, oh, let’s watch kids in zorbs I don’t know, play a game and only thing that adults wanted is to watch them crush into each other and bounce off like it was just like, just violence. And that’s what we missing from the game. There wasn’t enough aggressive.
Every time someone took a tumble it. It’s like you hit me. I’m like, oh, this.
I mean, it’s soccer, you know, it’s kind of what it’s for.
But I did start to get a little bit sick of them always doing the same maneuver. It was like, OK, going down. That’s the pitch 23 to 19 to enter the bit. But OK, yeah, we we know what. You’re doing, yeah.
Yeah, well, you know, Quinney, as I said, if I have to explain the offside. To you.
I don’t think there was a seat in that stadium that.
Like, I couldn’t believe like how? Open it all was. And so easy to see the field like I was. I was very impressed and the lights were amazing. Like it was very well lit.
Yeah, like I’m sure a lot of people in the chat that are like.
You ******* morons. I’m like, I’m sorry, but this is the first time I’ve been in the stadium to watch sport like I was impressed.
Like I can see that they put a lot of time and money and effort into.
Yeah, I’m like. Ohh well I I.
You know, making the game as visible as possible.
I can see where people go to stadiums to watch sport like.
Yeah, I was able to follow the whole so I could match and see where things were going and everything like that. Not just by watching the big screen, yeah.
Can’t wait till. It’s done in like you know, that’s enough for me. I’ll go again in another 40 years.
Ambitious. You can live too.
You’re gonna be alive in 40. Years. Yeah, not no shame, but.
Yeah, I mean, are any of?
This well, if I could die tomorrow. I would but.
Wait, wait. I have to wait until October, though, because I’m going to resting.
And then you can then you.
They you can’t explain the sports balls to me, but I will go and watch wrestling. I’m so excited. ******* live wrestling, by the way. October, we’re only reviewing wrestling shows.
You know what? I’m down for it.
Have we done glow before? Have we reviewed the?
I don’t think we can, yeah.
No, but we should have, we.
No, we haven’t done heels, OK?
Is this wait? You’re right. What? What?
Yeah, I’m. I’m organising our October. We’re only doing wrestling shows.
OK, you heard it here first. It’s it’s, it’s WrestleMania. I thought it’s it’s spooktober. Aren’t we supposed to be doing?
Be nice for a change. You know something different.
Octo God Toba, thank you. Pretty kanga.
Ohh, that’s like UFC. It’s like KFC that’s KFC.
The squared circle. It’s the same thing.
Yeah. I’m what’s the? What’s it fighting with my family? There’s a.
Yes, yes, with ******* Florence Pugh.
Yeah. Yeah. See, there’s there’s.
*** **** page. Like, let’s go. We can do a wrestling.
I think we have. To go down Taylor, I’m down for it.
One yeah, OK. I love it. Thanks. It’s been a long a long and and nice chat. Thank you everyone. We’ve been here too long. We need to go. We yeah.
Ohh it has been a long time.
We need to go now. Yeah. Weird. Uh. Whoops. Sorry guys. Thanks. Hanging in on the Wednesday night and good to see all of You Beautiful people. In here, like the people I’m looking at, not the people in.
The chat we. Don’t care about that, right? You guys are my Fantastic Four or three. Three. Fantastic three. We make a fantastic.
Anyway, work on your cosplay.
Lots of work to do, and I know I’m. Going to do it the night before.
I’m just gonna. I gotta get to like, is it? Should I? Should I put what’s what’s good for? Whitening hairs, glue stick or something? It’s the sides there.
Like a true cosplayer. Baby, you don’t need any help.
Perfect. I’ll just have a few more stressful weeks at. Work and then that’ll be fine.
Thanks all. We’re gonna go now.
Thanks everybody. Goodnight.
