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About Andrew Stickel: Andrew Stickel is a marketing strategist, author, and the Owner and Chief Marketing Officer of SMB Team and Co-Founder of Social Firestarter, LLC, specializing in helping lawyers grow their firms through innovative digital marketing strategies. With over a decade of experience, he has worked with hundreds of law firms, generating thousands of leads and millions in revenue. He is also the co-host of The Law Firm Growth Acceleration Podcast alongside Bill Hauser, where they share expert strategies to help lawyers build highly profitable, self-sustaining practices. A firm believer in radical responsibility, Andrew teaches lawyers how to stand out using psychology-driven marketing, social media strategies, and branding techniques beyond traditional methods.

In this episode, Ted and Andrew Stickel discuss:

• How unexpected career shifts can lead to success
• Understanding and articulating client problems
• How taking full ownership leads to better results
• The role of psychology in marketing

Key Takeaways:

• Articulating a client's problem better than they can themselves instantly builds trust, positioning you as the expert who truly understands their challenges and needs.
• Taking full responsibility for client outcomes shifts your business approach from blaming external factors to proactively improving your systems, messaging, and overall service delivery.
• Creating engaging content works best when it resonates emotionally with the audience, making them feel understood rather than feeling like they are being sold to.
• Business growth happens naturally when you stop focusing on surface-level issues, dig deeper into the real problems holding you back, and implement strategic solutions that address the root cause. 

"Marketing is reacting. Business, in general, is reacting, right? Because if you're just guessing at things, you're going to get stuff wrong all the time." — Andrew Stickel

Connect with Andrew Stickel: 

Website: https://www.andrewstickel.com/ & https://smbteam.com/

Email: [email protected]

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AndrewStickel

Linktree: https://linktr.ee/andrewstickel

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewstickel/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marketingforlawyers

TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@andrew.stickel

Instagram: https://instagram.com/andrew.stickel

The Law Firm Growth Acceleration Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-law-firm-growth-acceleration-podcast/id1777074804

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About Jon Sneider: Jon Sneider is the founder and president of Wild Gravity, a multi-award-winning creative production agency disrupting the advertising industry. A veteran marketing executive, Sneider has led global campaigns for brands like L.L.Bean, Windows, and Redfin, where he experienced firsthand the inefficiencies of traditional agencies. Determined to create a faster, more cost-effective approach, he built Wild Gravity to streamline creative services, production, post-production, and CGI under one roof. His upcoming book, Hacking Advertising, provides a blueprint for brands to bypass the outdated agency model and produce world-class ads without unnecessary costs and delays. Today, Sneider and his team work with industry giants like Amazon, Microsoft, Hasbro, and the NBA, proving that great advertising doesn’t have to be slow, expensive, or complicated.

In this episode, Ted and Jon Sneider discuss:

• Evolution of advertising models and the inefficiencies of traditional agencies
• Role of creative production agencies in delivering faster, more cost-effective ad campaigns
• Importance of five key advertising metrics in measuring campaign success
• Strategies for businesses of all sizes to streamline ad creation without sacrificing quality

Key Takeaways:

• Many traditional advertising agencies operate inefficiently by outsourcing production, leading to long timelines and high costs, whereas companies like Wild Gravity consolidate all services under one roof to speed up the process and lower expenses.
• The most successful advertisements score highly across the "Five Magic Metrics"—breakthrough, brand/product recall, message recall, likability, and purchase intent—ensuring they are not just memorable but also drive actual business results.
• Large enterprises like Microsoft are increasingly moving away from legacy agency models in favor of more agile creative production studios that can deliver high-quality content in weeks rather than months.
• Businesses looking to optimize their advertising strategy should consider building an internal creative team, eliminating unnecessary agency services like strategy and focus group testing, and shifting toward a direct-to-production approach for faster and more effective content creation. 

"Instead of focus group testing, the best focus group is the market—you can see how the market responds." — Jon Sneider

Connect with Jon Sneider: 

Website: https://www.wildgravity.net/

Book: Hacking Advertising: https://hackingadvertising.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sneider/

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About Jeremy Corray: Jeremy is an Emmy and Golden Gavel-winning producer who has been creating commercials and digital video content strategies for over 20 years for Fortune 500 companies and law firms across the country. As a digital content creator, he has extensive experience in producing branded entertainment, digital distribution, community management, and consumer licensing. Currently serving as Executive Vice President at Coolfire Studios, he leads campaigns that drive targeted audiences to interact with branded content in meaningful ways—boosting traffic and accelerating conversions.

