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Built and natural environments are often referred to independently, but in reality, comprise two defined parts of one environment. Within the environment, trees and buildings exist, though not always in equal relationships. Where development is proposed, taking precedence over trees, an imbalance between natural and built environments may occur. This could be the result of tree- building conflict often resulting in tree removal. Where architects are creators of the built environment, there is a professional responsibility to consider the wider environmental context impacted by development and also the contributing benefit that trees offer to the environment.
In this episode, Sharon interviews Dr. Gary Wynn, an innovative architect and arboriculturalist. Gary shares his journey of becoming an arboriculturalist and the lack of tree knowledge among architects. He discusses his research on the relationship between trees and buildings and the need for architects to have arboricultural knowledge. Gary also talks about his architectural philosophy, inspired by Frank Lloyd Wright, and the importance of seeing the world as a connected system. He shares a case study of a building he designed near trees and the engineering considerations involved. The conversation ends with a discussion on the tension between the benefits of trees and the challenges they pose in urban areas. Dr. Gary Winn discusses the successful relationship between trees and buildings, highlighting the benefits, challenges, and innovative design solutions. He emphasizes the need for architects and arboriculturists to collaborate and integrate tree considerations into the design process. Dr. Winn shares his research findings, which show that architects often lack knowledge about trees and perceive them as obstacles. However, through workshops and practical exercises, architects can learn to prioritize the tree-building relationship and create innovative designs that incorporate trees. He also discusses the importance of public perception, policy changes, and the role of well-being in the tree-building relationship. Link to the Invisible House Youtube video promo

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In this conversation, Jules Acton discusses her book 'Oaklore' and her journey into the world of nature conservation. She shares her experiences of visiting a nature reserve for the first time and the barriers people may face when trying to engage with nature. Jules emphasizes the importance of creating openings and ways for people to connect with nature. She also talks about her childhood experiences with nature, including a special apple tree in her garden. Jules explores the world of oak trees, including the birds and insects that depend on them. She shares her journey of learning bird songs and the joy of discovering new species. Jules also discusses the cultural significance of oak trees, such as the use of oak gall ink and the celebration of Oak Apple Day. She highlights the importance of awe and shared experiences in connecting with nature. Jules recounts her experiences on a moth night and the beauty of moths. She also explores the world of beetles and the importance of dead wood in supporting their habitats. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the Medusa Oak and the quirks of quercuses. In this part of the conversation, Jules Acton and Sharon discuss various topics related to oak trees and their conservation. They talk about the work of the Woodland Trust and the RSPB in managing and preserving oak trees. They also discuss the concept of veteranization, which involves aging trees prematurely to create habitat for specialized species. They touch on the folklore and magic associated with oak trees, including the myth of summoning the devil by dancing around a certain oak tree. They also explore the mutualistic relationship between trees and fungi, highlighting the importance of fungi in providing nutrients and water to trees. They discuss the challenges of acute oak decline and the need for better decision-making and infrastructure planning to protect and preserve oak trees. They emphasize the importance of creating space for nature and promoting connectivity in urban environments. Jules encourages listeners to join conservation organizations and get involved in the preservation of oak trees and nature in general.

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In this episode, Sharon and Callum discuss the use of AI and technology in the arboriculture industry. Callum explains that AI has been around for decades and has been used in various applications, such as loan applications and predictive text. In the forestry industry, AI has been used for mapping deforestation and monitoring pests and diseases. Callum emphasizes the importance of training AI models to get the desired output and highlights the need for social responsibility in shaping AI. He also shares how he uses AI in his daily work as an arboriculture consultant, including keyword research, report writing, and pricing jobs. In this part of the conversation, Callum discusses the use of Chat GPT, photogrammetry, and virtual reality (VR) in arboriculture. He explains how Chat GPT can assist in generating reports and providing structure, while still requiring human input for analysis and assessment. Callum also highlights the ethical concerns of making GPT publicly accessible. He then delves into the concept of photogrammetry, explaining how it works and the benefits of using apps like Polycam to create 3D models of trees. He emphasizes the importance of hosting these models on online platforms for easy access. Callum then explores the potential of VR and augmented reality (AR) in arboriculture, particularly in training and education. He discusses the immersive experience of VR and its ability to improve knowledge retention. Lastly, Callum touches on the limitations and benefits of using drones for tree surveys, including the accurate mapping of trees in the absence of graphical surveys. Drones equipped with multispectral cameras can be used for NDVI (Normalised Difference Vegetation Index) to identify stressed or low vitality trees. They are valuable for ash dieback surveys, identifying trees in distress, and conducting feasibility studies. Drones can also be used for creating 3D models of sites, providing better context than traditional maps. Leveraging social media, particularly platforms like TikTok, can help attract younger people to the industry. Authentic and engaging content that adds value is key. AI and apps have the potential to scan trees and identify defects, as well as generate detailed weather forecasts for the arboricultural industry. Immersive videos and virtual reality can be used to showcase different aspects of the industry and attract young talent.

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In this bonus episode of Tree Lady Talks, Sharon discusses the revision of the British standard for trees and construction, BS 5837. She interviews Howard Booth, the chair of the committee proposing the changes, to discuss the main updates. The changes include new process flow charts, a new categorization method, adjustments to root protection areas, and the inclusion of canopy cover assessments. The goal of these changes is to ensure better tree care and development practices. The episode provides valuable insights into the proposed revisions and their implications. The conversation explores various parameters and considerations for tree growth, including species, form, site conditions, and pruning requirements. The British standard for tree retention and the importance of tree surveys conducted by arboriculturalists are discussed. The conversation also touches on the proposed changes in the British standard for tree surveys (BS 5837) and the inclusion of canopy cover assessments. The revision introduces new plans, such as the Arboricultural Impact Plan and the Constraints and Opportunities Plan. The categorization of trees is expanded to include a new category for veteran trees (Category V). Root protection areas for veteran trees are set to increase, and dead trees will also have a level of protection. The consultation process for the revision is highlighted, encouraging listeners to participate and provide feedback.

