Trevor Magill is the Northern Ireland Managing Director of the Musgrave Group, one of Ireland's biggest and longest-established family businesses. It's a huge retail, wholesale, and food service business, servicing around 7 million customers weekly and boasting a turnover exceeding €5 billion.

As the company approaches its 150th anniversary, Trevor and Jim delve into how this seventh-generation family business has thrived in the competitive, fast-moving consumer goods (FMCG) sector.

A cornerstone of their success is the unique independent retail partnership model used for brands like SuperValu, Centra, and Mace across Northern Ireland. McIll explains that this partnership allows independent owners to support their local communities and ensures the company avoids becoming "far too corporate".

The discussion covers strategic evolutions, including the development of market-leading private brands like Frank and Honest coffee and the continuous focus on value and convenience for the modern consumer. He also highlights the importance of sourcing 70-75% of their range on the island and details the group's long-term commitment to community initiatives, such as its 25-year relationship with Action Cancer. He shares personal career lessons, emphasising the necessity of strong people, core values, and fulfilling commitments in business.

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This episode of Trading Up Unpacked digs deep into the controversial "Spend Now, Pay Later" Budget, described as the "Klarna" budget, focusing on increased spending and backloaded taxation. Jim Fitzpatrick and Richard Ramsey explore the fiscal strategy of freezing tax thresholds, which functions as a hefty stealth tax, dragging more people into higher payment bands. Economists criticised the measures, noting that the OBR stated none of the proposals would have a material impact on economic growth.

We discuss how complex tax "cliff edges," such as the punishing 62% marginal tax rate faced by some earning over £100,000, serve as a "tax on ambition," disincentivising work and career progression. This environment may fuel a concerning demographic trend: net emigration. Over 109,000 more UK citizens left the country than arrived, three-quarters of whom were under the age of 35.

The conversation turns to the Northern Ireland housing crisis, where residential property prices have surged by 45% since 2020, yet house building levels remain critically low. We examine how the "no water charges" policy, while politically popular, starves infrastructure of funding, contributing to the severe housing shortage and exploding private sector rents. Finally, we analyse Northern Ireland's peculiar and antiquated licensing laws, highlighting anti-competitive behaviour and how it creates strange outcomes such as the bizarre case of a new Lidl supermarket in Dundonald that's opening an on-site pub.

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Join Jim Fitzpatrick as he welcomes former professional cricket player and Ireland International, Andrew Patterson. Andrew shares his incredible journey of dedication and commitment in elite sport, tragically interrupted when a stumble revealed a hateful underlying condition: Hereditary Spastic Paraplegia (HSP). Told he would spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair, Andrew refused to accept this fate, choosing hard, grinding progress and resilience instead. He details the financial and personal struggles involved in undergoing a radical, life-altering operation in the United States. Andrew now leverages his experiences—which include learning new pathways to walk again through intense rehab—to inspire business leaders and students. Discover his core philosophy based on three pillars: perspective, response, and purpose and his inspiring way of emphasising how developing soft skills and embracing incremental change are crucial for long-term success, prioritising health, and transforming adversity into opportunity.

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Welcome to Trading Up Unpacked, the business podcast from the Irish News and EY. Hosts Jim Fitzpatrick and Richard Ramsey dig deep into the pressing issues of the day. They scrutinise the Northern Ireland economy, which recorded its 10th monthly decline in activity, noting that the low 2.4% unemployment rate is offset by the UK's highest levels of economically inactive workers. The conversation pivots to UK fiscal chaos, detailing the U-turning Chancellor and the failure to address welfare reform, leading to market-damaging instability. Jim and Richard analyze the proposed "smorgasbord" of stealth taxes, like freezing income tax thresholds and potential changes to salary sacrifice schemes. Internationally, they discuss Donald Trump’s tariff reversals driven by US inflation. They conclude by examining global trade interconnectedness, highlighted by China’s tomato paste surplus following forced labor allegations, and the growing pressure on Ireland’s defense spending and geopolitical stance.

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Dive into the massive challenges facing the UK economy with Rupert Soames, Chair of the CBI. Known for running difficult and massive companies like Serco and Aggreko, he describes his "horrible habit of walking towards gunfire" when it comes to choosing which jobs to take. He recounts his bold turnaround strategy: telling employees to “bring out your dead” to fix underlying issues and win back trust. His plucky attitude to such challenges may be reflective of his family background, as a grandson of Winston Churchill. But even this distinguished heritage comes without its own issues to navigate.