In this episode, Ted and Jeremy Corray discuss:

• Content marketing as a powerful tool for audience engagement
• Authenticity and personality as key factors in branding
• Video storytelling as a way to build trust and credibility
• Evolving strategies for standing out in competitive industries

Key Takeaways:

• Creative, personality-driven content can make businesses more relatable by using engaging formats like casual discussions, food shows, or storytelling-based video series to break through traditional marketing noise and build stronger audience connections.
• A well-executed content strategy can establish authority and open unexpected opportunities, where niche content can evolve into larger speaking engagements, media features, and brand recognition that extends far beyond initial expectations.
• Many businesses rely too heavily on traditional ads without creating genuine engagement, but blending education, entertainment, and personal storytelling into marketing strategies helps connect with audiences on a deeper level.
• Investing in high-quality video content is crucial for standing out in increasingly competitive industries, especially as larger or out-of-market firms enter new spaces, making creative and high-production storytelling a key advantage. 

"So how do you get attention in a world where no one wakes up and says, 'I can't wait to watch any lawyer commercials. Where are they at? Give them to me, right? I want them, right?' You've got to build a little bit of trust, build a little credibility before you start talking." — Jeremy Corray

Connect with Jeremy Corray: 

Website: https://coolfire.com/lawstars/

Email: [email protected]

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-corray-027b8027/

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About Carl Downey: Carl Downey is a Fractional Chief Marketing Officer (CMO) and founder of Complete Law Marketing (CLM), specializing in legal marketing. With over 20 years of experience, he helps law firms optimize marketing strategies, improve lead generation, and drive revenue growth. His expertise spans digital and traditional advertising, including SEO, PPC, social media, TV, radio, and billboards. By partnering with CLM, firms gain a seasoned strategist who ensures marketing investments are effective and measurable, allowing lawyers to focus on their practice while he handles the complexities of advertising and agency management.

In this episode, Ted and Carl Downey discuss:

• The value of a fractional CMO for law firms
• Managing and optimizing marketing agencies
• Effective digital and traditional legal marketing strategies
• Using data and KPIs to drive better marketing decisions

Key Takeaways:

• Many law firms struggle to measure their marketing effectiveness, but by extracting data from CRMs and analyzing it in a structured way, they can identify which channels are generating valuable cases and which are draining their budgets.
• Establishing a strong niche and refining brand messaging, like positioning a firm around child welfare law, not only increases credibility and visibility but also attracts higher-value clients willing to pay premium rates.
• While often overlooked in legal marketing, social media has proven to be a powerful client acquisition tool, with some firms generating 20-30% of their cases purely through Instagram and other platforms.
• With so many marketing agencies overpromising and underdelivering, law firms must take a proactive approach by vetting potential partners, demanding client references, and continuously monitoring performance to ensure accountability. 

"Most law firms are doing the spray-and-pray approach of marketing—they see something that they heard was working for somebody else, try it, spend money on it… and often find success, but don’t know why. Since they don’t know why, they can’t strategically place more marketing dollars in a particular category." — Carl Downey

Connect with Carl Downey: 

Website: http://www.completelawmarketing.com/

Email: [email protected]

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carldowney/

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About Andrew Orlander: Andrew Orlander is one of the founding partners at Razor Rank, a full service digital marketing agency. He is a frequent speaker at MTMP and PILMMA conferences. He has extensive knowledge in technical SEO and Google Ads advertising for law firms.

In this episode, Ted and Andrew Orlander discuss:

• The importance of attribution in digital marketing
• Optimizing Google Ads for law firms
• The role of AI in PPC performance
• Challenges in legal marketing data integration

Key Takeaways:

• Most law firms unknowingly waste a significant portion of their Google Ads budget because they rely on basic conversion tracking that treats all phone calls, form submissions, and chats as valuable leads, even though many do not turn into signed cases.
• Full Circle Attribution is a system that allows law firms to send real-time case outcome data back to Google, enabling the platform’s AI to refine targeting and deliver higher-quality leads at a lower cost.
• One law firm using Full Circle Attribution was able to scale its Google Ads spend from $80,000 to $890,000 per month while simultaneously reducing its cost per acquisition by nearly 50%, proving that better data leads to better ad performance.
• Despite the massive benefits of optimizing for cost per acquisition instead of cost per lead, only about 1% of law firms are implementing this approach correctly, meaning most firms are missing out on substantial growth and cost savings. 

