In this episode of Deep Ish, Jake sits down with Trea Allen — creative, former athlete, and founder of the clothing brand On the Other Side — to talk about what happens when you realize you don’t fit the mold you were given.

Trea reflects on growing up in a sports-first world while quietly carrying a love for music, creativity, and self-expression — and the tension that comes with choosing a path that doesn’t make sense to everyone else. Together, they unpack identity, pressure, faith, culture, and the long road from who you were expected to be to who you actually are.

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