With the discussion examining the big economic picture, he's mindful that the UK’s GDP per capita has effectively flatlined since 2010, lagging far behind the US. He addresses the staggering national debt accrued since COVID, noting that interest payments on government debt have dramatically soared. He suggests that the growing maturity of AI could be the key to unlocking improved quality and reduced costs in public services. He also weighs in on tax burdens on businesses and celebrates the resilience of ambitious small and medium-sized enterprises in Northern Ireland. He emphasises that the UK needs "a bit of bloody ambition" to secure the kind of growth that would transform the economy, public services and the general mood.

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In this episode of Trading Up Unpacked, Jim and Richard dig deep into the economy and global politics. Northern Ireland is enjoying record pay increases, with annual earnings up 8.1%. We analyse whether this rise translates to real-term gains after years of wage stagnation (which averaged -0.1% over a decade) and how this impacts public and private sector workers.

Locally, we examine Stormont's continued paralysis as the proposed $20 billion gold mine in County Tyrone remains stalled, sending a poor message to international investors about barriers to development. Globally, we discuss China's strategic leveraging of rare earth metals in trade negotiations. Finally, a V-Dem Institute report reveals the alarming decline of democracy worldwide—now back to 1985 levels—and we connect this political disillusionment directly to decades of economic stagnation and the rise of autocracy.

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Join Sandra Corkin and her son Scott of Oasis Travel, an independent family business that has defied the odds in the travel industry. They share how they survived intense competition, the rise of the internet, and the devastating impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, maintaining a substantial turnover now touching £40 million. Celebrating 40 years of growth, Oasis Travel shifted its focus from low-margin bookings to high-end travel (cruise and luxury packages) where staff expertise adds maximum value. Learn how the new generation is blending personalised, one-to-one service with the right tech, including a new customer app, to ensure the business's bright future.

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In this Unpacked episode Jim Fitzpatrick and Richard Ramsey examine how small business can survive in today's big, bad world. The global order has "changed utterly" to one of disorder, making geopolitics a mainstream boardroom issue for businesses of all sizes. This uncertainty, fuelled by rising protectionism and US policies like the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), is directly impacting the bottom line: 47% of UK listed companies recently blamed geopolitical shifts for issuing profit warnings. While the EU struggles to define a unified strategy between the US and China, the UK-EU relationship reset remains slow. Critical agreements, such as the SPS deal impacting the Windsor Framework, may not be in place until 2027. Locally, Northern Ireland faces severe skill shortages exacerbated by high economic inactivity, including 117,000 long-term sick. Furthermore, the latest business activity Growth Tracker (PMI) indicates a more contraction.

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Stephen McKeown grew up in the Glens of Antrim and developed his engineering skills as an "volunteer" mechanic in his Dad's car workshop. He now heads a Digital Centre of Excellence for Fortune 100 company Allstate and this core part of the business just happens to be located in Belfast. The insurance giant came to Northern Ireland in the aftermath of the Good Friday Agreement with the modest ambition of creating 50 jobs. It now employs around 1700 in its European operations and Belfast has transformed from outpost to core hub. Stephen takes us through his early career: which spans a PhD from Queen's; helping build Ireland’s "bad bank" (NAMA) during the financial crisis; and bootstrapping successful tech startups. He discusses the revolutionary shift to a "product mindset" at Allstate with work focused on problem-solving and customer outcomes, a cultural change that led Allstate to win the prestigious Tony Hsieh Award. What's great is that Stephen still manages to balance global leadership with his volunteer role as a mechanic on the local Cushendall lifeboat. This episode is a masterclass in driving change and seizing opportunity in the evolving tech ecosystem; a lesson in how geography is no barrier to being at the centre of global organisations; and a reminder that a good and healthy workplace culture is vital to success.

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This week it's Trading Up Unpacked with Jim Fitzpatrick and Professor Richard Ramsey digging deep into the nature of north south business and economics in Ireland. From waves of desperate weight-loss drug hunters flooding into Newry; to the growing number of companies in Northern Ireland that are owned in the Republic; to the increasing trade and tourism figures; Jim and Richard explain and explore the underlying forces at work. They also examine revived plans for Northern Ireland to harmonise its business tax rate with the Republic. Wishful thinking or a good idea? Jim and Richard argue it out.

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