In This Episode

What happens when a great team is forced to work without a great system? According to Jason Schroeder, the result is predictable—and painful. In this engaging episode of the Systems Simplified podcast, host Adi Klevit sits down with Jason to explore why systems are the ultimate form of respect in the construction industry and how leaders can use them to transform company culture, improve safety, and boost performance.

Jason shares how his early exposure to well-run construction projects revealed the power of systems, and how the industry’s shift away from structured training led him to found Elevate Construction. He and Adi discuss why many organizations resist change, how to separate system flaws from personal blame, and what makes lean thinking so effective when implemented correctly.

Throughout the conversation, Jason emphasizes the role of education, the importance of understanding the “why,” and why real leadership means empowering others through clarity and repeatability. His insights are applicable far beyond construction—any industry can benefit from a systems-first mindset.