"Google is just trying to do the best they can based on the information you're giving them. If you know how to give them the right information, you will be shocked at how well you can do." — Andrew Orlander

Connect with Andrew Orlander: 

Website: https://razorrank.com/

Email: [email protected]

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-orlander-6b66b05/

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Ideas or guests for the show: [email protected] 

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About Shamil Shamilov: Shamil Shamilov is the founder of dNovo Group, a digital marketing agency specializing in online marketing solutions for law firms, medical clinics, home improvement companies, and other service businesses in North America. With 13 years of digital marketing under his belt, Shamil understands that every industry and business requires an individual approach. As such, he works closely with his clients to understand the intricacies of their businesses and provide them with a personalized digital marketing strategy that includes SEO, PPC, web design, content, and much more.

In this episode, Ted and Shamil Shamilov discuss:

• Challenges businesses face in converting leads into paying clients
• Strategies for optimizing websites for performance and SEO
• Transparency and trust in client-agency relationships
• The evolving role of AI and automation in digital marketing

Key Takeaways:

• Businesses often lose potential clients not because of poor marketing but due to weak intake and follow-up processes, making it crucial to respond quickly and persistently across multiple channels.
• Pre-built website templates may seem convenient, but they often slow down site performance and hurt SEO rankings, which is why custom-built WordPress sites with clean code are a far superior long-term solution.
• Locking clients into long-term contracts may provide short-term security, but operating on a month-to-month model forces marketing agencies to consistently deliver results and build trust through accountability.
• Many businesses underestimate the power of online reputation management, but proactively collecting positive reviews and addressing negative ones can significantly improve credibility and lead generation success. 

"It's not about being perfect; it's about continuously doing it right, like a routine. Persistence beats resistance." — Shamil Shamilov

Connect with Shamil Shamilov: 

Website: https://dnovogroup.com/

Email: [email protected]

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dnovo-group-digital-marketing-seo-agency/ & https://www.linkedin.com/in/shamil-shamilov/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dNOVOGroup/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dnovogroup/

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About Charley Mann: Charley Mann is the host of "They Don't Teach This in Law School" and founder of Law Firm Alchemy, providing resources and coaching for law firm growth. Charley has extensive experience in the legal industry, guiding law firm owners to optimize their practices and achieve success. He emphasizes networking, providing value, and maintaining strong client relationships, focusing on both business operations and personal growth. Known for his approachable demeanor and deep industry knowledge, Charley values integrity, transparency, and genuine connections.

In this episode, Ted and Charley Mann discuss:

• How law firm owners can scale their business while avoiding common pitfalls
• Why shifting from lawyer to entrepreneur is essential for success
• The key business skills every law firm owner must master
• The biggest challenges law firm owners face and how to overcome them

Key Takeaways:

• Law firm owners who spend most of their time on legal work should gradually shift to spend at least half their time on business development, as this transition is key to scaling beyond a solo or small firm.
• Focusing too much on weekly revenue fluctuations can create unnecessary stress and short-term decision-making, so law firm owners should shift to tracking monthly and quarterly financial trends for a clearer growth strategy.
• Many law firms struggle with financial instability because they only track cash flow and not total case value, but monitoring both allows for better hiring, budgeting, and long-term planning.
• Hiring entry-level support staff can free up time, but true business leverage comes from bringing in experienced paralegals or associate attorneys who can handle nearly all legal production work, allowing the owner to focus on strategy. 

“A lot of times, they feel like, ‘Oh, I've got this great family atmosphere in the firm.’ But it's not a family—it's a business, and we’ve got to help them change that mindset." — Charley Mann

Connect with Charley Mann: 

Website: https://www.lawfirmalchemy.com/

Email: [email protected]

Show: They Don't Teach This in Law School: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/they-dont-teach-this-in-law-school/id1640557971

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charleymann/

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About Chad Kerby: Chad Kerby is the author of Speak and Get What You Want and host of the podcast by the same name. A seasoned speaker and communication expert, Chad has traveled the globe inspiring business leaders and entrepreneurs to harness the power of effective communication to drive action and achieve their goals. With a career that’s taken him to stages alongside world-renowned figures like former presidents, Dave Ramsey, Ryan Deiss, Simon Sinek, and more, Chad is passionate about teaching others how to communicate with clarity, influence, and purpose. When he’s not speaking or coaching, Chad is devoted to his greatest adventure—his family. He’s married to the love of his life, Cassie and together they have nine amazing children.

