Lydia and Rudy join Matzpen member Ehud Ein-Gil for a  discussion on trade unionism within the Israeli state. We discuss Ehud's  experiences around the founding of Koach LaOvdim as a new sort of  union, the history and structure of the Histadrut and how that has  affected trade unionism inside the '48 borders, his experience  organizing bus drivers, the intermediate status of the Mizraim Jews in  Israeli society, the effects of the Arab Spring on Israel, his thoughts on religion and secularism,  and his outlook about finding new identity for the six million Hebrews living in historic Palestine.