When did we stop asking how things work? Rich Greene joins the show to talk about his new podcast Plaintext with Rich,  and we get into something that matters more than any tech: curiosity itself.

Rich spent 20 years in Special Operations before becoming a SANS instructor. Now he's taking complex tech topics and breaking them down for people who need to understand, not just use.

There's a tension building between the tech sector and society at large. AI promises to make everything easier, and maybe it does. But easier can become a trap when it stops us from asking the fundamental questions. When convenience replaces comprehension, we don't just lose technical skill, we lose the ability to think critically about the systems we're building and trusting.

The conversation pushes on a deeper problem: we're creating a generation that believes technology is magic. That you can "vibe code" production software. That prompts replace understanding. And when everything becomes a black box, we've surrendered more than we realize.

Communication and curiosity - those are the skills that matter when the tools change every six months.

Find Plaintext with Rich:

• Spotify
• Apple Podcasts
• Blog on Medium