Beaten down and at the end of his rope, Barrett limped into a rehabilitation facility in 2007.  When Barrett tried to check in, the director of the program told Barrett something that surprised Barrett and caught him off guard.  Tune in to learn what the director told Barrett, and how the director’s comment sent Barrett in a direction that changed his life forever.

Barrett and Jon are by no means big wave surfers (though they enjoy surfing on occasion), but they both know what it is like to get in over your head and be held down for what seems like an eternity.  Rather than see life’s overwhelming challenges as unfortunate, unnecessary or bad luck, Barrett and Jon talk about what it means to experience difficult times as a rite of passage and how enduring two wave hold downs of our own can led to a more meaningful and richer experience of life.

Barrett and Jon are by no means big wave surfers (though they enjoy surfing on occasion), but they both know what it is like to get in over your head and be held down for what seems like an eternity.  Rather than see life’s overwhelming challenges as unfortunate, unnecessary or bad luck, Barrett and Jon talk about what it means to experience difficult times as a rite of passage and how enduring two wave hold downs of our own can led to a more meaningful and richer experience of life.

A former pastor and an ex-con discuss life, religion and spiritual seeking.  

Two friends from two different walks of life fire up the podcast microphones every other week for hard hitting discussions on faith from two very different perspectives.

A former pastor and an ex-con discuss life, religion and spiritual seeking.  

Two friends from two different walks of life fire up the podcast microphones every other week for hard hitting discussions on faith from two very different perspectives.