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The conversation explores the complexities and challenges of implementing biodiversity net gain (BNG) in the UK. The discussion covers topics such as tree replacement, the definition of veteran trees, the role of arboriculturalists in BNG assessments, the emphasis on planting native trees, the mitigation of tree group losses, and the need for additional protection for habitats like peat soils. The conversation also touches on the importance of monitoring and compliance in ensuring the success of BNG projects.

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Dr. Mark Johnston, MBE, shares his life story and his journey in the field of urban forestry. From his childhood in London to his adventures as a tree surgeon and his work as a tree officer, he has witnessed the evolution of urban forestry. He emphasizes the importance of community engagement and the equal distribution of trees in urban areas. After working at Kew Gardens and teaching at Askham Bryan College, he eventually became the head of arboriculture at Merrist Wood College. In this conversation, Mark Johnston discusses his career in arboriculture and urban forestry. He shares his experiences working on various projects, including the Forest of London and the Community Forests Initiative. Mark also talks about the importance of higher education in arboriculture and the challenges he faced in promoting it. He emphasizes the need for a broader palette of tree species in urban areas and criticizes the focus on native species. Mark also discusses his involvement in organizing the Trees, People, and the Built Environment conferences and his passion for teaching and inspiring others in the field. His new book, 'Planting Ideas In The Urban Forest' is available here from his official website.

More books by Mark include:-
Trees in Towns II

 Trees, People and the Built Environment (2011)

Trees, People and the Built Environment II (2014)

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Kimberley gets to talk to both Sharon & Noel this time, about LIDAR and apples, but not at the same time! 
Kimberly Howard, a senior Arboricultural Consultant, discusses the use of new technology in arboriculture, specifically the use of LIDAR scanning to assess tree roots. She shares her experience working on a project to redevelop Grosvenor Square Gardens in London, where two mature London plane trees needed to be protected during construction. The use of LIDAR scanning allowed the project team to accurately locate and assess the size and distribution of the tree roots, ensuring that the foundations of the new buildings would not harm the trees. The information gathered from the LIDAR scanning was shared with the architects and engineers to inform the design of the building foundations and drainage systems. The project aims to create a world-class urban garden in Mayfair, London.

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In this exclusive interview Sharon is interviewed by her friend Luke Fay. They discuss how Sharon got into podcasting, her preparation process, and the challenges of remote interviews. They also talk about Sharon's use of social media, her superpower of idea generation, and her journey to becoming a tree expert and starting her own practice. In this conversation, Sharon discusses the need for the development industry to evolve with a focus on community and the environment. She emphasizes the importance of staying true to the purpose of creating something better and not getting caught up in processes. Sharon also highlights the need for better communication and understanding between different professions in the industry. She shares her experiences of dealing with crises and the importance of seeking help and support. Sharon reflects on the joys and frustrations of working in a business partnership with her husband. Lastly, she expresses her gratitude for the community she has fostered in the arboriculture profession and the privilege of helping others.

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Chris Baines is one of the UK’s leading independent environmentalists.  He trained as a horticulturalist at Wye College, Kent and then as a landscape architect in Birmingham.  He is an award-winning writer and broadcaster, presented what is considered to be the first environmental series for children on UK TV in the early 1980s and was one of the original presenters of BBC Countryfile.  His 2019 film documentary The Living Thames , made for the Thames Estuary Partnership, won the UK Charity Film Awards and has now won prizes at film festivals across 4 continents.  His best-selling book How to Make a Wildlife Garden has been continuously in print for almost 40 years and his book The Wild Side of Town won the first UK conservation book prize in 1987.

Chris is self-employed and acts as an adviser to industry and government.  He has worked widely with senior executives in the construction, energy, minerals, housebuilding and ethical investment industries and he currently chairs the Independent Stakeholder Advisory Group for National Grid and Ofgem.

Chris Baines is also an environmental campaigner with deep roots in the charitable sector and a long association with community-based environmental action.  He helped to establish the UK’s first urban wildlife trust, in the West Midlands, at the end of the 1970s. He was landscape adviser for the Government’s Priority Estates Project in the 1980s.  Through the 1990s he advised the Local Government Association, the Sainsbury Family Trusts, The Shell Better Britain Campaign and the New Homes Marketing Board on urban green infrastructure.  More recently he served as an adviser on sustainability for the Greenwich Millennium Dome, the London 2012 Olympics athletes’ village, and the World Heritage city of Bath.  

Chris has been a National Vice-President of the Royal Society of Wildlife Trusts since 1986.  He is currently an adviser to the National Trust, Hon President of the Thames Estuary Partnership, Hon Patron of the Countryside Management Association and he has been awarded lifetime-achievement medals from both the RSPB and the British Association of Nature Conservationists.  He has played a leading role in the fields of environmental education and nature recovery throughout his career.   He served as a Trustee of the National Lottery for six years and enjoys an international reputation as an environmental communicator and as a broker of cross-sectoral partnerships.  He has always worked from his home in the West Midlands. 

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