In this bonus longform episode of Musically Speaking, I sit down with Maestro John Mason Hodges, music director of the Monroe Symphony Orchestra and founder of the Center for Western Studies, for a wide-ranging conversation about music, meaning, and maturity. Maestro Hodges also teaches for us at the Redeemer School of the Arts.

What happens when we are surrounded by constant sound but slowly lose the ability to listen? Why does so much modern music feel instantly accessible and instantly forgettable? And how can Christians recover the tools needed to love what is truly worth loving?

Drawing on examples from Bach to pop music, we discuss the difference between passive and active listening, the six elements of music, the dangers of both chronological snobbery and cultural laziness, and the importance of musical literacy in forming our affections. From cotton candy versus steak to soda versus fine wine, this episode challenges listeners to expand their musical palate and deepen their engagement.

If you’ve ever wondered how to move beyond “Do I like it?” to “What is it doing, and why?”, this conversation will stretch your ears, your mind, and perhaps even your loves.

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jarrodrichey.substack.com