Brendan talks with the unassailable Yemi Penn, amazing author, entrepreneur and TedX speaker. The two find that they can laugh at just about anything as they dive into: the line between processing trauma and moving on, determining how much we can  blame on our parents (it's a lot), three critical steps in dealing with trauma, tips for making the first step in any creative project, how to get our sexuality out from under a rock, wise words for survivors of sexual abuse, a third way to look at COVID, and of course, being traumatized by white people doing karaoke.

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