This is a recap of Trapped, Episodes 17- 22.

Playlist:

0:00 The opening of Trapped Ep. 17: A Poisoned Chalice features archive of Lord Tony Woodley addressing the Lord’s Chamber about the IPP scandal. Our host, Roddy Russell introduces himself as someone whose brother Rob is serving an IPP sentence and the purpose of this episode in which he meets Lord Woodley to find out more about the Private Members’ Bill Lord Woodley is tabling on IPPs.

1:22 Ep 17, Roddy speaks to the former prison chaplain David Kirk Beeden about the public perception of punishment and prisoners. 

3:17 Ep 17, Roddy highlights the lack of will from politicians to make a concerted change and free the remaining IPP prisoners. But in the House of Lords, Tony Woodley tells Roddy they will not give up.

4:15 Trapped Ep 18: Destroyed Hope features Victoria, an IPP prisoner on licence, whose story is at the heart of this episode. 

5:30 In Ep18 we hear from the Prisons and Probation Ombudsman Adrian Usher on his intervention on the risk factors of IPPs and the uncertainly these prisoners face around recall. We hear from Victoria again who tells us she was recalled due to an inability to access her ADHD medication. The Chief Executive of the Howard League for Penal Reform, Andrea Coomber tells us about the continued and serious problem of recall for IPP prisoners.

8:18 Leading criminal barrister Dr Felicity Gerry speaks powerfully in Ep 18 about the mental health problems of IPP prisoners, calling the IPP system ‘state sponsored torture’. 

10:40 In Trapped Episode 19: A Failed Experiment we hear from IPP campaigners who are demonstrating outside parliament. Former IPP prisoner Andrew Morris tells us how it will take another 11 years before all IPP prisoners are finally freed, which he calls ‘so unforgivable’. Deborah Ingram says she is not going to give up until her son Levi is released. Inside Parliament we hear from Lord John Thomas who is campaigning to release all the IPP prisoners. Andrea Coomber says these prisoners need to have the certainty of a release date for their anguish to end.

12:17 In Trapped Episode 20: Duty of Care “Let My People Go”, Roddy speaks to Clara White, who like him has a brother, Thomas White, who is serving an IPP sentence and has never been released. 

13:22 Episode 20, Bishop Mick Flemming from Church on the Street explains how hard IPP campaigning is. 

15:02 In Trapped Episode 21: Totalitarian State we hear from two retired Judges retired judges, Sir John Saunders and Simon Tonking who now regret their role in imposing IPP sentences.

15:52 Former Justice Secretary Alex Chalk KC speaks to Trapped Ep 21 about the moral and political complexity of IPPs, calling imposing the sentence “almost totalitarian”.

17:17 In Trapped Episode 22: Arbitrary Detention, we hear from leading barrister Dr Muin Boase about the landmark legal complaint he’s submitted to the UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention in Sept '25.

18:07 In Trapped Ep 22 we hear from Cherrie Nichol, whose brother Aaron Graham is the longest IPP serving prisoner. She tells us about his release for the second time in June 2025 and how he was recalled back to prison after failing to return to his AP on time.

Production Team:

Presenter: Roddy Russell | @1roddyRussell

Executive Producer: Melissa FitzGerald | @Melissafitzg

Producer: Steve Langridge | @SMLANGERS

Consultant: Hank Rossi

An Ear Worm Production for the Institute of Now

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