In this episode, Ted and Chad Kerby discuss:

• Effective communication in business and leadership
• Common communication mistakes that hinder success
• Strategies for engaging an audience and delivering a powerful message
• How clear messaging can drive business growth and personal success

Key Takeaways:

• Many professionals fall into the "credential trap," where they feel the need to list their accomplishments upfront to gain credibility, but this often backfires because audiences care more about how a speaker can solve their problems than about their background.
• Overloading people with excessive details, also known as the "too much information trap," can cause audiences to disengage because people naturally resist thinking too hard, making it essential to simplify messages and focus on what truly matters to them.
• The most effective communicators prioritize their audience’s needs and interests over their own, structuring their message in a way that immediately captures attention and creates a connection before establishing their own credibility later.
• Business leaders struggling with retention often fail to link company initiatives to team benefits. Shifting focus to highlight employee wins instead of corporate goals can significantly boost engagement and loyalty.

"The ability to speak is not an art. It’s a science, and you can learn it, and you can become good at it and be effective at speaking." — Chad Kerby

Connect with Chad Kerby: 

Website: http://speakandgetwhatyouwant.com/

Email: [email protected]

Book: Speak and Get What You Want: https://www.amazon.com/Speak-Get-What-You-Want/dp/B0D4S5DTFP

Show: Speak And Get What You Want: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/speak-and-get-what-you-want/id1754434603

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadkerby/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/speakandgetwhatyouwant/

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About RJon Robins: RJon Robins is a trailblazing entrepreneur, attorney, and bestselling author who has transformed the lives of thousands of business owners by helping them break the seven-figure barrier. He is the founder of How to Manage a Small Law Firm, a company that has propelled over 600 law firms to achieve remarkable operational and financial success. RJon’s journey from financial hardship to building multiple eight-figure businesses exemplifies his commitment to sustainable growth and empowering others. Known for his unique approach to business and his ability to turn adversity into strength, RJon’s work continues to inspire entrepreneurs to embrace clarity and take bold action.

In this episode, Ted and RJon Robins discuss:

• Scaling small law firms effectively
• Aligning business goals with core values
• Achieving growth by reducing workload
• Optimizing key functions like marketing, sales, and staffing

Key Takeaways:

• Law firm owners can double or even surpass their revenue by delegating essential tasks to specialized hires, such as non-attorney salespeople, who can focus full-time on converting leads and nurturing client relationships.
• Establishing and promoting clear core values ensures alignment with the right clients and staff while minimizing wasted effort on mismatched prospects and unproductive team members.
• Delegating tasks in areas where the owner excels allows for effective training and monitoring of new hires, enabling the business to scale with confidence while maintaining quality.
• Structured processes for marketing, sales, staffing, and financial controls create a foundation for sustainable growth, empowering owners to focus on strategy rather than being consumed by daily operations.

"Most law firm owners could make a lot more money if they would be willing to work less." — RJon Robins

Connect with RJon Robins: 

Website: https://howtomanageasmalllawfirm.com/ & https://profitfirstforlawyers.com/

Email: [email protected]

Book: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0CCSYNQD9

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/HTMASLF/videos

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HowToManageASmallLawFirm

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/howtomanageasmalllawfirm/

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About Wes Lungwitz: Wes Lungwitz is the Managing Partner and Co-Founder at Civille, a digital tech company for law firms. He has worked in the digital space for over a decade, specializing in SEO and content marketing.

In this episode, Ted and Wes Lungwitz discuss:

• The role of ultra-fast, mobile-first websites in driving lead conversions
• Leveraging SEO, content marketing, and local search tools to increase visibility
• The transformative impact of CRM integration on lead management
• Adapting to AI and evolving trends in digital advertising for law firms

Key Takeaways:

• Proprietary website optimization with a mobile-first design and streamlined WordPress framework ensures fast load times, green Google PageSpeed Insights scores, and better search rankings.
• SEO strategies leverage in-depth keyword research and legal-specific content written by professionals like paralegals to meet compliance needs and ensure accuracy beyond what AI-generated content can provide.
• CRM integration bridges gaps in lead management by seamlessly connecting website-generated leads with case management systems, streamlining client acquisition and tracking.
• Active Google Business Profile optimization, including responding to reviews, posting updates, and refining services, helps firms rank higher locally and engage with potential clients effectively. 

"With the emergence of AI content, outsourcing content, and everything else, we just feel like, in the legal space—and I'm sure attorneys feel this way too—you shouldn't just have AI or anybody else writing your content, because there's a lot on the line, and it has to be correct." — Wes Lungwitz

Connect with Wes Lungwitz: 

Website: https://getciville.com/

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getciville

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@getciville

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